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Brown is right trobes. When Football, Jeff, Me or anyone else can't make a race you race without us. How is you missing a race any different than any of us missing a race?
 
JACKOLANTERN1
Brown is right trobes. When Football, Jeff, Me or anyone else can't make a race you race without us. How is you missing a race any different than any of us missing a race?
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Like I've said before, it IS different than if one on you guys miss the race, because you are just drivers, I am the race director. I don't have enough trust in anyone to run this race without me. If everyone has such a hard time making it sunday then we'll race next week. Everyone needs to just shut up about this and move on.
 
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All I want is a good explanation, not that I insult you, that was once. I don't do it to anyone else. And arguing, I say what should be said. The real reason is because I'm questioning your authority as a leader. Many people see me in the right, as well I do myself. I'm not done yet.
 
Cole Brown
All I want is a good explanation, not that I insult you, that was once. I don't do it to anyone else. And arguing, I say what should be said. The real reason is because I'm questioning your authority as a leader. Many people see me in the right, as well I do myself. I'm not done yet.
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You've caused trouble all season, and then act like you're the leader of the league, you're banned. end of story.
 
JACKOLANTERN1
There are PLENTY of responsible people in the league. You just don't want to miss a race so you can keep first in the standings. :banghead:
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No, thats not it, I literally don't have enough trust in anyone to host it without me, you can believe what you want to believe, but it isn't true.
 
Okay guys I know I am just the Safety Car driver and I really have no business in politics but:
  • Trobes, sometimes when you have multiple people breathing down your neck about things they think you're doing wrong or in a bias manner, it's time to take a third person perspective and look at it from all angles. For one, I don't think pushing back a race solely for the reason of you not being able to make it is quite bias in the sense of you are after all, a competing driver in this league. If you can't commit to the dates and times you set at the beginning maybe you should find a race official who can.
  • Brown, and others. This is after all and everything, Trobes' league. If you have such a big problem with the way he runs his series then maybe you shouldn't race in it. There's a difference between voicing your displeasures and taking your said grievances and making unofficial and illegal backroom solutions. Don't like the setup of this league, don't race.
Sorry if I'm being too intrusive in this matter but this is my view on it all.
 
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redbullrider20
Okay guys I know I am just the Safety Car driver and I really have no business in politics but:
  • Trobes, sometimes when you have multiple people breathing down your neck about things they think you're doing wrong or in a bias manner, it's time to take a third person perspective and look at it from all angles. For one, I don't think pushing back a race solely for the reason of you not being able to make it is quite bias in the sense of you are after all, a competing driver in this league. If you can't commit to the dates and times you set at the beginning maybe you should find a race official who can.
  • Brown, and others. This is after all and everything, Trobes' league. If you have such a big problem with the way he runs his series then maybe you shouldn't race in it. There's a difference between voicing your displeasures and taking your said grievances and making unofficial and illegal backroom solutions. Don't like the setup of this league, don't race.
Sorry if I'm being too intrusive in this matter but this is my view on it all.
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We were actually talking about such a thing, since I'm "banned"
 
redbullrider20
Okay guys I know I am just the Safety Car driver and I really have no business in politics but:
  • Trobes, sometimes when you have multiple people breathing down your neck about things they think you're doing wrong or in a bias manner, it's time to take a third person perspective and look at it from all angles. For one, I don't think pushing back a race solely for the reason of you not being able to make it is quite bias in the sense of you are after all, a competing driver in this league. If you can't commit to the dates and times you set at the beginning maybe you should find a race official who can.
  • Brown, and others. This is after all and everything, Trobes' league. If you have such a big problem with the way he runs his series then maybe you shouldn't race in it. There's a difference between voicing your displeasures and taking your said grievances and making unofficial and illegal backroom solutions. Don't like the setup of this league, don't race.
Sorry if I'm being too intrusive in this matter but this is my view on it all.
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Not being intrusive either, everyone in this league should have a say. Not one person.
 
redbullrider20
Okay guys I know I am just the Safety Car driver and I really have no business in politics but:
  • Trobes, sometimes when you have multiple people breathing down your neck about things they think you're doing wrong or in a bias manner, it's time to take a third person perspective and look at it from all angles. For one, I don't think pushing back a race solely for the reason of you not being able to make it is quite bias in the sense of you are after all, a competing driver in this league. If you can't commit to the dates and times you set at the beginning maybe you should find a race official who can.
  • Brown, and others. This is after all and everything, Trobes' league. If you have such a big problem with the way he runs his series then maybe you shouldn't race in it. There's a difference between voicing your displeasures and taking your said grievances and making unofficial and illegal backroom solutions. Don't like the setup of this league, don't race.
Sorry if I'm being too intrusive in this matter but this is my view on it all.
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I understand this, and you're correct. But I can't think of anyone I trust to host while I'm gone except for Peel, and he always has mic issues. More than likely the race will be Saturday because I might leave Camp early. But I still stand by what I said, and that is that Brown is banned, now if we can just stop this argument and move on that'd be great.
 
