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NASCAR (Stock cars, Craftsman trucks, etc.) in GT5?
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Would you drive an oval-spec car in Grand Valley?
high speed ring and Fuji speedway GT
Craftman Truck
nice 👍
how outrageous for anyone to ask for a new specification of racecar
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Would you drive an oval-spec car in Grand Valley?
Nah.., I'll stick with my C5R or BMW MCLAREN F1 perhaps.
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Then WHY make the statement if you can't prove it? Have you not caught on to this yet?
So, you know 2,000 of these people personally? That's very hard to believe, but doesn't matter. Like this site, 2,000 people do not account for million others. There's a reason why a person is called an individual.
But you're not giving them a chance to do so. You're hiding behind a computer screen bashing them for this without even knowing 1 of them.
Again, doesn't account for everyone.
Seriously, I'm not going to discuss this. Your whole argument is based upon a stereotype, and I'm not going to debate with someone who puts down a selection of people just because of some folks he knows.
Continue the discussion when you have factual evidence. I'm sick of your assumptions. It can't serve as actual proof.
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Nah, it's not like getting away from the original formula ever hurt a franchise...right? 'Sup EA! How's NFS doing?
That's why they have different game titles for each of those types of racing. They could do a better job than PD ever could trying to fit every single form of motorsport into one disc.
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Since when NASCAR is the part of Grand Touring racing? Just curious.
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Well it is not! But GT never only had true Gran Tourisme cars.
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I'll apologize for being a bit boisterous with you, but you're taking this way out of hand.
I don't think we'll see less than three wheels on any car in GT (Daihatsu Midget), and we won't see air racing in anything except Microsoft Flight Simulator. Truck racing (As in European Supertrucks) could be interesting, I think, although Lawnmowers...are a bit too difficult to implement...and Karts could easily replace and be better than those.
However, I Don't think your "Jack of all Trades" comment is justified, especially when other games - Race Driver, anyone? - can be just as diverse as what you're saying. GT's already on it's way to that, anyway: rallying, Formula cars, sports prototypes, GT cars, Drifting, production vehicles from supercars to Kei cars...pickup trucks...all eras and classes. I see no reason why a couple tube frame vehicles from America cannot be implemented, aside from the fact that sports car and formula fans see the series as their "enemy." I also think there's political reasons, but I'm not gonna go there.
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Then I have to vote no on this one. A real Grand Touring car has to be from the SPEED World Challenge, the Super GT and the DTM.
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do i really have to name every other race car in the GT franchise thats not a grand tourer?
(including the stockcar that was in GT2)
gran tourismo: its alot more than just touring cars
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Since when was Gran Turismo ever only about Grand Touring?
I say why not. Codemasters did it pretty well in unlicenced form (though I would prefer if PD would instead just get a lower form of it), and there are plenty of opportunities for it to be done. Furthermore, its not like adding it will hurt the overall quality of the game (which is hilariously what a large majority of those against it seem to come off as), and it may very well bring in more people to the series (which is arguably a good thing).
That being said, I would rather have PD focus on more important things than adding cars, so GT5 doesn't end up being like GT4 and GT2 were. If they have time, than I can see nothing wrong with it (because there isn't anything wrong with it to anyone but narrow-minded people); but if they don't, they shouldn't worry about it now.
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Yes, I see your point. Gran Turismo is not only just grand touring cars, but there are rally cars and F1s as well. In reality, NASCAR is never part of grand touring racing. I voted no earlier, so there might be an impossibility for NASCAR on GT5. GT2 has one stock car made for the Taurus, but we'll see if Yamauchi-sama has to say about having stock cars in Gran Turismo 5.
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Daytona is in, Twin Ring Motegi oval probably will be in too.
So that's a 2.5 mile track and a 1.5 mile track.
I would like to see a short track in there as well.
That would give stock cars in GT5 5 tracks that they would feel at home on
1. Daytona
2. Twin Ring Motegi
3. High Speed Ring
4. High Speed Ring Reverse
5. A short track oval
And a quick point, driving stock cars on roadcourses is fun, 800 horsepower, low grip tires, little aero grip, and a big heavy car.
