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I get your point, but I think you're forgetting how little information these demos actually show.
New GT5 demo???
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I get your point, but I think you're forgetting how little information these demos actually show.
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Read the video description. It says that every frame took ten minutes to render.
It's impossible to see these kinds of physics in real time with the technology we have now.
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Forget about 500.000 polys.We all know how good CAN be 192.000 looking - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fIqRk6pYQ8
(this is NOT GT5, but it built to run on GT5 engine...by Ukrainen people
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(this is NOT GT5, but it built to run on GT5 engine...by Ukrainen people
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No, built to the same specs as models for GT5 were reportedly built at the time...
I'm pretty sure that means the cars in GT5
were around 200k...
I'm pretty sure that means the cars in GT5
were around 200k...
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Yes.I mean just № of polys and texture res are in GT specs.Not AA effects or raytracing.No, built to the same specs as models for GT5 were reportedly built at the time...
I'm pretty sure that means the cars in GT5
But we need to agree - that's damn good looking.I mean after 18mp GT5 screens (awesome but....not as "round").
Polygon distribution in this vid just amazing.Think how it looks like if there 500.000
Oh. I forgot.Developers of this model have said that it CAN be looked like this,but in garage at least (PD using raytraced light in garage)
Sorry for eng!
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They probably have better and faster program to develop this deformation..I think this damage system made by 3Dmax.
IS there any program better than 3d max?
IS there any program better than 3d max?
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Given that how little has been officially announced, I fail to see how you think that I'm forgetting something. They show what they show, nothing more, nothing less. I'm not expecting, and nor do I want, a "stripped out" example of the final game as yet another demo. I just want the game when it is ready.
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Maya is also a very powerful 3D package - generally more complex and harder to learn, but is better for certain things (out of the box). There is also Lightwave and XSI, as well as the free "Blender".
I get the impression that movie houses tend to go for Maya, whereas games developers tend to use 3D Studio Max. Most people I know tend to go for 3D Studio Max for its general usability and features.
Whichever is better is largely answered by which one you know best. I'm sure one really is more capable than the other, but like anything, it's what you can get out of it that matters. I'm sure that some people could easily do something in Blender that would be hard(er) in 3D Studio Max, just because they know the software better. That doesn't mean Blender is actually better. To answer the question properly, you need to define what would actually make one better than the other, and quantify it. Lack of quantification is what killed the "Which steering wheel is better?" thread!
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Yes, but the damage simulation took 20s per frame. That could easily scale to real-time if the number of components and constraints were reduced, as well as some accuracy. It works in GRiD (ignoring any complaints of "realism") and GTAIV - I think that's the route PD want to go down for the race machines.
Yeah, it does look rather silly at times - but the system works! It's just a matter of tweaking values, it seems...
Your English is just fine 👍
I get what you're saying, but PD model the cars with each part separately, so the poly-distribution may well be completely different (by requirement) than what could be achieved with the CCX - but if the models really are 500k and not 200k ingame, then I suppose there's no excuse!
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Sure, but they have full deformation - bits falling off is comparatively simple!
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Yeah, it was impressive when I first time saw a head-on crash in slo-mo in GRID.
Hard to tell if something like that would work in GT. I have no idea how much resources something like that takes.
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I thought that damage and effects that followed were pretty awesome in GRID!
There of course can't be as much detail and pieces as in pre-rendered stuff, but common, this is pretty cool, although not 100% realistic.
There of course can't be as much detail and pieces as in pre-rendered stuff, but common, this is pretty cool, although not 100% realistic.
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Its because kazunori... he thinks no car deserves to be scratched... hahaha kiddding.
I think its because they are race cars... modified for that. They are non stock cars.... unmodified. But that goes all way down when i remind the NFS SHift, that have licensed cars and stock...with damage.
Anyway, thats gone by now... GT5 will have damage in all cars...
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Your English is just fine 👍
I get what you're saying, but PD model the cars with each part separately, so the poly-distribution may well be completely different (by requirement) than what could be achieved with the CCX - but if the models really are 500k and not 200k ingame, then I suppose there's no excuse![/QUOTE]
Whoops!I totally forgot this!Thanks
Wait is killing me.Now it's even fun how long it takes.I hope that they release demo in 31 March ))) *dreaming*
I get what you're saying, but PD model the cars with each part separately, so the poly-distribution may well be completely different (by requirement) than what could be achieved with the CCX - but if the models really are 500k and not 200k ingame, then I suppose there's no excuse![/QUOTE]
Whoops!I totally forgot this!Thanks
Wait is killing me.Now it's even fun how long it takes.I hope that they release demo in 31 March ))) *dreaming*
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The first TOCA came out in 1997! Sure Codemasters have been on the scene for a loooong time, but I think their association with the car industry is about as long-lived as PD's, though I doubt TOCA took 5 years to develop
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The first TOCA came out in 1997! Sure Codemasters have been on the scene for a loooong time, but I think their association with the car industry is about as long-lived as PD's, though I doubt TOCA took 5 years to develop
TOCA had like ten cars and not too many tracks if I remember correctly.
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To be frank, if they don't want to give this demo for free, which would be great, they could at least bind it to Prologue, I mean you can only access the demo from GT5P. It would be a nice reward to GT5P owners and better than any unlikely spec4 update.
Otherwise, give it for free. I'll be happy with any option since I can play this thing. October is far away, c'mon, it would be a free-marketing tool for PD.
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have we seen the GT5 road course Italy yet? see the vid at the top of this page, It shows a course selection for what looks like the GT5 demo
http://translate.google.com/transla...-246-aus-GT5-703378/&rurl=translate.google.de
http://translate.google.com/transla...-246-aus-GT5-703378/&rurl=translate.google.de
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road course , indy, as said in other thread
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