NASCAR (Stock cars, Craftsman trucks, etc.) in GT5?

[Spec M]

If it wont work: http://youtube.com/watch?v=UJEJL-3d4UQ

I find these hilarious! They were in Toca 3 but they weren't as fun to drive as they look

I'd pick a NASCAR type stock car over any other type of circle track car (besides Indy). I just can't do outlaws or dirt ovals.

 

[SUPER NUMBBER]

What made GT successful in the first place and what GT stands for today aren't the same thing, throwing that argument out the window; and regardless of which adding stock cars wouldn't have changed it anyways.

You can't invalidate an argument at will with no reason.

I never said that GT has adhered strictly to the same formula on every game. That doesn't make it right, either. GT2 had a stock car body work on it; neither of the 2 sequels that followed had one...very telling. Wonder why?

 

[Jim Prower]

You can't invalidate an argument at will with no reason.

I never said that GT has adhered strictly to the same formula on every game. That doesn't make it right, either. GT2 had a stock car body work on it; neither of the 2 sequels that followed had one...very telling. Wonder why?

Three reasons, in order of importance.

1: Racing Modifications dissappeared. In fact, most of those race cars that were racing mods of normal cars (the Taisan ADVAN AE86, all those Group A R32 GT-Rs, all the BTCC cars, etc) haven't shown up either. to include them would double the amount of cars in the game.
2: NASCAR Licensing. The original Taurus racing mod was Mark Martin's Roush Ford: this was changed to a generic scheme after EA got up all in arms about it.
3: This is a minor point, but the car drove more like the BTCC Mondeo when fully modified than a NASCAR stock car. It had headlights and taillights, for Pete's sake! I loved using it in the Super Touring Cup race for that reason, but it still wasn't "right" for a stock car.

If you think it'll kill the game to have oval-track races, don't buy it, quit wasting my time.

 

[Earth]

A typical openwheel fan's knowledge of NASCAR

 

[SUPER NUMBBER]

Three reasons, in order of importance.

1: Racing Modifications dissappeared. In fact, most of those race cars that were racing mods of normal cars (the Taisan ADVAN AE86, all those Group A R32 GT-Rs, all the BTCC cars, etc) haven't shown up either. to include them would double the amount of cars in the game.
2: NASCAR Licensing. The original Taurus racing mod was Mark Martin's Roush Ford: this was changed to a generic scheme after EA got up all in arms about it.
3: This is a minor point, but the car drove more like the BTCC Mondeo when fully modified than a NASCAR stock car. It had headlights and taillights, for Pete's sake! I loved using it in the Super Touring Cup race for that reason, but it still wasn't "right" for a stock car.

If you think it'll kill the game to have oval-track races, don't buy it, quit wasting my time.

Please don't tell me to stop wasting your time for posting my opinion as a veteran GT player in a VIDEOGAME FORUM. The real waste of time here is trying to change GT into something that it's not meant to be, when you could much easier stop by a game shop and buy a licensed NASCAR game!

1. Most of those racing mods came back in the for of individual vehicles. The Calsonic racing mod came back in the form of a prize car (as well as others), but not the "NASCAR" Taurus.
2. If the licensing really is an issue, then what's the point of this thread anyways?
3. So I guess we can say there never was a NASCAR car in GT?

 

[Perfect Balance]

A typical openwheel fan's knowledge of NASCAR

Woot!

 

[Jim Prower]

1. Most of those racing mods came back in the for of individual vehicles. The Calsonic racing mod came back in the form of a prize car (as well as others), but not the "NASCAR" Taurus.

I'm just gonna give up otherwise and address this:

as that's really the only example that I can think of that made the transition from Racing Modification to GT4. There's no BTCC Mondeo, No PUMA GTO, No racing AE86 whatsoever...

If you can find ten Racing Modifications...and I mean racing mods, not LM edtitions, racers, or street cars...that jumped the gap between GT2 and GT4 unchanged, I might just go ahead and shut up.

 

[Picc84]

I don't really like the idea due to this being more of a road track type game... With the introduceing of Daytona superspeed way this does give us a hint or too, and a turn in the gut about this subject, but I belive that GT will stay true to its road type race form...

 

[Spec M]

A typical openwheel fan's knowledge of NASCAR

That sounds like 100% assumption. Whats your point?

 

[Earth]

For those who say the majority of NASCAR fans are stupid single toothed beer guzzling rednecks from the south, then why does this map of the location of all NASCAR tracks say otherwise? Or are there beer guzzling rednecks everywhere?

 

[Perfect Balance]

For those who say the majority of NASCAR fans are stupid single toothed beer guzzling rednecks from the south, then why does this map of the location of all NASCAR tracks say otherwise? Or are there beer guzzling rednecks everywhere?

Majority: 1.the greater part or number; the number larger than half the total (opposed to minority): the majority of the population.



Yes though, they are everywhere.

 

[nissan tuner]

Fail

 

[Perfect Balance]

I don't see how Texas or Florida isn't "south"

EDIT: Or Arizona.

EDIT #2: It's not one of the "southern" states that were part of the confederacy, but you know what I mean.

 

[Loon]

I don't see how Texas or Florida isn't "south"

EDIT: Or Arizona.

Too far West for Texas and Arizona, and Florida is soo full of yanks and illegals that the state doesn't quite seem like the South.

 

[nissan tuner]

Too far West for Texas and Arizona, and Florida is soo full of yanks and illegals that the state doesn't quite seem like the South.

plus the "rednecks" in Florida is an endangered species

 

[Perfect Balance]

Too far West for Texas and Arizona, and Florida is soo full of yanks and illegals that the state doesn't quite seem like the South.

And the east coast is a bit far east don't you think?


South is the bottom half of the U.S., and North is the top half of the U.S.



EDIT: The point is that most NASCAR tracks are not in the Northern half of the U.S.

California doesn't have too much "rednecks" either.

EDIT #2: We really shouldn't continue this much longer, Pupik already gave us a warning.

 

[nissan tuner]

And the east coast is a bit far east don't you think?


South is the bottom half of the U.S., and North is the top half of the U.S.

oh god..

 

[Perfect Balance]

oh god..

I'm sorry that the Civil War didn't change my sense of direction.

Given 2 choices of up or down, North or South, I'd have to put my money on Arizona being in the South.

 

[nissan tuner]

 

[Perfect Balance]

I guess Florida is east then, even though there are other states even further east than Florida, like North Carolina, but NC is south?

Wait, Texas stretches further south than any of those, yet it's not southern? What a surprise! My entire life I thought south was further down on the map.

The things word of mouth can do.

 

[Spec M]

Seems Earth keeps fueling this argument of rednecks and F1 vs. NASCAR, but I could have sworn we were done with that pointless, and senseless subject and got back on to the main topic (NASCAR/Circle track racing). Thanks, another pointless arguement up in running.

nissan tuner thanks for bringing facts to the table and letting everyone know that AZ is not a southern state. I believe we call it the 'West Coast'. And I believe Texas has been called the 'South West' since the begining of time.

 

[Pupik]

I thought this was about including NASCAR/stock-cars in GT5. It turned into a pointless geographic debate.

Y'all epic fail.