New Nissan on 10th June? Reveal on 16th

[SnakeOfBacon]

Fads are not motives in technology globally. You're going to see it evolve further rather than it phasing out.

Hybrid technology is very young technology, and it's also advanced very quickly.

Hybrid technology is the future of the automotive industry.

You both may be right, unfortunately. Hybrids may very well be the future, only the near future though, they're not a permanent solution at all. Once we can make batteries cleaner and more efficient hybrid cars will be slightly practical, and then we can drop that idea, and get to work on getting mainstream renewable energy to power fully electric cars (and everything else), and throwing a lot more research into hydrogen fuel cells.

 

[FoRiZon]

Okay. Since All of the VGT cars except Mercedes were based on the "normal" counterparts, what do we reckon that Nissan VGT would be the tuned version of these cars:

Nissan Friend-Me Concept, here is the interior:

Or maybe Nissan Altima 2015?

I also bet it doesn't look very identical to the sketch on top.

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

Okay. Since All of the VGT cars except Mercedes were based on the "normal" counterparts, what do we reckon that Nissan VGT would be the tuned version of these cars:

Nissan Friend-Me Concept, or

Nissan Altima 2015?

This new Nissan carries over some of the design principles of the cars (same bonnet lines and hideous facial geometry) but I don't think it is a 'tuned version' of any of these, but rather Nissan's current design principles turned up to MAX EDGY.
Also, regarding your last statement:

I also bet it doesn't look very identical to the sketch on top. ( BMW anyone? )

I bet it will look absolutely identical to the image on top, as that image was released only 6 days before the planned reveal date, while the BMW sat on the GT website for many months as a placeholder to let us know that BMW was making a car.

Also, do keep in mind that we don't know for sure if this car is a VGT or not, keep in mind that rather than the image at the top being on the VGT page, Nissan's section is solely this:

Maybe that will change tomorrow, maybe not. Also bear in mind that this car was introduced as only "the next chapter in the Nissan story" unlike every other VGT so far, which have been explicitly introduced as being for the VGT project.

 

[Griffith500]

You both may be right, unfortunately. Hybrids may very well be the future, only the near future though, they're not a permanent solution at all. Once we can make batteries cleaner and more efficient hybrid cars will be slightly practical, and then we can drop that idea, and get to work on getting mainstream renewable energy to power fully electric cars (and everything else), and throwing a lot more research into hydrogen fuel cells.

Once batteries are more "efficient", particularly in terms of energy and power density per kg, we won't need a surrogate storage medium like hydrogen to put into a fuel cell. It's at least two extra conversion steps, which induces a much lower overall production-to-point-of-use efficiency. If we're going the fuel cell route, it's probably better to use the materials we generate hydrogen from directly in said fuel cells anyway, especially given the purity requirement.

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

Once batteries are more "efficient", particularly in terms of energy and power density per kg, we won't need a surrogate storage medium like hydrogen to put into a fuel cell. It's at least two extra conversion steps, which induces a much lower overall production-to-point-of-use efficiency. If we're going the fuel cell route, it's probably better to use the materials we generate hydrogen from directly in said fuel cells anyway, especially given the purity requirement.

I'll clarify what I meant a bit:
Manufacturers will probably continue to push hybrids as the "next big thing" for another decade or two, minimum. While they're doing this, we'll likely see sufficient advancements in energy capacity and power density from batteries, if we're lucky this will be followed by the introduction and widespread adoption of Graphene and Carbon Nanotube Supercapacaitors (anyone who doesn't know, look them up, they're pretty cool). If at this point the car industy is still faffing about and trying to justify petrol/battery hybrids we should smack them in the face, because they will have reached the point where their efforts could be put to better use on all-electric cars. Of course, these all-electric cars will need to be charged from renewable energy sources (as will everything else) or they'll be just as pointless as they are today. While we're slowly shifting the world away from fossil fuels, which will take at least 60 years, we should throw heaps of money at hydrogen fuel cells and other power sources so that while our planes and cargo ships are using our fuel we'll still be able to drive.

 

[Griffith500]

I'll clarify what I meant a bit:
Manufacturers will probably continue to push hybrids as the "next big thing" for another decade or two, minimum. While they're doing this, we'll likely see sufficient advancements in energy capacity and power density from batteries, if we're lucky this will be followed by the introduction and widespread adoption of Graphene and Carbon Nanotube Supercapacaitors (anyone who doesn't know, look them up, they're pretty cool). If at this point the car industy is still faffing about and trying to justify petrol/battery hybrids we should smack them in the face, because they will have reached the point where their efforts could be put to better use on all-electric cars. Of course, these all-electric cars will need to be charged from renewable energy sources (as will everything else) or they'll be just as pointless as they are today. While we're slowly shifting the world away from fossil fuels, which will take at least 60 years, we should throw heaps of money at hydrogen fuel cells and other power sources so that while our planes and cargo ships are using our fuel we'll still be able to drive.

I agree that all-electric is the ultimate "end-point", at least until the next "revolution" is required.