Here are some examples of a couple of good short tracks.
Bristol .5 mile high banked oval
Martinsville .5 mile flat oval
So that's a 2.5 mile track and a 1.5 mile track.
I would like to see a short track in there as well.
That would give stock cars in GT5 5 tracks that they would feel at home on
1. Daytona
2. Twin Ring Motegi
3. High Speed Ring
4. High Speed Ring Reverse
5. A short track oval
And a quick point, driving stock cars on roadcourses is fun, 800 horsepower, low grip tires, little aero grip, and a big heavy car.
Here are some examples of a couple of good short tracks.
Bristol .5 mile high banked oval
Martinsville .5 mile flat oval
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I think actually being at a NASCAR or oval track event maybe more intense as oppose to a road racing event. With the oval tracks you pretty much can see everything thats going on throuhout the entire race. This is one of the reason why I think NASCAR is a popular spectator event. I have gone to Belle Isle for the Detroit Grand Prix when I was alot younger and I recall hearing the cars more than I could see them. But watching each type of event on television is a completely different experience for me. Though I might be more passionate about road racing, but each F1 race is equivalent to the Super Bowl to me. Its hard for me to sit through an entire NASCAR broadcast and I guess the crashes would be the high light for me, I would like to got to a race one day though.
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the sheer amount of ignorance on the anti nascar side is amazing (note: i didn't say its ignorant to dislike it)
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(note: i didn't say its ignorant to dislike it)
It's easy to understand them,
ignorance breeds hate
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Hey, I've already seen every form of racing suggested in this forum with the "It's racing, so it should be in GT" pass. It's the same here, with no regards to logic and to what made GT successful in the first place.
And I find it funny that you should compare GT to Race Driver - a great game, btw, but if you're gonna argue that adding more race series is gonna help GT, at least use a game that's had more success than GT while doing this. Call it what you wish, politics, whatever, but if you alienate the people who made GT the most successful racing franchise by inserting NASCAR, then you've got nothing.
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I've noticed the opposite to (also) be true outside of the internet.
(note: i didn't say its ignorant to dislike it)
I think we both agree that stupid people suck though.
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What made GT successful in the first place and what GT stands for today aren't the same thing, throwing that argument out the window; and regardless of which adding stock cars wouldn't have changed it anyways.
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How many people are actually not going to buy GT5 if it includes 4 NASCAR stock cars (Chevy Impala SS, Ford Fusion, Dodge Charger, and Toyota Camry)? I'd be more worried about the fact that PD forced people race the 12 HP Daihatsu Midget in GT4!
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How many people are actually not going to buy GT5 if it includes 4 NASCAR stock cars (Chevy Impala SS, Ford Fusion, Dodge Charge, and Toyota Camry)? I'd be more worried about the fact that PD forced people race the 12 HP Daihatsu Midget in GT4!
They already force us to drive bloody rally cars. That one's been bugging me since they started that - the reason I've never bought any of the colin mcrae series is that I have no interest in powersliding through mud! There were a hell of a lot of those damned oval challenges in GT4 where the challenge for me was to stay awake for however many laps it took to win. I'm pretty sure the inclusion of nascar would mean even more oval challenges. I personally don't care if they include the cars, even the tracks but it does bug me that I have to drive the damn things round and round in circles to finish the game.
If you like nascar then good luck to you - I'd never dream of saying you don't have that right but spare a thought for those who don't. Some of us genuinely dislike it and don't really feel the urge to be 'converted'
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(note: i didn't say its ignorant to dislike it)
What makes them ignorant?
I've seen plenty of ignorance in the last couple days that have nothing to do with NASCAR.
I've also seen people call others stupid then make complete fools of themselves.
But, I take into account that people tend to say a lot more when they're not in the physical presence of others, which displays their character and tells me alot about what type of person they maybe.
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The post we were referring to has disappeared mysteriously.
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I'm the same way so I'll finish the game no matter what PD includes. I don't even like 2 wheel racing but I still purchased Tourist Trophy..
I'd even finish the game if PD included some real redneck** racing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpF2tZsj6lM
Here's hoping that NOTHING with 4 legs is included in the game
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