Nissan Silvia Fan Club

Originally posted by RHS13
*sigh*

There are no "silvias" in the US, so don't call them that.
what the hell are you talking about:odd: If a silvia is imported from the japan to the us, it doesnt automaticaly become a 240sx. and if you didnt mean that, there are people who import silvias all the time into america, so there are silvias in america.:rolleyes:
 
Idiots import true Silvias into the United States, yes. But I am pretty sure if he were to buy a car in the US, it would be a 240SX.

You would have to be a fool to pay huge sums of money to have an entire Silvia shipped over from Japan, because 1.) you couldn't drive it on the streets. 2.) you can obtain the same level of performance in a street legal car with a simple engine swap.

Have I seen true Silvias in the US? yes. Do they matter? no.

-Matt
 
Originally posted by RHS13
Idiots import true Silvias into the United States, yes. But I am pretty sure if he were to buy a car in the US, it would be a 240SX.

You would have to be a fool to pay huge sums of money to have an entire Silvia shipped over from Japan
Dude, its somthing called ebay, it may not be new, but its cheaper. to have a silvia, I never said you had to import one your self, all I said was that people import them here all the time, just buy one off of them, and save your self the trouble of importing one yourself, but I completely agree with you on that first car thing you said, about buying it yourself instead of having your parents buy it.
 
You mean crap like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2441225541&category=6396

It will still cost more than a similarly equipped 240SX, not to mention:

Important Disclaimer : This is a RHD (right hand drive) Japanese spec SILVIA. Not 240SX in United states This Unit is for exhibition/demonstration purpose only. It should not be driven on public highways unless you register this vehicle.

what good is a car if you cant drive it. If you want to track or show it, you will need a tow vehicle, tack the price of that onto the already too high cost of the car, and it just doesn't make sense, unless you are an imagewhore or buying a car purely for status, and I hate those people.


-Matt
 
BTW that "Silvia" you posted thats on eBay, is just a converted 240SX, Matt is right there are only 240SX's in the US and it would be stupid to pay all that money to ship one over when you can just convert it. thats what I did, you can find everything JDM for a 240sx, of course its easier when you have one between 1994 and 1998 becuse all you gotta do is swap the motor and emblems, me on the other hand I have to swap the whole front clip, and emblems if I want a "siliva" hehe I even got the JDM roof visors.:D, and emblems, Im still working on getting the front clip.

-Broc

EDIT: that black one you posted, is a converted silvia as well, wanna know the give away?
the trunk key hole, THIS is what the Japanese trunk lock looks like.
 
I dont know much about cars...sorry...im wanting a car that looks similar to the 240...anything similar...i love that car...i dont want to rice it out...i just want a body kit and nice wheels...maybe some sponser stickers but no decals or ground effects or anything stupid thing like that...
 
i dont know much about cars either but i know i like the silvia and im not really thinkin about gettin one first of all bcuz im only 15 and second of all bcuz im thinkin of startin out with a hooptie
 
RHS13: you CAN drive an imported silvia on the street, just not legally.



canyouhearmenow: buy an american s13 240sx, or an s14 if you can afford it. but he's right, pay for it yourself, or have your parents cosign on a loan with you. or if yur not 18 yet, ask yur parents to take out a loan, and then pay it all back. you'll feel much better about yurself.

i have 3 new picks of my own RHS13 on my cardomain site, http://members.cardomain.com/jeff7

=]
 
I own a 96 240sx & a 03 wrx and driving my 240 feels like a can really out handle my wrx with the SR in there.I have incountered understeer in my Rex. So for the price of the 240 ($9,000) + ($2,500For SR20DET) compared to the WRX ($24,000 and still paying off) i think the 240sx is better in overall performance bcuz i can even beat lil guppies in their nsx's. Its like what do u see compete more in the JGTC ? A silvia/240sx or a Impreza ? Also i was wonder were any knows were i can find a SR20VET? Bcuz i already found a SR20VE for $1000-$2500. Incase u don't know what a SR20VET is.The VE (Neo VVL) series of engines is Nissan's answer to Honda's VTEC. The two systems are nearly identical. They use the same concept of multiple cam lobes to provide a low rpm cam ideal for torque and a high rpm cam optimized for hp. The only difference in the Nissan system is that the intake and exhaust cams are triggered indepedently for a flatter, more consistent power band. You can read more about the VTEC system here.