I disagree that hydrogen fuel cells are at all viable for transportation purposes, purely because of the issue of hydrogen production itself, not to mention storage and distribution (inc. retrofitting).

Since all-electric tech should develop at the same rate as hydrogen fuel cells, if not faster, it's better just to cut out the middle-man. The only thing hydrogen has going for it is its supposed "green credentials", but its production is currently anything but "green". Steps to remediate that would obviate the actual need for hydrogen, in the "green" sense.

As for "fossil" fuels, I think the real issue is the shift in the balance of power if / when synthetic or "recycled" hydrocarbon sources become more ubiquitous, as part of the interim solution.

 

[Squach240]

I disagree that hydrogen fuel cells are at all viable for transportation purposes, purely because of the issue of hydrogen production itself, not to mention storage and distribution (inc. retrofitting).

👍 Beat me to the punch.



Although since the BMW Hydrogen card was pulled due to moves recently... Did you know Mazda has a hydrogen running vehicle? It was in a form of an RX-8 with a Renesis rotary... it was a motor that was capable of both hydrogen and fossil fuels... get this, 2003. Hydrogen hasn't really evolved due to it's completely impractical for daily use.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I'll laugh if this car is not for GT6.

 

[fortbo]

I'll laugh if this car is not for GT6.

Nissan on Twitter: we are sorry to inform you that the Nissan concept teased is for Forza and not for Gran Turismo, we apologize for the misunderstanding.

 

[gregorius93]

Nissan on Twitter: we are sorry to inform you that the Nissan concept teased is for Forza and not for Gran Turismo, we apologize for the misunderstanding.

really?

 

[fortbo]

really?

Yes really! (Sarcasm)

 

[gregorius93]

Yes really! (Sarcasm)

if is true, hopefully we'll get a concept car from Porsche

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

I agree that all-electric is the ultimate "end-point", at least until the next "revolution" is required.

I disagree that hydrogen fuel cells are at all viable for transportation purposes, purely because of the issue of hydrogen production itself, not to mention storage and distribution (inc. retrofitting).

Since all-electric tech should develop at the same rate as hydrogen fuel cells, if not faster, it's better just to cut out the middle-man. The only thing hydrogen has going for it is its supposed "green credentials", but its production is currently anything but "green". Steps to remediate that would obviate the actual need for hydrogen, in the "green" sense.

As for "fossil" fuels, I think the real issue is the shift in the balance of power if / when synthetic or "recycled" hydrocarbon sources become more ubiquitous, as part of the interim solution.

That's why I said, hydrogen fuel cells and other power sources, the way hydrogen is procured and used in cars currently isn't working, but future research into hydrogen and other alternative fuels is definitely a good idea.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Nissan on Twitter: we are sorry to inform you that the Nissan concept teased is for Forza and not for Gran Turismo, we apologize for the misunderstanding.

Hahaha! Some GT fans will go crazy if that happed.

 

[MCNAGTROC]

here you go

 

[diegorborges]

Some sort of R390... Quite like it.

 

[Arixant]

here you go

it was the car from the trailer

 

[MCNAGTROC]

which trailer?

 

[gregorius93]

it was the car from the trailer

I think it's completely different, if I'm not wrong

 

[Samus]

it was the car from the trailer

Barely any resemblance at all. No.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

Take away the rear wing, and it does look similarish to the mysterious car in the Silverstone trailer (well, the rear lights and top of the rear bodywork). Maybe it was a very early version?

Edit: Hmm, just looked at that old pic again and it doesn't look the same. The rear lights are a near copy of the R390's though. Nissan sure do like those twin circle tail lights, they've been using them for decades.

 

[TokoTurismo]

here you go

Seriously I have never in my entire life seen such a ugly car! Was Nissan drunk when they made that? I know it's just a concept but come, on...

 

[DSUjoeDirte9]

I really like the back. Just wish the sides were prettier and the front wasn't so high. That back end up to waste

 

[Imari]

Water vapour is also confusing in respect of its effect in climate change feedback cycles, so it's perhaps safest to err on the side of not dumping loads more of it into the atmosphere.

...

And while we're at it, we should get rid of the oceans, the major source of water vapour in the atmosphere.

I seriously doubt any number of cars burning hydrogen can even make a dent in the water vapour that's already generated daily from every source of open water on the planet. Not to mention that it seems to be self-regulating. Too much water in the air? Here comes the rain!

Come on, man. I know you're smarter than this.

 

[MCNAGTROC]

yeah definitely some R390 in there with the taillights and the arched back wing

 

[Sixflags48]

If they can get the front of that new Nissan sorted out, I'd be able to say I like the car. The lines are confused around the window line, and the front grill is a terrible mess. Just lowering them might work to an extent.

 

[Zlork]

here you go

Superb !

 

[KinLM]

Im still curious how this is linked to GT6. Will we be receiving the car today? Or will it be another case of "See the car in real life, the virtual one is arriving in 'a future update'"?

 

[jagenigma]

Some sort of R390... Quite like it.

R490?

 

[FoRiZon]

here you go

So its less a GTR-LM

and more of the "GTR-R390 VGT/GTR 2 Proto"?. Ok then