New GT Vision cars are incredibly trashy

[AudiMan2011]

I also like the VGT cars we've gotten so far as each one has been different in their design execution.

The Merc looks like a 1930's design from the year 2067, low slung aggressive beauty wrapped in classical lines.

The BMW, is probably the most believable and realistic so far, looking like a steroidal M235i. I was disappointed at first, but I've begun to warm up to it.

The VW GTI is effectively an extreme speedster version of their 2013 Design Vision GTI concept, and it still looks wild which is a plus.

The upcoming Mistubishi XR-PHEV Evo so far looks like it's going down the Juke-R route in terms of design judging by the initial teaser. An extreme plug-in hybrid crossover is sure to raise some eyebrows.

I'm looking forward to Audi's VGT offering the most.

 

[Samus]

Great, another whining thread... for no reason. The VGT are good in my opinion.
And th VW Vision GT looks NOTHING loke the Citroen GT in my opinion. Nothing.

Fixed that for you.

 

[NixxxoN]

Fixed that for you.

The first one is my opinion yes, the 2nd... no. The GT by Citroen is a mid-engine supercar, the VW vision GT is a roof-less Golf GTI with front engine and supposedly 4WD. Its quite a different type of car. I suggest to examine both cars more carefully before posting nonsense.

 

[ukfan758]

I actually don't mind as long as it's free.

 

[KinLM]

The first one is my opinion yes, the 2nd... no. The GT by Citroen is a mid-engine supercar, the VW vision GT is a roof-less Golf GTI with front engine and supposedly 4WD. Its quite a different type of car. I suggest to examine both cars more carefully before posting nonsense.

Its still an opinion. Even if they're different cars underneath, you're talking about how you think they look. And you can't have factual evidence about something purely subjective.

 

[sparkytooth]

Really looking forward to the Toyota, Lamborghini and Lexus offerings.

 

[gtracedriver1]

Mercedes-Benz VGT is my favorite car. 66 wins already and I will probably go for 100

I love that car, even look wise, it looks sexy to me. BWM VGT, I did only some 10laps or so is also good but not my top10 or something. The biggest problem I think is no cockpit view in VGT cars Car handling and looks wise they are much better than most cars

 

[Quakebass]

So far I've liked all of the VGTs except for the BMW - to me it doesn't look like a very "explorative" design, it really just looks like a modded 2-series. I've seen BMW do more elaborate designs, and it seemed bland in comparison. I think I may be similarly disappointed in Mitsubishi's VGT based on the potential leaks, but I haven't seen it yet, so I can't make judgements.

I think the appeal of the VGTs are more based on opinion... Not everything will be pleasing to everyone, like most designs. I think it's just more pronounced here because the cars are more focused on their design aspects than their performance aspects.

 

[NixxxoN]

Its still an opinion. Even if they're different cars underneath, you're talking about how you think they look. And you can't have factual evidence about something purely subjective.

One being mid-engined and the other being front-engined means it's impossible that they look "extremely similar" as the OP said. Fact

Also one has roof and the other doesnt.

I only see those two similar in that they have 4 wheels and are quite low.

 

[Johnnypenso]

One being mid-engined and the other being front-engined means it's impossible that they look "extremely similar" as the OP said. Fact

Also one has roof and the other doesnt.

I only see those two similar in that they have 4 wheels and are quite low.

If you can't see similar design cues in those two cars you are completely blind. No one is saying they are identical and engine/drivetrain layout has nothing to do with similarities in body shape. But they do look quite similar in overall shape and design, to deny that is to be blind.

 

[RacingManiac]

The VW thing really is evolving the concept that they did last year for the Worthersee show:

Except this time out it will be available for GT6. Which actually is quite neat in its idea.

Whats more, the one last year was actually drive-able...
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/first-drive-vw-golf-gti-concept-2013-11-23

 

[ildd]

I'm kind of with the OP on this one. I wouldn't go so far as to say they're trashy, not at all in fact, but I am just not very interested in concept cars. Never have been, never will be. That said, I think the Citreon is a very good looking car.

Neither have I; I'm still not a big fan of the VGT's, and I won't be, BUT it's definitely awesome from a car lovers stand point. No other game will ever have these, and the manufacturers are going as far to make a 1:1 scale and treating it as a REAL concept car.

 

[Samus]

One being mid-engined and the other being front-engined means it's impossible that they look "extremely similar" as the OP said. Fact

Also one has roof and the other doesnt.

I only see those two similar in that they have 4 wheels and are quite low.

Extend the wheelbase slightly, complete the roof and remove the wing and they're very similar. Even without that they're still similar.

 

[NixxxoN]

If you can't see similar design cues in those two cars you are completely blind. No one is saying they are identical and engine/drivetrain layout has nothing to do with similarities in body shape. But they do look quite similar in overall shape and design, to deny that is to be blind.

Similar design cues yes. But its definitely not "extremely similar" like the OP said, period. Perhaps people who dont know about cars see them as quite similar but they really arent.

Extend the wheelbase slightly, complete the roof and remove the wing and they're very similar. Even without that they're still similar.

also change front/rear lights, change air intakes, change the engine, engine layout/placement, change the badge, the wheel rims, the mirrors, the interior...

 

[masterrawad]

What's not to say that all car manufacturers ripped off of the GTByCitroen?!?

See? All these cars were born from utter plagiarism.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

They all have similar side vents (except for the Alto)...