How many different VE motors are there?
There are five (5) VE motors.
SR16VE - 173hp 5 speed Manual 97-2001
SR16VE N1 - 197hp 5 speed Manual 97-98
SR20VE - 187hp CVT 6 speed Auto 97-2001
SR20VE - 204hp 6 speed Manual 2001-Present
SR20VET - 276hp AWD Turbo 2002-Present

How much power does the VE have?
SR16VE - 173hp @ 7800rpm / 119lb torque @ 7200rpm
SR16VE N1 - 197hp @ 7800rpm / 134lb torque @ 7600rpm
SR20VE - 187hp @ 7000rpm / 145lb torque @ 6000rpm
SR20VET - 276hp @ 6400rpm / 228lb torque @ 3200rpm

How much do they cost?
SR16VE - $1000-$1600
SR16VE N1 - $3000+ good luck finding one*
SR20VE - $1000-$2500
SR20VET - looking for one!!*Only 500 of these engines are thought to have been produced.
**These are average prices based on availability and engine condition. Actual prices may vary.

What are the origins of these motors?
SR16VE - 1.6L VVL motor found in the Nissan Sunny Lucino VZ-R, Sunny GT and Pulsar VZ-R.
SR16VE N1 - 1.6L VVL motor found in the Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1 and Pulsar VZ-R N1 SSS.
SR20VE - 2.0L VVL motor found in the Nissan Primera (Infiniti G20 bodystyle), Bluebird, Wingroad, and Autobacs Garaiya.
SR20VET - 2.0L turbocharged VVL motor found in the Nissan X-Trail SUV, and Trailrunner Concept Car.

** Thank-you to Christopher Skaggs, aka "AztekSE-R", for providing this engine information. More info can be found here.

Where can I buy one?
Andreas Miko in Miami, FL (305) 282-3643
sr20development in CA (619) 69-TURBO
JGY Customs in VA (540) 379-1848
Yuji Ueno at MotoGumi Partners (626) 437-2058
Storm Performance in CA (925) 895-9793 & FL (954) 987-7355
Soko Engines (800) 338-7656 or (800) 598-3535

How difficult is installing a VE?
In a B13 I the install should be similar to that of a B14 with the only exception being the wiring of the distributor and ignition coil. Hopefully someone will provide the specific wiring instructions for a B13 and we will append the FAQ.

In a B14 the install is very straightforward. The only additonal changes necessary are rewiring the distributor and one additional 2-wire harness. You also need to wire the two VVL solenoids. Instructions for wiring the distributor can be found here. Information about RPM triggers can be found here.

The DE transmission bolts right onto the VE. In fact many of the DE items are a direct VE bolt on. They share the same block design.

Steve Foltz, aka "98sr20ve", created a fantastic install resource with pictures of installation in his '98 SE which you can view here.

I need some parts for my VE, do you have parts codes?
13020 1N503 SR16VE intake cam
13020 1N509 SR16VE exhaust cam
11044 1N500 SR20VE head gasket
12200 2J200 SR20VE crankshaft
13500 1N501 SR20VE front cover and oil pump
14036 1N500 SR20VE exhaust manifold gasket
16600 1N500 SR20VE fuel injectors
21010 53J03 SR20VE water pump
22100 1N510 SR20VE distributor
22157 1N510 SR20VE distributor rotor
22162 1N511 SR20VE distributor cap
22401 1N516 SR20VE NGK BKR6E-N spark plugs
22680 5J000 SR20VE MAF (mass air flow sensor)
13020 8H600 SR20VET intake cam yes the turbo cams!
13020 8H610 SR20VET exhaust cam
*These are JDM Nissan part numbers and will not come up in your local dealerships computers. Some dealers have connections to get them, such as Courtesy Nissan in Texas and SR20Development in California. Call them for prices.
**Here is a link for many additional VE part numbers.

