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Like I said, they are going to let them show emotions on the track, not try to kill each other.
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Probation for Edwards, next three races.
http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/headlines/cup/03/09/cedwards.probation.bkeselowski/index.html
http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/headlines/cup/03/09/cedwards.probation.bkeselowski/index.html
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Are you kidding me?
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A one season ban is the minimum he would have got if it was up to me.
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He should have been suspended for at least 1 race and lost some drivers points. I can understand the "boys, have at it" attitude but there has to be a limit.
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Well, I now NASCAR is all about a very specific "code". Drivers abide by it and make "track friends" and on the other hand, if shoved they shove back to show they will not allow themselves to be run over. So yes... being "shoved" or in any way blocked or what not, Edwards had a right to, in a future oportunity, shove back. During normal racing, because this is a part of NASCAR racing.
But I do not think any race driver has the right to respond to (more or less) normal racing incidents by returning to the pits, making his team fix the car back to running order, just to return to the track 100laps behind, time is pace to get close to another driver, explicitly take him out, and then return to the pits, driving the wrong way. This is not racing.
Some say "if he hadn't gone up in the air", or "Edwards didn't want him to fly", or even that doing it right there and then "no other cars were involved". All I have to say is that in that moment Edwards did not think of the consequences. If there were other cars around, if any of them could get hurt or even the crowd.
So for me Edwards acted his revenge (justified as it may be) with no intent or respect towards "racing" and with no regard for anyone's safety.
Taking into consideration no one was hurt, I just loved it!
...but we have to see it clearly and say that this is wrong. As is only a 3 race probation.
But I do not think any race driver has the right to respond to (more or less) normal racing incidents by returning to the pits, making his team fix the car back to running order, just to return to the track 100laps behind, time is pace to get close to another driver, explicitly take him out, and then return to the pits, driving the wrong way. This is not racing.
Some say "if he hadn't gone up in the air", or "Edwards didn't want him to fly", or even that doing it right there and then "no other cars were involved". All I have to say is that in that moment Edwards did not think of the consequences. If there were other cars around, if any of them could get hurt or even the crowd.
So for me Edwards acted his revenge (justified as it may be) with no intent or respect towards "racing" and with no regard for anyone's safety.
Taking into consideration no one was hurt, I just loved it!
...but we have to see it clearly and say that this is wrong. As is only a 3 race probation.
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It was not his intent, and he wasn't expecting it to happen. Nobody got hurt.
It was NASCAR's "safer" COT that caused him to get air.
See above.
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You havent been to many nascar races have you? If that car flew and took out the fence I predict the death toll more around 20. Those tracks are packed. I am 6ft tall and weigh 130 pounds yet I end up crammed in my seat. I have no idea what type of people are supposed to sit there.
Also enough with the COT caused him to get air. No COT would have caught air if no driver spun another around. Be it at dega or atlanta all of them were spun by another car. I already discussed my belief in the COT flight habbits on the previous page.
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I think the ESPN article said it best.
The whole "The car wouldn't flip if nobody spun each other" is just not a realistic expectation. Sure they shouldn't be spinning each other, but cars are going to crash and when that happens it's up to NASCAR not the drivers to make sure they don't wind up upside down. If you expect cars to not get into each other perhaps you should be watching another form of racing.
The whole "The car wouldn't flip if nobody spun each other" is just not a realistic expectation. Sure they shouldn't be spinning each other, but cars are going to crash and when that happens it's up to NASCAR not the drivers to make sure they don't wind up upside down. If you expect cars to not get into each other perhaps you should be watching another form of racing.
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I have to be the only dumb*** that watches nascar for side by side racing and not wrecks. In F1 if the cars get close enough to each other they start falling apart from the wake of the other car. Again I have said yes nascar did a bad job on the COT. They are also taking the fix the wrong way, I compared 2 models of both the same scale and the COT is definetly bigger and taller in the rear but the bottom of the bumper is too high off the ground. Something that should have been as simple as extending body work 3-6 inches now changes the whole game with the spoiler. And with the have at it boys attitude and the spoilers hate for close racing we are going to see more cars flying than ever.
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In my view, Edwards should be banned for the rest of the season, if not for life. Tagging someone while your racing is entirely different to deliberately setting out to wreck someone, who is doing ~190mph in a style of car that is known to flip, after you've been sitting in the pits most of the race. You could almost argue that it was attempted murder...
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If that was the aproach NASCAR was going to take then BK would have allready been banned, therefore Edwards would not be in trouble now.
I do agree that he could have waited for a better time to spin Brad but the fact still remains that the way BK has been racing this year is not very sportsman-like and it was only a matter of time until someone did the same thing.
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^Then we'd be arguing over Edwards wrecking himself off Keselowski's bumper trying to block him.
(Talking about Talladega last year)
(Talking about Talladega last year)
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I saw it the same way. Edwards decided to block and squeeze him into the yellow line, under the presumption that the "young dog" was going to lift for his Excellency to go by.
But regardless of "payback" or not, those are racing "incidents" and are a part of racing. Be it or not a more or less disguised "takedown", block, push or whatever. That fierce racing is what makes me watch NASCAR.
But what Edwards did, 156 laps down with the soul intent of wrecking BK, has nothing to do with racing IMO. Unless Nascar races have become demolition derbies and I've missed it.
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Anyone hear that during testing at 'Dega this week with the spoilers, Dale Jr. hit 213mph in a pack of cars? In-sane.
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213 mph instead of around 195 on a fast track sounds good 
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http://www.scenedaily.com/news/arti...closing_rates_and_drag_at_Talladega_test.html
Unfortunately NASCAR quickly rectified the issue by making changes that dropped their speeds down into the mid 190's again.
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