Motorsports Trivia Thread!

[GTP_Nail]

The AC Cobra Coupe A98. Raced at LeMans, 1964, by Bolton and Sears.

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Has there ever been a six wheel race car with this setup?

4WD with two axles in front but the front most axle is just for steering. This way you have four tires controlling the power and another two to simply steer it.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

Close, but it needs the two axles in front and one in the rear.

 

[GTP_Nail]

Patrick Depallier Monaco

Close, but it needs the two axles in front and one in the rear.

Tyrrell P34. Won one GP and fared very well but was legislated out of F1 (you know the place where they revel in technology...actually its all about MONEY)

 

[Dotini]

Le Mans trivia question in 2 parts:

1) Identify (car, drivers, year) the first closed body coupe to win the 24 hour race at Le Mans.

2) Identify (car, drivers, year) the first closed body coupe to hold a commanding lead at Le Mans.

- extra credit for photos -

Not sure, but I'd guess it was a Kamm car?

If by Kamm, you mean cut-off back like the Ferrari breadvan, then no.

But if you mean vaguely 1930's aerodynamics, then yes.


250 GT SWB "Breadvan"

 

[Liquid]

Tyrrell P34. Won one GP and fared very well but was legislated out of F1 (you know the place where they revel in technology...actually its all about MONEY)

Was it legislated out? From what I remember the project was cancelled when Goodyear refused to manufacture any more of the smaller front tyres.

Williams was dabbling with a 6-wheeled F1 car in the early 80s As you can see, this time all tyres are the same size so Goodyear's excuse to not want to manufacture the small front tyres isn't a factor so it might not have been explicitly prohibited until the Concorde Agreement in 1983.

Alan Jones, Donington Park (1982)

 

[Clark]

There was the March 2-4-0 as well.

 

[Dotini]

I recall seeng a concept drawing produced by BRM for a futuristic gas turbine F1 car driving, by hydraulics, all 12 wheels. Another one of those nightmares from BRM, but which happily never eventuated.

 

[Pete05]

Was it legislated out? From what I remember the project was cancelled when Goodyear refused to manufacture any more of the smaller front tyres.

Williams was dabbling with a 6-wheeled F1 car in the early 80s As you can see, this time all tyres are the same size so Goodyear's excuse to not want to manufacture the small front tyres isn't a factor so it might not have been explicitly prohibited until the Concorde Agreement in 1983.

Alan Jones, Donington Park (1982)

Thanks @Liquid

I had no idea AJ drove the Williams 6-wheeler.

 

[daan]

Has there ever been a six wheel race car with this setup?

4WD with two axles in front but the front most axle is just for steering. This way you have four tires controlling the power and another two to simply steer it.

There has never been an F1 car with that setup. The P34 is closest, but it only had 2 wheel drive with the rear wheels. The fronts were all only for steering.

 

[Dotini]

CONVINI C6W SPIDER




Kamaz Typhoon

 

[TenEightyOne]

If by Kamm, you mean cut-off back like the Ferrari breadvan, then no.

But if you mean vaguely 1930's aerodynamics, then yes.


250 GT SWB "Breadvan"

Not sure that's Kamm-stylee, normally the tail has to taper to about 50% of the car's greatest width before being chopped. It's also a little late: some research shows a Mercedes closed-body winning 24h de Le Mans in 1952 with the W194, so not a Kamm-car, but interestingly a Kamm closed-body raced that year... came 4th

 

[Dotini]

Not sure that's Kamm-stylee, normally the tail has to taper to about 50% of the car's greatest width before being chopped. It's also a little late: some research shows a Mercedes closed-body winning 24h de Le Mans in 1952 with the W194, so not a Kamm-car, but interestingly a Kamm closed-body raced that year... came 4th

W194


Congratulations. You've correctly answered part 1 of my Le Mans trivia question. Now, for part 2, any ideas for which coupe first convincingly led the famous 24 hour race?

 

[TenEightyOne]

W194


Congratulations. You've correctly answered part 1 of my Le Mans trivia question. Now, for part 2, any ideas for which coupe first convincingly led the famous 24 hour race?

Sommer, 1950, Ferrari 195S?

 

[Dotini]

Sommer, 1950, Ferrari 195S?

Superlative guess, Sommer did convincingly lead in the Ferrari coupe. But he was by no means the first to do so. Please keep digging.