Where can I get headers and other JDM stuff for my new VE?
JDM Spec Performance Good site for aftermarket JDM.

What modifications can I perform to make my VE faster?
You can use the standard SR20DE exhaust such as Greddy, HKS, etc. and CAI (cold air induction) like the AEM, Hotshot or Place Racing.

A standard DE header will choke the VE as there is about 1/8"-1/4" overlap on the exhaust ports on the VE. Hotshot is currently developing a VE specific header to resolve this issue. Fujitsubo and Impul in Japan also make headers specifically for the VE. Jim Schumacher, "Shoes59", currently has a Fujitsubo header on his VE and will be sharing dyno results in the near future.

Other options include installing SR16VE cams in the SR20VE for a guesstimated increase of 18 crank HP. If you are an SR16VE owner you can install a 2001 Nissan SE 4 counterweight crank with new rods and pistons to increase displacement to 2.0L. Specifics on the rods and pistons are currently being tested and we will provide more information as it is available.

What kind of 1/4 mile time can I expect with an SR20VE?
Average 1/4 mile times for a full interior SR20VE powered SE-R are 13.8 - 14.2. Forum member "bigtom" currently has the fastest known SR20VE running a 12.8!!
 

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yes please!! i've looked all over even just to find pics of the motor!! went on nissan x-trial gt websites and all!!:banghead:


another SR20VE pic....
 

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Yeah thats it, I'm getting this motor, I'm not gonna be another sheep and get the SR20DET. I've heard of the NEOVVL system but I thought it was only in the new skylines (Infinity G35).

I've been trying to find a turbo model of it but I was gonna ask if they even make one.

And you said just about any part you can put an the SR20DET will fit the SR20VET? Because if it does couldnt you just buy a turbo kit for an SR20DET and bolt it on.

Well I e-mailed Ricky Chu asking him if he knew anything about the motor and hopefully he'll help me out a little.
 
well It looks like you have.... umm.... money



As for the SR20VE, It looks like fine swap...



...for a sentra


You guys do realize that some S14 and S15 SR20DET engines had variable valve timing. And they already have everything ready to bolt up to a RWD car.

as for originality, its an SR engine:lol: how is that any different


In my OPINION, variable valve timing is overrated in performance applications. In racing you should spend all of your time in the powerband, which would obviously be on the upper cam profile, so it would save alot of tuning time to just run a more aggressive cam. I have seen way too many S2k drivers' cars get real twitchy when the vtec switches over at autocross.

-Matt
 
Originally posted by RHS13

As for the SR20VE, It looks like fine swap...

...for a sentra


-Matt

Nicely put i was thinking that myself

As for me having money well all i can say is that i know what is important
 
Originally posted by GF3
btw to let you know i did everything from the rh conversion to the swap my self. i have the pics to prove it


Why would you bother wasting the time and money to do a RHD swap? It's not like it's original or anything as it's been done hundreds of times before.
I also don't like your body kit or wheels, but the engine work looks good so...👍 on that.


-Mark
 
Originally posted by Ethix101
Why would you bother wasting the time and money to do a RHD swap? It's not like it's original or anything as it's been done hundreds of times before.
I also don't like your body kit or wheels, but the engine work looks good so...👍 on that.


-Mark

First off you are WRONG a rhd swap has not been done hundreds of times. and to ask why i would want to do that is like asking anyone why they would want to pimp out a car? That was the next level for me. and the body kit is Veilside it might has to much class for your taistes but that is fine. there is no substitute to quality fiberglass kits. and wheels well i guess your right on that racing harts are crap......not

i am sorry if i took your post wrong and you are not taking shots at my car, but your the first person to ever wonder why i would waiste my time on the rhdc.

