New Skylines: Clarified

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There is no GTR but there is a 271bhp Skyline NISMO, sold in Japa and tested by EVO this month.

It might be going to the USA as a Infiniti according to the report, but it isn't coming to the UK officially.
 
Yeah Nissan actually said they are going to have a 4wd verison of the new skyline non gt-r or G35.. it will use the same 4wd systems as the GT-R so look for that.
 
Hopefully, within the next 2 years, my dad will want a new car, then maybe ill get his g35. That would be most excellent.
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
Another thing I am GREATLY pleased to find is that Nissan decided not to team up with anyone else and made the GTR a Nissan only project. meaning stupid renault cant **** it up. :D
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Only just noticed this one and had to reply.

Just to let you know, the man that made that decision was Carlos Ghosn, who runs Nissan on behalf of Renault. Also without 'stupid Renault' there is a good chance that Nissan would be no more. Ghosn and Renault turned Nissan from a virtualy bankrupt company into one making a solid profit within a three year period, hardly a **** up; for a true **** up look at DaimlerChrysler.

The Japanese consider Ghosn a bit of a celebrity because of the way he has turned the company around, but he was originaly very unpopular, with a number of Nissan board members resigning over Renaults' decision to have him run Nissan.

If you don't think that Renault will have input into the car at some stage in it's life you are very much mistaken. When you own 51% of a company (as Renault do), you don't let them go and blow a good few million without geting involved as some level.

Renault and Nissan are dedicated to platform and component sharing as a cost saving method, so a new GTR with no link to Renault would be unlikely.

How do I know all this, simple I used to work for Renault, and still do in a consultancy role.
 
Originally posted by ShobThaBob
Hopefully, within the next 2 years, my dad will want a new car, then maybe ill get his g35. That would be most excellent.
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So damn lucky... me i probably will get his 2001 Nissan Quest (van) vroom vroom :)
 
Originally posted by Scaff
Only just noticed this one and had to reply.

Just to let you know, the man that made that decision was Carlos Ghosn, who runs Nissan on behalf of Renault. Also without 'stupid Renault' there is a good chance that Nissan would be no more. Ghosn and Renault turned Nissan from a virtualy bankrupt company into one making a solid profit within a three year period, hardly a **** up; for a true **** up look at DaimlerChrysler.

The Japanese consider Ghosn a bit of a celebrity because of the way he has turned the company around, but he was originaly very unpopular, with a number of Nissan board members resigning over Renaults' decision to have him run Nissan.

If you don't think that Renault will have input into the car at some stage in it's life you are very much mistaken. When you own 51% of a company (as Renault do), you don't let them go and blow a good few million without geting involved as some level.

Renault and Nissan are dedicated to platform and component sharing as a cost saving method, so a new GTR with no link to Renault would be unlikely.

How do I know all this, simple I used to work for Renault, and still do in a consultancy role.
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I agree that Renault will probably have a say in this, but yeah Renault help Nissan out in a time of need when it went bankrupcy so i do think that Renault will probably have alittle to do with the legendary Nissan GT-R. I know why some are upset and i am alittle too even though i dont want Renault to help Nissan with the GT-R its going to happen even if its just a little. I mean the first GT-R didnt need Renaults help.. so IMO this shouldnt either but like scaff said when you own 51% of a company most likely they will have alittle input in the making of the GT-R. Lets just wait and see what happens from here.
 
Originally posted by Scaff
Only just noticed this one and had to reply.

Just to let you know, the man that made that decision was Carlos Ghosn, who runs Nissan on behalf of Renault. Also without 'stupid Renault' there is a good chance that Nissan would be no more. Ghosn and Renault turned Nissan from a virtualy bankrupt company into one making a solid profit within a three year period, hardly a **** up; for a true **** up look at DaimlerChrysler.

The Japanese consider Ghosn a bit of a celebrity because of the way he has turned the company around, but he was originaly very unpopular, with a number of Nissan board members resigning over Renaults' decision to have him run Nissan.

If you don't think that Renault will have input into the car at some stage in it's life you are very much mistaken. When you own 51% of a company (as Renault do), you don't let them go and blow a good few million without geting involved as some level.

Renault and Nissan are dedicated to platform and component sharing as a cost saving method, so a new GTR with no link to Renault would be unlikely.

How do I know all this, simple I used to work for Renault, and still do in a consultancy role.
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lol true on the Daimler Chrysler thing :lol:
I just meant that Renault should stay away from the GTR because none of their cars really appeal to me. I mean I don't associate GTR type performace with anything renault would touch. Unless they end up surprising me. We will see.
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
I mean I don't associate GTR type performace with anything renault would touch. Unless they end up surprising me. We will see.
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Renault has had its moments of sheer lunacy when it comes to making fast, fine handling cars.

