NFL star Michael Vick faces five years in jail

Yep, Manning is compared to Unitas on a regular basis. So yeah. Imagine if Michael Jordan had been caught in something like this during his career? ;
 
Oh, you must mean Kobe.....oh wait.

Actually, I was thinking Mike Tyson.


You must mean the Duke Lacrosse team. That was a pretty open and shut case of guilt right there.......oh wait.

I realize they were guilty of nothing, but it was still a media circus, that was completely unneccessary.


You know, I am going through The Smoking Gun's Web site and having trouble finding all that many black politicians who are arrested at all. I am willing to guess that is because the number of black politicians is so low that you can't make a proper comparison here.

There is always Marion Barry to fall back on.


We could also talk about Michael Jackson, but I have no clue which side of the racial barrier he is on anymore.

Neither does anyone else.


One: It involved dogs, so it tugged at our heart strings. Two: He plays football, which people are always trying to demonize with accusations of teaching violence to our children, and then Vick took part in a violent sport/activities. People jumped on it to point out that this is the kind of person we let our children admire when they watch football. Three: He was supposed to be a good guy, pretty boy, a good face for the NFL and that image was destroyed. This the same problem Kobe had, as he was the face of the NBA, a shining example of a great guy that made the NBA look good.

I'll give you that one, but all the things you hear about Pit Bulls in the media are way less than warm and fuzzy.
And some of my kids have played football. They both are of the firm belief that football players epitomize the term "jackass."
They thought the game itself was ok. The players made the experience suck.


Honestly, there is no race card to pull here. If this had been Peyton Manning instead of Vick the media circus would have been bigger. But that is probably because Peyton Manning can actually throw a ball.

Not like there would have been 10 or 20 years ago, but the disparity does still exist. Granted, we as a society, are pretty sick of all celebrities, regardless of race getting away with the crap they tend to get away with.
I'll admit I was in a mood cause one of my employees was recently stopped and jailed for a case of DWB.
 
So, Vick got five years for not just the abuse, killing, but also for financing, and running the operation? If that was the case, five years sounds reasonable to me.

On Kobe's situation, the girl did not seem credible at all, or her story.
 
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Actually, I was thinking Mike Tyson.
I really think that was an open and shut case. He would have probably gotten off with a slap on the wrist had he not raped a beauty queen. In a case of celebrity vs celebrity someone is going to jail.

I realize they were guilty of nothing, but it was still a media circus, that was completely unneccessary.
You can blame the DA with political aspirations for that. As soon as the media died down he would bring it back up. Fortunately, the farce created by the DA led to his political downfall.

There is always Marion Barry to fall back on.
In the original arrest he was charged with 14 charges, he was only found guilty of one.

The fact that he later continued on his political career in DC, despite various other drug violations, shows that he got away lightly. The voters still elected him (by 96%) to the Ward 8 Council after his prison sentence. I think he did just fine for someone arrested while holding cocaine in his hands, on video.

I'll give you that one, but all the things you hear about Pit Bulls in the media are way less than warm and fuzzy.
There are no bad dogs, just bad owners. Media constantly attacks the dogs and not the owners. I have known a couple of very friendly pit bulls and any dog breeder/trainer can tell you that a pit bull's demeanor is more about the breeding and training than natural tendencies. Take into account that many dog lovers know this fact, despite the media, and that no matter the breed in this case they were treated brutally and people feel sympathy for the dogs. I even heard a sports talk show host saying that he imagines this being done to his dog and it makes him sick. Never once did the breed in question come up, because the media suddenly chose to ignore pit bull stigma in order to say Michael Vick killed dogs. I think probably 75%-80% of the population picture Old Yeller (people cry for him even though he turned violent from rabies) or Lassie or their own pet when someone says dogs, not vicious, trained fighting beasts.

And some of my kids have played football. They both are of the firm belief that football players epitomize the term "jackass."
They thought the game itself was ok. The players made the experience suck.
Well, it is more targeted toward parents that are huge sports fans and idolize players themselves, teaching their kids to idolize them.

I wonder what this guy's kids think of football players.
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Not like there would have been 10 or 20 years ago, but the disparity does still exist.
As long as people look different from one another there will always be disparities. It is human nature to want to feel you are better than others and if skin color is all they have to go on then they will go for it. That doesn't make it right, but some people don't have any form of success in life so they grab at whatever they can. They should be pitied.

Granted, we as a society, are pretty sick of all celebrities, regardless of race getting away with the crap they tend to get away with.
It kind of amazes me how we are all tired of it, yet we all know what is going on. For instance, I couldn't give two farts about what Paris Hilton is doing, or has done, or will do, yet somehow I still managed to know and make jokes about it.

I don't know whether it is that we can't get away from it or curiosity gets the better of us, but when a celebrity does something we all know and then talk about how we don't care.
 
For dogfighting!!!

I'd bet you could stab a person and not get a sentence that long.

Yeah. He is a celebrity. He should be in for probably a few days max. How long was Paris Hilton in for drunk driving or whatever she did the last time? And if a regular person had done it? I bet they would have gotten off with just a fine unless the dogs were using were stolen or something.
 
Worse things happen every day. Vick killed and tortured some dogs. Woo. It doesn't affect anything concerning my life or yours. Who really cares? This whole situation has been ridiculous. I'm surprised we haven't heard that idiot Al Sharpton or his butt buddy Jesse J complaining about how this is all only happening because Vick is black.
 
Yeah. He is a celebrity. He should be in for probably a few days max. How long was Paris Hilton in for drunk driving or whatever she did the last time? And if a regular person had done it? I bet they would have gotten off with just a fine unless the dogs were using were stolen or something.

If a regular person were guilty of what Vick is guilty of, I'd wager on a much much reduced sentence.
 

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