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I was lucky enough to see him drive it again a few years ago at Oultonfor the 50th anniversary of the win.
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Yeah, I was very much looking forward to seeing Stirling Moss at my local circuit, Pacific Raceways, Kent, Washington, USA, 1962. He was booked for the race, but then unfortunately suffered his career ending accident at Goodwood. We missed Stirling, but were entertained by Dan Gurney, Jo Bonnier, Masten Gregory, and I think Graham Hill, too. (edit: no, Hill appeared in 1963, when Pedro Rodriquez, Phil Hill and Lloyd Ruby were also headliners.)
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Yeah, I was very much looking forward to seeing Stirling Moss at my local circuit, Pacific Raceways, Kent, Washington, USA, 1962. He was booked for the race, but then unfortunately suffered his career ending accident at Goodwood. We missed Stirling, but were entertained by Dan Gurney, Jo Bonnier, Masten Gregory, and I think Graham Hill, too. (edit: no, Hill appeared in 1963, when Pedro Rodriquez, Phil Hill and Lloyd Ruby were also headliners.)
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There's been a trend of F1 drivers leaving for IndyCar/ChampCar/CART after the end of their F1 careers...but can you name three drivers who won an F1 race AFTER winning a IndyCar/ChampCar/CART/USAC National Championship race?
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Jim Clark won Indy in '65, and a number of F1 races after that. Graham Hill won Indy in '66, and of course was World Driving Champion in 1968.
Plus Andretti, Villeneuve, Mansell and Montoya makes six.
Supertrivia: Jimmy Murphy became a regular winner on US high banked wooden tracks in 1920. He won the French GP with a Duesenberg in 1921, and in 1922 won the Indy 500 in the same car.
Plus Andretti, Villeneuve, Mansell and Montoya makes six.
Supertrivia: Jimmy Murphy became a regular winner on US high banked wooden tracks in 1920. He won the French GP with a Duesenberg in 1921, and in 1922 won the Indy 500 in the same car.
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[begin Supertrivia]
Yes! The most notable that springs instantly to mind was the immortal 1913 Peugeot, whose engine became the basic architecture of virtually every modern racing engine - it was the first with double overhead camshafts (DOHC).
It won the Grand Prix of 1913 (there was only one, at the Picardie circuit) driven by Georges Boillot, and also the 1913 Indy 500 driven by Jules Goux.
Wilbur Shaw won (actually crushed) the Indy 500 two times (should have been three) with a fast, reliable and beautiful Maserati which had been developed in the boiling crucible of competition with Mercedes-Benz, Auto Union and Alfa Romeo. His '39 winner had been driven by G. Zehender in the '38 GP season.
Jack Brabham's revolution-starting 9th place Indy 500 Cooper-Climax of 1961 was almost identical to his championship winning 1960 Cooper-Climax.
Albero Ascari's 1952 Indy 500 Ferrari had seen earlier service in the 4.5/1.5sc era of Formula 1.
These are the few examples I can think of. There might well be a few more buried out there.
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Yes! The most notable that springs instantly to mind was the immortal 1913 Peugeot, whose engine became the basic architecture of virtually every modern racing engine - it was the first with double overhead camshafts (DOHC).
It won the Grand Prix of 1913 (there was only one, at the Picardie circuit) driven by Georges Boillot, and also the 1913 Indy 500 driven by Jules Goux.
Wilbur Shaw won (actually crushed) the Indy 500 two times (should have been three) with a fast, reliable and beautiful Maserati which had been developed in the boiling crucible of competition with Mercedes-Benz, Auto Union and Alfa Romeo. His '39 winner had been driven by G. Zehender in the '38 GP season.
Jack Brabham's revolution-starting 9th place Indy 500 Cooper-Climax of 1961 was almost identical to his championship winning 1960 Cooper-Climax.
Albero Ascari's 1952 Indy 500 Ferrari had seen earlier service in the 4.5/1.5sc era of Formula 1.
These are the few examples I can think of. There might well be a few more buried out there.
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Therefore, in terms of winning a European Grand Prix and a United States AAA event with the same car we have:
Jimmy Murphy in a Duesenberg; French GP 1921, Indy 500 1922
But the 1913 Peugeot car did do this unique double albeit with different drivers:
Georges Boillot won the 1913 Picardie GP and Jules Goux won the 1913 Indy 500
Correct?
Jimmy Murphy in a Duesenberg; French GP 1921, Indy 500 1922
But the 1913 Peugeot car did do this unique double albeit with different drivers:
Georges Boillot won the 1913 Picardie GP and Jules Goux won the 1913 Indy 500
Correct?
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Yes, correct to the best of my knowledge.
ATM I cannot verify that the 1913 case was accomplished with the exact same car. It was the same make, model, year and team, for sure. In 1913, the Peugeot had no real rival. It put an end to the super-displacement (14 liter!) cars that preceded it.
The 1914 Indy 500 was won by a Delage which competed in but did not win the 1914 GP of France.
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Yes! Peter Revson, of New York City, internationally known playboy and heir to the Revlon cosmetics industry, was a two-time GP winner for McLaren, and Can-Am champion for McLaren. In 1971 he took pole and 2nd place for McLaren at the Indy 500. My question was in error; he never won the Indy 500, though he was a winner in USAC Champ Car at Indianapolis Raceway Park. He was listed among the greatest Jews in sports. Tragically, he perished minutes after taking pole for the '74 South African GP.
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