New Seasonal: Mini Challenge
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- SlyckTires
Just golded London by .888 sec, had to change the oil (400pp) on my 07 cooper and switch to sport mediums to do it tho. Kudos to those who can ace this with s stock car
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After many tries, alas manage to gold London in sports hard with juz ecu tuning n racing filter. Only autumn ring mini remains for sports hard challenge. Using sports soft or better even with stock certainly negate any challenge. I am doubtful all races can be done with comfort soft so for those who find it easy, hopefully u can prove me wrong.
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- GTP_JamieC2311
I managed to do them all on Sports hards apart from London and Autumn ring, couldn't get close to 1st place so I got some stickier rubber for them. I enjoyed these seasonals though. Everyone who thinks there boring are probably using Racing softs and superchargers, off course its going to be boring if you do that. De-tune your car, some less sticky tyres and voila, there you have it, a fun competitive race.
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- Solid Gone
- MeanElf
True, race specs recommend that Sports Hard are what the competition will be going with - so no shame there
I've done them all on S1 except London and Autum Ring, they needed S2s just for the retention of traction, aided by custom suspension and transmission.
As a slight aside - I wish they'd reduce Trial Mountain to 3 or maybe 4 laps - 5 is far longer than any of the others, making it easy to get into first place.
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- Aubrey, Texas
One of the things I like about GT is that it let's me experience things that teach me about high performance driving which I could never learn any other way. Case in point, the Autumn Ring Mini race.
For me this race is all about tires. To win, you need to be able to produce laps of 43.xx seconds. On sports hard tires I cannot produce that lap time regardless of what I do to the car. More horsepower doesn't help because time is defined in the corners on this track, and I haven't found any series of tuning characteristics that allows me to produce laps of 43.xx, the best I can do is 44.xx.
Switch to sports medium and I can turn laps of 42.xx and win gold.
I'm sure there are skilled drivers who can get a Mini around the Autumn Ring mini course in 43.xx on sports hard but this challenge has taught me how sometimes one element of performance dominates the rest and cannot be overcome by clever combinations of tuning.
For me this race is all about tires. To win, you need to be able to produce laps of 43.xx seconds. On sports hard tires I cannot produce that lap time regardless of what I do to the car. More horsepower doesn't help because time is defined in the corners on this track, and I haven't found any series of tuning characteristics that allows me to produce laps of 43.xx, the best I can do is 44.xx.
Switch to sports medium and I can turn laps of 42.xx and win gold.
I'm sure there are skilled drivers who can get a Mini around the Autumn Ring mini course in 43.xx on sports hard but this challenge has taught me how sometimes one element of performance dominates the rest and cannot be overcome by clever combinations of tuning.
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- ToyoBart
i already had my Cooper S sitting in the garage tuned to 450PP so that was no trouble at all , then i also tuned the '98 to 450PP at 159BHP . quite entertaining these two...
i hope the next update will be something more challenging ,
i liked the "smaller than 4.2m" challenge , maybe next time a heavyweight challenge ?
i hope the next update will be something more challenging ,
i liked the "smaller than 4.2m" challenge , maybe next time a heavyweight challenge ?
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- SlyckTires
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- Crowood
Just a little OT:
For the seasonal i used the 98 mini, nearly complete maxed out (midrange turbo insted of high range). I detuned it to 140hp and round 650kg, but that mini is so SLOW
Tried it fully modded on Döttinger Höhe...170+ HP custom transmission and a weight of 650kg....it barely reached 202 KM/H. That is a joke on that hp/weight ratio
How is that possible? With that stats, the mini should race like a rocket
For the seasonal i used the 98 mini, nearly complete maxed out (midrange turbo insted of high range). I detuned it to 140hp and round 650kg, but that mini is so SLOW
Tried it fully modded on Döttinger Höhe...170+ HP custom transmission and a weight of 650kg....it barely reached 202 KM/H. That is a joke on that hp/weight ratio
How is that possible? With that stats, the mini should race like a rocket
Just a little OT:
For the seasonal i used the 98 mini, nearly complete maxed out (midrange turbo insted of high range). I detuned it to 140hp and round 650kg, but that mini is so SLOW
Tried it fully modded on Döttinger Höhe...170+ HP custom transmission and a weight of 650kg....it barely reached 202 KM/H. That is a joke on that hp/weight ratio
How is that possible? With that stats, the mini should race like a rocket
Maximum speed is mainly attributed to hp, transmission and drag coefficient. As such, high hp/weight mainly helps with acceleration/cornering and going uphill. The air resistance remains similar for a similarly shaped car regardless of weight. Btw did u set the max speed on the custom transmission? 200-220kph sounds about right for mini at 170hp. with drafting it can go faster.
