nope on who and what...correct on German GP. Oliver's helmet is Brown.Who: Jackie Oliver
What: Lotus 48-Cosworth F2 (Jim Clark death car)
Where: Nurburgring
When: 1967 German Grand Prix,
Ickx, Matra-Ford.nope on who and what...correct on German GP. Oliver's helmet is Brown.
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WWWW my picture..I'll keep my pix and posts here rather than Classic thread as there are MANY of us who follow both.
As a hint here is another picture....same where and when.
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the driver of the bottom car as he was using a brand new Bell Starr he took delivery of on the race Friday.View attachment 645827
I can't speak for the BTCC but, the Australian Touring Car Championship allowed 100 octane Avgas prior to 1 August 1987. It smelled wonderful and was good.At the opening round of the 1989 BTC championship Murray Walker says, when talking about Gerrit van Kouwen's Sierra, "And Gerrit is running unleaded fuel, don't forget!"
Were pump-fuel motorsports still using leaded fuel as late as 1990? I can't say I remember when leaded fuel was phased out but I would have thought motorsports would have been quicker to switch to unleaded than production vehicles.
I can't speak for the BTCC but, the Australian Touring Car Championship allowed 100 octane Avgas prior to 1 August 1987. It smelled wonderful and was good.
From then on, they had to run 98 octane Unleaded.
It wasn't until around 2007/2008 that Supercars mandated cars had to run on an Ethanol blend.
Isn't avgas a type of aviation fuel? That's an interesting concoction to put in a car.
Is that a Kieft?Which manufacturer made this abandoned project for F1?
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Which manufacturer made this abandoned project for F1?
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It is the Moskvitch G3
Nurburgring has hosted the German, Luxembourg and European GP
And it was an F2 car as the F1 grid was so small they allowed their smaller brethren to make up their numbers. Some say that this drive that weekend got Ickx his Ferrari drive the next year.Which he held for seemingly forever.Ickx, Matra-Ford.
I'm interested to know if Ickx beat any of the F1 runners and, if the information is available, what his fastest lap time was compared to the F1 fastest lap.And it was an F2 car as the F1 grid was so small they allowed their smaller brethren to make up their numbers. Some say that this drive that weekend got Ickx his Ferrari drive the next year.Which he held for seemingly forever.
Formula Two would once again be invited to the Grand Prix of Germany, and the headlines were almost set by one of their contingent during qualifying.[1] Young Belgian racer Jacky Ickx set a stunning time with his Matra-Ford Cosworth to claim third on the grid, only just edged out by Denny Hulme in second.[1]Yet, both would be denied pole, and the headlines, by a stunning lap from Clark, with the Scot taking pole by almost ten second.[1]
Unfortunately, the chance to start on the front row would be denied to Ickx, who had to start at the back of the field with the rest of his F2 colleagues.[1] At the start it was Clark who went streaking into the lead, a stark contrast to teammate Graham Hill who was sent spinning on the run onto the Nordschleife.[1]
Ickx retired lap 12 with suspension failure, but not before rising to 4th overall. His fastest lap was 8:21.8. Fastest F1 lap was Gurney (Eagle) 8:15.1.I'm interested to know if Ickx beat any of the F1 runners and, if the information is available, what his fastest lap time was compared to the F1 fastest lap.
Tomorrow is Carb (Carburetion) Day at Indy.
When is the last time the winning car had a carburetor?
That is a pretty good guess. My own knowledge is not exact, but the early fifties is indeed the time period it happened.50s?
I know the Nordschleife (especially the old pre-'70 version) wasn't known for a lot of 100% throttle & more for handling but, I can imagine the embarrassment of being in an F1 with a flying F2 in front of youIckx retired lap 12 with suspension failure, but not before rising to 4th overall. His fastest lap was 8:21.8. Fastest F1 lap was Gurney (Eagle) 8:15.1.
The car in question was the Matra MS-7. And in order to compete it was forced to ADD weight to comply with F1 regs. It was raced by Matra in in F1 in 67/68/69 on various occasions by Jean-Pierre Beltoise and Johnny Servoz-Gavin. The Ickx entry in 67 at the ring was a Ken Tyrrell entry. Rember Tyrrell and Matra entered F1 the following year with the MS9 (at South Africa, and then the MS-10 for the remainder of the year, with Sir Jackie driving, with Cosworth DFVs in the back). It was instantaneously competitive with anything on the track. The Ms7's surfaced at the German GP every year through 69 because they were nimble as hell. They were NOT eligible for world championship points .I know the Nordschleife (especially the old pre-'70 version) wasn't known for a lot of 100% throttle & more for handling but, I can imagine the embarrassment of being in an F1 with a flying F2 in front of you
No doubt Ickx announced to everyone there that he was the real deal.
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When you consider the F2 of the era were 1.6 producing around 220bhp, I'm surprised they had to add weight to race the more powerful 3.0 litre F1.The car in question was the Matra MS-7. And in order to compete it was forced to ADD weight to comply with F1 regs. It was raced by Matra in in F1 in 67/68/69 on various occasions by Jean-Pierre Beltoise and Johnny Servoz-Gavin. The Ickx entry in 67 at the ring was a Ken Tyrrell entry. Rember Tyrrell and Matra entered F1 the following year with the MS9 (at South Africa, and then the MS-10 for the remainder of the year, with Sir Jackie driving, with Cosworth DFVs in the back). It was instantaneously competitive with anything on the track. The Ms7's surfaced at the German GP every year through 69 because they were nimble as hell. They were NOT eligible for world championship points .
Over the years it DOMINATED F2, and in F1 it sprouted wings just like the rest. I was in the grand stand at the 90 at the Glen in 67 and still remember the little screaming Matra driven by JP Beltoise.
The MS9 was driven only at South African GP and to my knowledge was the only time a Tyrrell was driven in other than blue from 68 on.
MATRA MS7 Cosworth FVA
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MATRA MS9 Cosworth DFV South Africa 68
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MATRA MS10 Cosworth DFV and right MATRA MS 11 Matra V-12 the most astounding sounding F1 car.....ever.View attachment 649519