-HAVE A NICE DAY
 
Originally posted by GF3
First off you are WRONG a rhd swap has not been done hundreds of times. and to ask why i would want to do that is like asking anyone why they would want to pimp out a car? That was the next level for me. and the body kit is Veilside it might has to much class for your taistes but that is fine. there is no substitute to quality fiberglass kits. and wheels well i guess your right on that racing harts are crap......not

i am sorry if i took your post wrong and you are not taking shots at my car, but your the first person to ever wonder why i would waiste my time on the rhdc.

-HAVE A NICE DAY


Argg.. I just wrote a long reply and my cable went out and it didn't work. Here's a quick version.

First, I wasn't taking shots at your car. I was merely stating my opinion which is something you were probably expecting when you posted the pictures.

Second, I see RHD conversions all the time on 240sx's, Civics, Integras, etc, all the time, so it's not really all that rare.
I just can't see the advantage of converting a car to RHD if you're going to drive on the right side of the road. Drive-Thrus or tolls are going to be a pain in the ass with RHD and that's not even mentioning the difficulties in daily driving. To give you an example : If you're driving behind a large truck that's going really slow, you can't look around it to see if there's traffic coming so you can pass because you're sitting on the wrong side of the car.
The only real reason I can see for doing the conversion is the "bling" factor..the "Oh **** that car's right hand drive!" factor.

As for the comments about the body kit and wheels..I just don't like them. I think Veilside makes some of the ugliest kits in the world. I definitely wouldn't call them "classy" as you put it. They're just expensive. I also never said there was anything wrong with Racing Hart. I just don't like those specific Racing Hart wheels. Aside from looking fairly heavy, the offset doesn't look right for a RWD car. You could definitely fit wider/lower offset wheels in the back and probably even the front so it would be close to flush with the fenders. Let me guess..those are probably +35 or +40 offset wheels in the back? You should get some 17x9.5 with +30 offset for the back. Those would look badass.

Anyway, as I said before, I like what you've done with the engine. I also like what you've done with the interior (aside from the RHD). You should definitely post a list of what you've done to the engine and suspension. It's hard to tell from the picture what engine work you've done and I can't see the suspension either from the pictures. That's the most important part anyway. :D


-Mark
 
and GF3, if it started off as a 240sx, it still is =\

you may have done alot of work to it to make it look and perform like a silvia, but its still a 240. good job though! i hope to convert my 91 RHS13 to RHD eventually...like in a couple of years when i can afford it and am done with suspension and engine mods.
 
Hello, I am of Chile and buys a Nissan 200SX S13 recently to me year 92 with motor CA18DET, the car was burned and now I am painting it and leaving it like new, queria to request to them thank you very much that they help me to choose an Spoiler to put to him, Translated by altavista
 
Count me in! I love Silvias. I'm thinking about getting an S14 240SX and putting an SR20DET in it. I saw a sweet 240sx w/ SR20DET swap in Sport Compact Car and it is my insipiration. I also am planning to do some suspension mods and some other engine mods and bolt-ons.:)
 
BTW GF3, I really applaud your ability to do an engine swap and RHD conversion, and think the engine swap is really cool. I see why you would want and RHD, so people will think you have a real Silvia imported from Japan. However, no offense, but it seems a little pointless to make your car harder to drive. I know for a fact that there are several companies, such as Skyline Motors, that specialize in LHD conversions for JDM cars. So, even some people w/ real imported cars still may get it converted. It's a pretty cool mod and it makes it seem more realistic, but I'm not really sure that it's worth all the time and money to have trouble driving it. But its your car and you do whatever you want with it and we will stand behind your right to customize.:D
 
I see all of you points againt the rhd but for me i love it. one thing you need to realize is that this is not a daily driver. i do not drive this car all the time. so i havn't run into any problems with it. It was more to make my car stand out from the rest. but i thank you for your compliments.
 
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