NEW DLC (TWIN RING MOTEGI & Scion FR-S'12)

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That's where your wrong. White isn't a color, just like black isn't a color. White is the lack of color, the void of hue and grayness. Which brings me back to my main point, blue is invariably and unarguably inevitably superior to red, in all shades and forms. Forget about red and blue? That would take a long time inside a small tin box...:lol:

Spamming the thread with off topic nonsense, great idea.
 
That's where your wrong. White isn't a color, just like black isn't a color. White is the lack of color, the void of hue and grayness. Which brings me back to my main point, blue is invariably and unarguably inevitably superior to red, in all shades and forms. Forget about red and blue? That would take a long time inside a small tin box...:lol:

I see, you see what I see,see?

So this isn't off topic at all, it is a comparision and a pointing out of opinions, weather its about a colour or about new dlc (twin ring motegi & scion fr-s '12).
What it really is about beeing right, seems like what's most important to people nowadays.
 
I see, you see what I see,see?

So this isn't off topic at all, it is a comparision and a pointing out of opinions, weather its about a colour or about new dlc (twin ring motegi & scion fr-s '12).
What it really is about beeing right, seems like what's most important to people nowadays.

Precisely.

Anyway, back on topic. I rarely race online, but if i did I would probobly buy the tracks. I had a lot of fun on them (Especially the Super Speedway) back in GT4, and there are a lot of lobbies using the road coarse. I have no complaints about the FR-S; I find it is one of the better 2WD rally cars, I'd say better than the 86-GT. The 86-GT was actually my first car in GT5, so I was exited when they said that the FR-S would be free. It is also another step towards the "Car Collector" trophy I have not gotten yet.
 
I see, you see what I see,see?

So this isn't off topic at all, it is a comparision and a pointing out of opinions, weather its about a colour or about new dlc (twin ring motegi & scion fr-s '12).
What it really is about beeing right, seems like what's most important to people nowadays.


And that is the very problem and why threads just get totally out of hand. I would like to know the age of some of the posters who have this relentless energy to argue and go around in circles. I am 31, and will put my point across by all means and will tangle from time to time, but as I have gotten older I find myself debating less and less on forums, because it achieves nothing. When speaking to people in the real world, intelligent discussion between 2 or more people can change and adapt those peoples opinions. Its called learning and becoming more wise. Internet conversations just do not seem to have that effect.

But yes, the whole DLC argument is only an argument because people take offense if somebody does not agree with their point of view/perspective. Whether the DLC is good value or not is simply a matter of opinion and perspective, there is no right or wrong, so trying to change one persons opinion means changing his/her perspective which is the hardest thing to do unless eye/life transplants have all of a sudden become possible.

Person A Thinks DLC is a rip off because he is unemployed.
Person B Thinks DLC is good value because TWM is his favorite track
Person C thinks DLC is a rip off because Forza DLC offers more
Person C Thinks DLC is Good Value because He just got food poising off of a £5 curry.

And so on......
 
I have no problem with people expressing their opinions, but when people say that other peoples opinions are wrong and that their opinion is always right is what I can't stand. Do I think the DLC is a good buy? Yes. Would I go around saying everyone who says otherwise is stupid? Absolutely not. People have a right to their opinions, and other people just need to understand that.
 
gamerdog6482
I have no problem with people expressing their opinions, but when people say that other peoples opinions are wrong and that their opinion is always right is what I can't stand. Do I think the DLC is a good buy? Yes. Would I go around saying everyone who says otherwise is stupid? Absolutely not. People have a right to their opinions, and other people just need to understand that.

This. We all have different opinions.
 
And that is the very problem and why threads just get totally out of hand. I would like to know the age of some of the posters who have this relentless energy to argue and go around in circles. I am 31, and will put my point across by all means and will tangle from time to time, but as I have gotten older I find myself debating less and less on forums, because it achieves nothing. When speaking to people in the real world, intelligent discussion between 2 or more people can change and adapt those peoples opinions. Its called learning and becoming more wise. Internet conversations just do not seem to have that effect.

But yes, the whole DLC argument is only an argument because people take offense if somebody does not agree with their point of view/perspective. Whether the DLC is good value or not is simply a matter of opinion and perspective, there is no right or wrong, so trying to change one persons opinion means changing his/her perspective which is the hardest thing to do unless eye/life transplants have all of a sudden become possible.

Person A Thinks DLC is a rip off because he is unemployed.
Person B Thinks DLC is good value because TWM is his favorite track
Person C thinks DLC is a rip off because Forza DLC offers more
Person C Thinks DLC is Good Value because He just got food poising off of a £5 curry.

And so on......


Well i'm just an old fart of 54 years( I can insult myself cant I) dont work, live on a small pension. spend 70% of my time fishing/caravanning and 20% on GT5. I still find the money to buy not just all DLC for this game but several amounts for my multiple accounts and 2 PS3 machines.

Me I'm person X who just enjoys the game and DLC for what it is. Thank you PD.
 
And that is the very problem and why threads just get totally out of hand. I would like to know the age of some of the posters who have this relentless energy to argue and go around in circles. I am 31, and will put my point across by all means and will tangle from time to time, but as I have gotten older I find myself debating less and less on forums, because it achieves nothing. When speaking to people in the real world, intelligent discussion between 2 or more people can change and adapt those peoples opinions. Its called learning and becoming more wise. Internet conversations just do not seem to have that effect.

But yes, the whole DLC argument is only an argument because people take offense if somebody does not agree with their point of view/perspective. Whether the DLC is good value or not is simply a matter of opinion and perspective, there is no right or wrong, so trying to change one persons opinion means changing his/her perspective which is the hardest thing to do unless eye/life transplants have all of a sudden become possible.