 

[NixxxoN]

Oh please. Ferrari FXX copying from the GT by Citroen??

The FXX is based on the Enzo, a car from 2002. The GT by Citroen is from 2008.

Most manufacturers get inspired by other manufacturers designs, that has alwyas been like that and not only in cars but in almost everything.

 

[masterrawad]

Oh please. Ferrari FXX copying from the GT by Citroen??

The FXX is based on the Enzo, a car from 2002. The GT by Citroen is from 2008.

Most manufacturers get inspired by other manufacturers designs, that has alwyas been like that and not only in cars but in almost everything.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Similar design cues yes. But its definitely not "extremely similar" like the OP said, period. Perhaps people who dont know about cars see them as quite similar but they really arent.

also change front/rear lights, change air intakes, change the engine, engine layout/placement, change the badge, the wheel rims, the mirrors, the interior...

You don't understand the word "similar" do you? It's the overall shape and obvious design philosophy of the cars that is similar, not individual components.

Oh please. Ferrari FXX copying from the GT by Citroen??

The FXX is based on the Enzo, a car from 2002. The GT by Citroen is from 2008.

Most manufacturers get inspired by other manufacturers designs, that has alwyas been like that and not only in cars but in almost everything.

You're so focused on being right, you missed the joke.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

I really like all 3 VGT offerings to date. The Mercedes-Benz is an outrageous machine with epic low-slung styling, some fabulous surface detailing (Neon) and it sounds like God clearing his throat.

The BMW is an icon of BMW Motorsport brought right up to date. No, it doesn't look as cool as the preliminary sketch but it has an intensity of purpose few others have.

Volkswagen have done something similar to BMW by being heavily inspired by an icon but have dialled it up to 11. Hopefully it has a decent engine soundtrack to compliment it's aggressive styling.

The future of Vision Gran Turismo is very exciting and I am very much looking forward to what some of the design studios put forward. No whining from me on this topic.

 

[Tornado]

also change front/rear lights, change air intakes, change the engine, engine layout/placement, change the badge, the wheel rims, the mirrors, the interior...

You keep mentioning this one specific one as if it makes any difference to a pie in the sky design study's styling. Perhaps you can explain how?

 

[NixxxoN]

You're so focused on being right.

Lol thats so funny coming from you. You are constantly trying to be right and trying to make me be wrong.

You keep mentioning this one specific one as if it makes any difference to a pie in the sky design study's styling. Perhaps you can explain how?

The OP never talked about styling, he talked about the cars in general, so...

 

[Tornado]

You usually don't need to terribly much help with that.

 

[NixxxoN]

You usually don't need to terribly much help with that.

Of course, and you are mr know everything

 

[Samus]

Lol thats so funny coming from you. You are constantly trying to be right and trying to make me be wrong.

The OP never talked about styling, he talked about the cars in general, so...

The Volkswagen Vision GT looks extremely similar

Swing and a miss.

 

[NixxxoN]

"swing and a miss"... Are you playing baseball?

Indeed he said "The Volkswagen Vision GT looks extremely similar" and not "The styling in both cars look similar"

 

[ildd]

What's not to say that all car manufacturers ripped off of the GTByCitroen?!?

See? All these cars were born from utter plagiarism.

You just wanted an excuse for posting the Alto... which is more than 10 years older than the GT.

And the FXX was made before the GT, also.

 

[masterrawad]

You just wanted an excuse for posting the Alto... which is more than 10 years older than the GT.

And the FXX was made before the GT, also.

Once again...

 

[Tornado]

Indeed he said "The Volkswagen Vision GT looks extremely similar" and not "The styling in both cars look similar"

Except:

One being mid-engined and the other being front-engined means it's impossible that they look "extremely similar" as the OP said. Fact

You already conceded that you were comparing looks on the basis of engine layout, so your ludicrous assertion that the two sentences don't mean the same thing to try to get out of answering the question was moot before you even typed it. So are you simply saying words randomly and hoping that they construct a cognizant point?

But I'll ask again anyway: For a purely fantasy concept car, what difference does the engine layout make on the styling when comparing it to another purely fantasy concept car?










By the way, since we're dealing with your usual brand of "facts" again, the original GT by Citroen design study wasn't intended to be mid engined. Hence posts like this:

The first one is my opinion yes, the 2nd... no. The GT by Citroen is a mid-engine supercar, the VW vision GT is a roof-less Golf GTI with front engine and supposedly 4WD. Its quite a different type of car. I suggest to examine both cars more carefully before posting nonsense.

Makes a very good example for why:

You usually don't need to terribly much help with that.

 

[TurismoBad]

For me none of the cars looks "trashy" - whatever was implied by that expression. I assume OP meant "unpolished" and "rushed" ? Simply bad looking ?

I liked all of the VGTs so far - not once I found myself thinking "eewwww what an ugly car" - maybe because I don't putt them side by side with masterpieces like Miura, DB5 or an E-Type.

This is not the purpose of this project.

Consider this - how many beautiful cars were created from 1000s of models across years of automobile history ?

These are just concepts created for fun and with "free mind".

I never expected VGT cars to be truly "serious" cars so the way I look at them is different than I look at a regular car.

I look at these cars as a mean of artistic expression and an interesting addition to the game. I can appreciate single elements of their look and homage given to famous models of the specific manufacturer reflected in the design.