The 1950 Ferrari 195S

 

[GTP_Nail]

Now...new rules...optional of course... Dotini may not respond to trivia for 24 hours as he is the Watson of motor racing

 

[TenEightyOne]

Superlative guess, Sommer did convincingly lead in the Ferrari coupe. But he was by no means the first to do so. Please keep digging.

Adler Super Trumpf, wearing a swastika, 1937?

 

[Dotini]

Adler Super Trumpf, wearing a swastika, 1937?

No magnum of Chateau Laffitte 1889 for you!

 

[TenEightyOne]

No magnum of Chateau Laffitte 1889 for you!

Mince. I'm close to giving up

 

[Dotini]

Mince. I'm close to giving up

Behold the Alfa Romeo 1938 8C 2900B Le Mans Speciale. Evolved from the 20's by Vittorio Jano, the twin supercharged 8C family became the definitive sports and racing cars of the 30's which were sometimes available to the public, winning from the Mille Miglia to Spa to Nurburgring to Le Mans. Depending on tune and displacement, these cars had anywhere from 220 to 330 hp, and set lap times and distance records that would have been respectable well into the fifties.

From Wikipedia:
Alfa Corse prepared and entered a single 8C 2900B 1938 Le Mans. The car featured a streamlined coupé body at a time when Le Mans racers were almost always open cars. The aerodynamic coupé was built by Carrozzeria Touring. In 1987, an Italian magazine had the car tested at the Pininfarina wind tunnel, where a Cx of 0.42 was measured, down to 0.38 with air intakes closed. The coupé, driven by Sommer and Biondetti, led for most of the race, but tire trouble was then followed by a dropped valve. The car was driven to the pits, but had to retire there. At the time the valve dropped, the coupé had a lead of more than 160 km over the next car.

 

[GTP_Nail]

How many MAJOR American road courses have closed since 1960. AND...what are they.

 

[TenEightyOne]

How many MAJOR American road courses have closed since 1960. AND...what are they.

Define "MAJOR" to avoid subjective arguments?

 

[Pete05]

Define "MAJOR" to avoid subjective arguments?

I know Riverside for sure & without consulting professor Google, maybe the original Watkins Glen road course?

Other than those two, I'd need to see the cheat sheet

 

[GTP_Nail]

ok any road course, but not modifications like the Glen. Im actually looking for LOST tracks that I don't know about or closed before my racing introduction in 66 or that I never knew about.

 

[TheCracker]

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Bonus points for pointing out that the shot was taken outside the Thames Ditton factory?

 

[Ryk]

ok any road course, but not modifications like the Glen. Im actually looking for LOST tracks that I don't know about or closed before my racing introduction in 66 or that I never knew about.

Watkins Glen was a 6.6 mile road course at the end of the 40's that didn't somuch get modified but moved location...

 

[Pete05]

Watkins Glen was a 6.6 mile road course at the end of the 40's that didn't somuch get modified but moved location...

I mentioned the Glen above & have seen maps of the layout but, I've never seen this video so thanks for posting & sharing 👍

 

[GTP_Nail]

WWWW. Hint:The picture might have been taken from my front row seat....and Im not sure it wasn't and stolen. Oh well. Some great pictures came from this spot. And, you only needed a couple hundred bucks then for a three day reserved seat.

 

[GTP_Nail]

Race tracks... an obvious one is Bridgehampton. What was the track near dallas... I raced there in a bugeye in 75ish and for the life of me can't remember its name.There might have been a Trans Am race there.

 

[Pete05]

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WWWW. Hint:The picture might have been taken from my front row seat....and Im not sure it wasn't and stolen. Oh well. Some great pictures came from this spot. And, you only needed a couple hundred bucks then for a three day reserved seat.

That's got to be Damon Hill in a Brabham-(Yamaha?) BT60(Y?)
I couldn't tell you where without guessing. Silverstone maybe?
1992 pre-season testing?

 

[TenEightyOne]

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WWWW. Hint:The picture might have been taken from my front row seat....and Im not sure it wasn't and stolen. Oh well. Some great pictures came from this spot. And, you only needed a couple hundred bucks then for a three day reserved seat.

Damon Hill, F1 car so it must be the Brabham-Judd (Motor Racing Developments as noted by @Pete05, but pre-season testing was at Silverstone and that isn't Silverstone. Kyalami?