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Indeed. I found Trial Mountain and the Kart track a doddle, but really struggled at London and Autumn Ring - why is that, different driving technique required?
Anyone else thinks Minis handle like crap? I hated the new seasonals thanks to this little ff , front wheels lose traction no matter how carefull i am with the throttle..I started using the handbrake to make it turn , and it's really annoying. I'm not going to spend any money to fix it , so when i'm done with the seasonals i'm getting rid of my Mini.
Well, Mini is not the best car even among FF and everybody doesn't need to like it, but it is not such a crap hopelessly requiring hand-breaking to turn in.
It seems that a bunch of people manage to handle this car without serious trouble.
Oh, wait, this reminds me of an old proverb from ancient Bang Dynasty:
"Breathe deeply and meditate. Then, you will realize that sometimes a real crap has two legs, not four wheels." - Tao for Modest Drivers
Faster driving technique required ( or a faster car )because the tracks are shorter than the others.
London and AR Mini´s total time is around 5 minutes.The others are around 7 minutes.That means you have less time to catch up the leader.
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Need some tips on how to win Autumn ring with sports hard. Anyone with ghost replay to share?
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- SlyckTires
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- woodski427
could well be, remember the original (proper) Mini has welded seems on the OUTSIDE - I expect this creates plently of drag. Could do with a de-seam option in GT Auto
On topic though, I found Tsukuba quite challenging with SH tyres and 400pp in the 07 Cooper. A bit too understeery - might check out a tune.
I think London is a tough track. Pretty much all blind corners and I find that high speed left (after the straight) into braking for the long right (turn 3?) really unsettles the car; and you can lose a lot of time here if AI are in the way.
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- CyKosis1973
Just a little OT:
For the seasonal i used the 98 mini, nearly complete maxed out (midrange turbo insted of high range). I detuned it to 140hp and round 650kg, but that mini is so SLOW
Tried it fully modded on Döttinger Höhe...170+ HP custom transmission and a weight of 650kg....it barely reached 202 KM/H. That is a joke on that hp/weight ratio
How is that possible? With that stats, the mini should race like a rocket
Just out of curiosity, if you have a custom transmission installed, what's your Final Drive set to..??
{Cy}
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- AimOnTarget
shocked how easy it became with the change of tires. Took the Cooper S '05 to the max with comfort tires and couldn't get closer to 7th on Autumn Ring but when I got the sports medium I was driving first after 5 rounds and finished 10secs ahead of the 2nd
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- Crowood
I just set the top speed to 220 kph. Did not adjust every gear seperate.
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- DrKronin
Well, I don't know how skilled I am, but I finally did manage to gold this using sport/hard tires. BUT, I did cut some corners pretty badly to get that. I don't think I missed the grass on a single corner after the back straight. I probably did just barely manage to keep a tire on the track for the whole lap, but still, some might take issue with that method.
To me, this was about rhythm more than anything. I opened practice mode and ran 50+ laps. Watching my ghost car speed away from me when I made even the slightest error on the entry or exit of a turn hammered that point home. Virtually all of the corners on this tracks have to be exited with the entry of the next corner in mind. Improve your speed through a turn? Congrats, now you have to rethink your entry into the next corner (or corners). I really enjoyed the challenge.
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