Th Alpine Renault A110 won the WRC twice in a basically stock form.

The Renault 5 Turbo and Turbo 2 were completely nuts, small mid-engined hatchbacks, but what an engine a 1.4 litre hemi with a Garrett T4/T3 turbo. In road going form these produced about 150bhp, however this was pushed to between 250-350 bhp for the WRC cars, remember the damn thing only weighs about 900kgs.

The Renault Clio Williams is still rated as one of the best handling hot hatches of all time and the current Renaultsport Clio 172 (and forthcoming 182) are very well rated, particularly in the Cup trim.

In the '80's Renault brought out the GTA, a rear engined Porsche 911 rival, that was faster and better handling than the 911's of the day (just a pity the electrics were crap).

They brought out a light weight aluminium chassis, mid engined roadster before Lotus brought out the Elise, in the shape of the Spider.

Then you have the completly barmy Renaultsport Clio V6, now in its second generation with an output of 255bhp and revised chassis and handling set-up.

You should also remeber that Renault has over 100 years of experience at all levels of motorsport, they have won in F1, F2, F3, the Paris-Daker, the WRC, Group N rally championships, Le Mans, Nurburgring 500kms, Sebring 12hrs and various touring car championships.

Personally I think that NIssan and Renault working together on the new GTR is good news, I mean the above is not a bad CV for a car company to work on the design of a performance car and Renault have proven with their management of Nissan to date that they understand and respect the brand values held by Nissan and I'm sure that includes the Skyline/GTR brand.
 

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Originally posted by Scaff
Renault has had its moments of sheer lunacy when it comes to making fast, fine handling cars.

Th Alpine Renault A110 won the WRC twice in a basically stock form.

The Renault 5 Turbo and Turbo 2 were completely nuts, small mid-engined hatchbacks, but what an engine a 1.4 litre hemi with a Garrett T4/T3 turbo. In road going form these produced about 150bhp, however this was pushed to between 250-350 bhp for the WRC cars, remember the damn thing only weighs about 900kgs.

The Renault Clio Williams is still rated as one of the best handling hot hatches of all time and the current Renaultsport Clio 172 (and forthcoming 182) are very well rated, particularly in the Cup trim.

In the '80's Renault brought out the GTA, a rear engined Porsche 911 rival, that was faster and better handling than the 911's of the day (just a pity the electrics were crap).

They brought out a light weight aluminium chassis, mid engined roadster before Lotus brought out the Elise, in the shape of the Spider.

Then you have the completly barmy Renaultsport Clio V6, now in its second generation with an output of 255bhp and revised chassis and handling set-up.

You should also remeber that Renault has over 100 years of experience at all levels of motorsport, they have won in F1, F2, F3, the Paris-Daker, the WRC, Group N rally championships, Le Mans, Nurburgring 500kms, Sebring 12hrs and various touring car championships.

Personally I think that NIssan and Renault working together on the new GTR is good news, I mean the above is not a bad CV for a car company to work on the design of a performance car and Renault have proven with their management of Nissan to date that they understand and respect the brand values held by Nissan and I'm sure that includes the Skyline/GTR brand.
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Don't forget their highly impressive F1 background too, Scaff.
 
Originally posted by Scaff
Renault has had its moments of sheer lunacy when it comes to making fast, fine handling cars.

Th Alpine Renault A110 won the WRC twice in a basically stock form.

The Renault 5 Turbo and Turbo 2 were completely nuts, small mid-engined hatchbacks, but what an engine a 1.4 litre hemi with a Garrett T4/T3 turbo. In road going form these produced about 150bhp, however this was pushed to between 250-350 bhp for the WRC cars, remember the damn thing only weighs about 900kgs.

The Renault Clio Williams is still rated as one of the best handling hot hatches of all time and the current Renaultsport Clio 172 (and forthcoming 182) are very well rated, particularly in the Cup trim.

In the '80's Renault brought out the GTA, a rear engined Porsche 911 rival, that was faster and better handling than the 911's of the day (just a pity the electrics were crap).

They brought out a light weight aluminium chassis, mid engined roadster before Lotus brought out the Elise, in the shape of the Spider.

Then you have the completly barmy Renaultsport Clio V6, now in its second generation with an output of 255bhp and revised chassis and handling set-up.

You should also remeber that Renault has over 100 years of experience at all levels of motorsport, they have won in F1, F2, F3, the Paris-Daker, the WRC, Group N rally championships, Le Mans, Nurburgring 500kms, Sebring 12hrs and various touring car championships.