redbullrider20
Okay guys I know I am just the Safety Car driver and I really have no business in politics but:
  • Trobes, sometimes when you have multiple people breathing down your neck about things they think you're doing wrong or in a bias manner, it's time to take a third person perspective and look at it from all angles. For one, I don't think pushing back a race solely for the reason of you not being able to make it is quite bias in the sense of you are after all, a competing driver in this league. If you can't commit to the dates and times you set at the beginning maybe you should find a race official who can.
  • Brown, and others. This is after all and everything, Trobes' league. If you have such a big problem with the way he runs his series then maybe you shouldn't race in it. There's a difference between voicing your displeasures and taking your said grievances and making unofficial and illegal backroom solutions. Don't like the setup of this league, don't race.
Sorry if I'm being too intrusive in this matter but this is my view on it all.
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Red Bull, do you think it is appropriate to ban me for what's going on?
 
redbullrider20
Okay guys I know I am just the Safety Car driver and I really have no business in politics but:
  • Trobes, sometimes when you have multiple people breathing down your neck about things they think you're doing wrong or in a bias manner, it's time to take a third person perspective and look at it from all angles. For one, I don't think pushing back a race solely for the reason of you not being able to make it is quite bias in the sense of you are after all, a competing driver in this league. If you can't commit to the dates and times you set at the beginning maybe you should find a race official who can.
  • Brown, and others. This is after all and everything, Trobes' league. If you have such a big problem with the way he runs his series then maybe you shouldn't race in it. There's a difference between voicing your displeasures and taking your said grievances and making unofficial and illegal backroom solutions. Don't like the setup of this league, don't race.
Sorry if I'm being too intrusive in this matter but this is my view on it all.
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I don't thing we've made any "unofficial" or "illegal" backroom solutions. In my opinion, we've been very reasonable in asking for a change in the way things are being run. When you have almost everyone in the league questioning a decision, you need to stop and take a good look at the situation.
 
JACKOLANTERN1
I don't thing we've made any "unofficial" or "illegal" backroom solutions. In my opinion, we've been very reasonable in asking for a change in the way things are being run. When you have almost everyone in the league questioning a decision, you need to stop and take a good look at the situation.
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Not to mention, it was Alan's idea for voting, who was siding with racing on Sunday with trobes. I just took it, and ran with it. This isn't a dictatorship. Its a democracy and should be run as such.
 
JACKOLANTERN1
I don't thing we've made any "unofficial" or "illegal" backroom solutions. In my opinion, we've been very reasonable in asking for a change in the way things are being run. When you have almost everyone in the league questioning a decision, you need to stop and take a good look at the situation.
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The way Brown has been saying it was that you guys were gonna race Fri or Sat regardless of what I say, and I'd consider that an illegal change. If you guys said otherwise, and Brown made it sound worst than it really is, then please tell me.
 
Yea,
trobes29
The way Brown has been saying it was that you guys were gonna race Fri or Sat regardless of what I say, and I'd consider that an illegal change. If you guys said otherwise, and Brown made it sound worst than it really is, then please tell me.
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I was saying that last night. And it wouldn't have been illegal if more than half of the field could race on either day. I may have over reacted a tad. But that's no reason to ban me.
 
Cole Brown
Yea,

I was saying that last night. And it wouldn't have been illegal if more than half of the field could race on either day. I may have over reacted a tad. But that's no reason to ban me.
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You should of been banned after your comments at Route X and Red Bull Ring. I don't care what anyone tries to do to convince me, you're banned. If you hate this league so much why are you trying to stay in it anyway?
 
trobes29
You should of been banned after your comments at Route X and Red Bull Ring. I don't care what anyone tries to do to convince me, you're banned. If you hate this league so much why are you trying to stay in it anyway?
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Because I like the people. I don't hate it either, I just believe it could be run better, and you could run it better. If you wanted to.
 
Can you remind me of what my comments were at red bull ring? I REMEBER calling it garbage at route x. But red bull ring? I said it was stupid that you were going to call the race. Yup. That's ground for my banning right there.
 
Cole Brown
Can you remind me of what my comments were at red bull ring? I REMEBER calling it garbage at route x. But red bull ring? I said it was stupid that you were going to call the race. Yup. That's ground for my banning right there.
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For rain*
 
My personal opinion is that we should race at majorities pleasure. I get that this is trobes's league, but I feel like as a commissioner it should be your duty to look at what is best for your racers. I don't really have a problem with the change to Sunday. I have a problem with the sudden change. I feel like you knew about going on a vacation for a couple weeks and that's when the notification of the change should have come.(Idk I could be wrong about that). It's hard to get everyone to race together and changing the date a couple days ahead doesn't help.
 
I really don't care who is running what at what time. I just want to run a few races before I go away for college.
 

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