Person A Thinks DLC is a rip off because he is unemployed.
Person B Thinks DLC is good value because TWM is his favorite track
Person C thinks DLC is a rip off because Forza DLC offers more
Person C Thinks DLC is Good Value because He just got food poising off of a £5 curry.

And so on......
Couldn't agree more. lol at the food poison part.

As much as I would have wanted the track for free, I still find it reasonable to charge for it. It might not have been made from scratch but certainly people put in work on this.

The car is free and thats great, Scion/Toyota advertisment.
 
Well i'm just an old fart of 54 years( I can insult myself cant I) dont work, live on a small pension. spend 70% of my time fishing/caravanning and 20% on GT5. I still find the money to buy not just all DLC for this game but several amounts for my multiple accounts and 2 PS3 machines.

Me I'm person X who just enjoys the game and DLC for what it is. Thank you PD.


Good on you. :)

I think the best way to measure the value of anything despite all of the differing perspectives is simply to judge the monetary spend vs the enjoyment you get from what ever you spent the cash on. In this case it is a DLC track for us, and I think and would hope that even those saying that the track is not good value, between them would mostly say that £3.99 (or whatever you pay in your region) is of good value vs the enjoyment gained.

But hey that's just my opinion feel free to disagree! lol


Couldn't agree more. lol at the food poison part.

As much as I would have wanted the track for free, I still find it reasonable to charge for it. It might not have been made from scratch but certainly people put in work on this.

The car is free and thats great, Scion/Toyota advertisment.


lol Thanks.

Watch when next month they release Midfield, and the the month after that they release Apricot Hill, another million threads will crop up! lol
 
Good on you. :)

I think the best way to measure the value of anything despite all of the differing perspectives is simply to judge the monetary spend vs the enjoyment you get from what ever you spent the cash on. In this case it is a DLC track for us, and I think and would hope that even those saying that the track is not good value, between them would mostly say that £3.99 (or whatever you pay in your region) is of good value vs the enjoyment gained.

But hey that's just my opinion feel free to disagree! lol

I with I had £5 for every time someone comes into our lobbies and asks strait away to change track I dont have this DLC, Why didnt they look at the room title/track name before entering.

As for price for Motegi I do feel for the Australians and NZ guys they do seem to get an infated price. Is it there economy, Just done a few comparisons on google and they do pay more than UK for most weekly things you buy so it would appear DLC is base on there economy. Thus it is unfair to compare with other countries. Does Sony AUS set there price for DLC based on this ?
 
I with I had £5 for every time someone comes into our lobbies and asks strait away to change track I dont have this DLC, Why didnt they look at the room title/track name before entering.

As for price for Motegi I do feel for the Australians and NZ guys they do seem to get an infated price. Is it there economy, Just done a few comparisons on google and they do pay more than UK for most weekly things you buy so it would appear DLC is base on there economy. Thus it is unfair to compare with other countries. Does Sony AUS set there price for DLC based on this ?


The average new game in Aus costs $100, so comparatively I think it is similar. Isn't the Aus suppose to be the best place to live, I would not feel sorry for them, they got tropical beaches in the north, and jungles, fantastic weather mostly. MyGF keeps begging me to go live there as she was there for 1.5 years and loved it! lol

All the prices are set based upon local economies and what Sony/PD think they can get away with. They pay people allot of money to tell them what they should charge.
 
The value of the DLC is up to the individual.

If I only owned a PS3 and purely raced GT with like minded souls I would see the value of this DLC.

As I own multiple consoles and better choices I won't be touching this at all. So it's no value to me.

Others are in a different situation.
 
Who wants to bet that although Simon claims he hasn't bought the TRM DLC, he actually has, and is playing it on another account :-D

I bought the DLC, just haven been on GT to try it out......
 
Who wants to bet that although Simon claims he hasn't bought the TRM DLC, he actually has, and is playing it on another account :-D

I bought the DLC, just haven been on GT to try it out......

Been having this on my mind, too. hmmm conspiracy or true fact?? I'm on the bet on this...but how find out? someone here living close to him?
 
cally-dave
Who wants to bet that although Simon claims he hasn't bought the TRM DLC, he actually has, and is playing it on another account :-D

I bought the DLC, just haven been on GT to try it out......

I don't see how this is relevant to the topic. It looks like you're poking a bear, and I don't want to hear any crying when your arm gets biten off.

Stick to the topic at hand.
 
Been having this on my mind, too. hmmm conspiracy or true fact?? I'm on the bet on this...but how find out? someone here living close to him?

Are you for real? You want to send someone to my house to see if I'm lying about downloading DLC? Christ.
 
Naw man, don't take it all serious. Its a joke. leave the lordy out of this, please.

Back on topic, the oval is awesome fun!!!
 
I didn't even know Motegi was in gt4. I only played GT2(the one with the car under the silk sheet). I think its pretty cool to include the map. But i have a stupid question. Is the dlc track a real place?

And like I've said. The Fr-s feels very slow, but i love the look and sound of it. Its just so sweet!
 
I didn't even know Motegi was in gt4. I only played GT2(the one with the car under the silk sheet). I think its pretty cool to include the map. But i have a stupid question. Is the dlc track a real place?

And like I've said. The Fr-s feels very slow, but i love the look and sound of it. Its just so sweet!

Yes it is real, although the superspeedway is no longer in use.
 
lol Thanks.

Watch when next month they release Midfield, and the the month after that they release Apricot Hill, another million threads will crop up! lol

If this happens, I'll buy Midfield on day 1. I miss it a lot!

Apricot Hill was fun too.
 

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