Personally I think that NIssan and Renault working together on the new GTR is good news, I mean the above is not a bad CV for a car company to work on the design of a performance car and Renault have proven with their management of Nissan to date that they understand and respect the brand values held by Nissan and I'm sure that includes the Skyline/GTR brand.
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I don't really follow races like WRC, lemans or F1 races, I never really did much research into Renault either. I just hope they make it better than the previous skylines and make it an affordable supercar.
 
Originally posted by chaser_fan
Don't forget their highly impressive F1 background too, Scaff.
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As if I could Chaser_Fan, the third most successful engine manufacturer in the history of Formula One, the are only bettered by Ferrari and Ford.

Add in a couple of wins at LeMans, one WRC championship (with at least 14 event wins), two group N WRC championships and a Paris-Dakar win.

Now the above is just the headline stuff, it would take far to long to list all of them (and to long for me to translate it all from the french book I have ' Histories de victories').
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
I don't really follow races like WRC, lemans or F1 races, I never really did much research into Renault either. I just hope they make it better than the previous skylines and make it an affordable supercar.
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Not sure where in the world you are skylineGTR_guy, but if its the US then you can be excused for not knowing much about Renault.

The last time they had a presence in the US was back in 1982, in a join venture with AMC, Renault for a short period of time had a 47% stake in AMC.

Now for a quick 'pop' quiz, who can tell me what were the two Renault models last sold in the US in 1982. I will accept either the US or Europeon model name.
 
Scaff isnt Renault known for their unreliable cars or is it just one car in perticular.. alot of people agree that not alot of people buy Renaults because they are not as reliable. Is this true? Since you work at Renault im just wondering...
 
Originally posted by rollazn
Scaff isnt Renault known for their unreliable cars or is it just one car in perticular.. alot of people agree that not alot of people buy Renaults because they are not as reliable. Is this true? Since you work at Renault im just wondering...
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The current Renault range has a very similair reliability record to most of the volume manufacturers. Some models are better than others, mainly driven by how long they have been on the market; i.e. the longer, the better the reliability.

This is however fairly true of most non-japanese manufacturers.

You are however right that past Renault models, particularly during the late '70's and '80's, hand reliability issues, mainly with the electrical systems.

Reliability is one of Nissans' strengths and one that Renault want to learn from. Nissans' reliability record has not dropped since Renault tool over, so I have no worries on that side of things for the new GTR.
 
Oh please you guys, they havent even really started developing the car yet. A lot could happen within the next 4 years.
 
Just out of curiosity, has anyone swapped in the engine and/or tranny out of an R34 or older into a new Skyline? That and, is the 35 4wd or Rwd?, I thought it was Rwd, but I heard somewhere that maybe Japan has a 4wd version.
 
The skyline non GT-R verison has a Sedan model and Coupe model well the US does. The Sedan model you can choose between RWD and the new 4WD model that uses the ALTESSA same 4wd system as the GT-R but only produce around 260hp at least the US verison do. The Coupe model the the G35 is only avalible in RWD and pack a 280hp. There is a 4wd G35 though its still non GT-R. I havent heard of any engine swap from the GT-R's to the new skylines.
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
Good because I'd rather have a nissan than an infinity...i mean a sports car is bad enough but if it's an infinity it will be a luxury sports car meaning my ins company could rape me of more of my money....


MORE!

In the Feburary issue of CAR Magazine, "Mr. GTR" Hiroshi Tamura revealed the following information when discussing the GTR project.
"Porsche 993 to 996 was a big step. Ferrari 355 to 360 was a big step. We must make an even bigger leap than that for the next-generation GT-R. What we are saying to customers is, be patient, trust us, we will make it for you".


The GT-R concept has been finalized. The new car will target the 911 Turbo as its primary competitor. The new GT-R will feature a VQ32DETT Twin-Turbo V6 engine. Estimated output will be over 480ps and over 420 lb/ft of torque .
In addition, it will also feature the improve active AWD system. The engine will be developed by a joint venture of Nissan and Cosworth. The new turbo system will feature a electronic Anti-Lag-system. Which means the turbine will be driven by an electic-powered motor when the thottle is lifted. The new chassis will be a brand new one (code: FR-L), which is composed of steel and Aluminum alloy. Suspension will be taken from the current Skyline (G35) with certain improvements made.

I head it was going to be a VQ32DETT....


anyway 2007 is a long way away, I'm sure lots of stuff will change.
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I don't mean to be a little negative on my first post here, but what skylineGTR_guy posted above is almost exactly what I posted over at www.skylinesaustralia.com about 5 months ago...
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20719
 
Yeah... copying and paste works wonder. He didnt say he wrote it. Ive seen that before on another website so i already knew about that information.
 

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