Nordschleife Lap Times
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Category: Tuned Cars (Street Legal)
06:57.768 - Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera (Disavowed) NEW (Fully tuned - SS Tires)
Category: Racing/Non-Production Vehicles (ALL STOCK)
06:02.480 - Bentley Speed 8 Race Car '03 (Disavowed) NEW
Should be able to shave off at least another couple seconds off if I put more time into it... wasn't a very clean run.
06:57.768 - Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera (Disavowed) NEW (Fully tuned - SS Tires)
Category: Racing/Non-Production Vehicles (ALL STOCK)
06:02.480 - Bentley Speed 8 Race Car '03 (Disavowed) NEW
Should be able to shave off at least another couple seconds off if I put more time into it... wasn't a very clean run.
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- 7,594
- Ontario,Canada
- macospet1
- My What?
Racing/Non-Production
06:18.092- Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car #91 '00 (Mac K) BEATEN
I hate racing softs.. But I just wanted to get new time up here..
Race/Non-Production Stock:
08:31.307- Volkswagen Lupo GTI Cup Car (J) '03 (Mac K) BEATEN
oh and this for my fellow Ringers to enjoy
06:18.092- Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car #91 '00 (Mac K) BEATEN
I hate racing softs.. But I just wanted to get new time up here..
Race/Non-Production Stock:
08:31.307- Volkswagen Lupo GTI Cup Car (J) '03 (Mac K) BEATEN
oh and this for my fellow Ringers to enjoy
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- 7,594
- Ontario,Canada
- macospet1
- My What?
Production Stock:
07:55.746- Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R34) '99 (Mac K) BEATEN
Racing/Non-Production Stock:
06:41.706- Lexus Eneos SC430 '08 (Mac K) NEW
Racing/Non-Production:
07:02.706- Opera Performance S2000 '04 (Mac K) BEATEN
06:25.458- 2010 Joey Logano #20 Camry (Mac K) BEATEN
Theres still some time left in the Camry, but that'll do for now.
07:55.746- Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R34) '99 (Mac K) BEATEN
Racing/Non-Production Stock:
06:41.706- Lexus Eneos SC430 '08 (Mac K) NEW
Racing/Non-Production:
07:02.706- Opera Performance S2000 '04 (Mac K) BEATEN
06:25.458- 2010 Joey Logano #20 Camry (Mac K) BEATEN
Theres still some time left in the Camry, but that'll do for now.
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- 1,057
- Nor*Cal
- PutItInH
Phenomenal times folks, really. I just got back behind the wheel after a bit of a break from GT5 and bested one of my own times (by nearly 3 seconds, too), but have yet to tackle some of the faster cars.
Production Stock:
07:50.983 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR P.P. '07 (DDAAVVIIDD82)
Production Stock:
07:50.983 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR P.P. '07 (DDAAVVIIDD82)
- 2,200
- montreal,canada
- GTP_Mike_Peperni / Mike_Peperni
Awesome! Thanks! 👍
Just one little thing, in the Open section, there are 2 entries for the Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car. Both are mine. If you'd be so kind as to remove the slower entry (of course
)... Thanks!
Category: Tuned Cars (Street Legal)
07:01.689 - Suzuki GSX-R/4 Concept '01 (Disavowed) NEW (Fully Tuned - SS Tires)
This car drives like a dream. A true driver's car!
Category: Tuned Cars (Open)
06:07.309 - Nissan GT-R N24 Shulze Motorsport '11 (Disavowed) NEW (Fully tuned - RS Tires)
A 1505kg car that can drive like this?! This thing defies the laws of physics! I drove this thing like I stole it and it just flew! Understeer? No problem, just mash the throttle.... Oversteer? No problem, just mash the throttle...
07:01.689 - Suzuki GSX-R/4 Concept '01 (Disavowed) NEW (Fully Tuned - SS Tires)
This car drives like a dream. A true driver's car!
Category: Tuned Cars (Open)
06:07.309 - Nissan GT-R N24 Shulze Motorsport '11 (Disavowed) NEW (Fully tuned - RS Tires)
A 1505kg car that can drive like this?! This thing defies the laws of physics! I drove this thing like I stole it and it just flew! Understeer? No problem, just mash the throttle.... Oversteer? No problem, just mash the throttle...
- 5,668
- Edison NJ
- jdmking13
- Lucid killer 58
Are you guys using ABS or not? I am sorry but ABS makes driving during braking very unrealistic in GT5. I know we already are playing a game so your going to take turns as fast as possible but the ABS in GT5 makes the average racer look like Takiums dad during braking. I would love to know who is using ABS and who is not for I want to compete against the non abs drivers.
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- GTP_Spag69
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JDMKING13
What about cars that have a legitimate claim for ABS? How do they fare?
- 5,668
- Edison NJ
- jdmking13
- Lucid killer 58
Guys please don't think I am trying to come off as a bad guy. If you ask the people around here I try to make my gaming experience in GT5/FM4 as real as possible. So when you say cars that have ABS in real life and you mimic that in GT5 I completely understand this. I use to do it also however I always felt in my heart something is wrong, ABS does not feel like this in RL. I am glad to have FM4 because it gives you another aspect of gaming. For those fortunate enough to have both system and games please drive the same car in FM4 and GT5 and test the braking. FM4 ABS system is much better than GT5 ABS 1 for the fact of you see feel/see evidence of the tires breaking traction on the track while ABS is engage. In GT5 ABS 1 will leave NO marks on the track. It feels as its the perfect ABS system never giving out but holding the optimum braking force. Not only that under terrible braking technique ABS 1 doesn't make you pay. It feels as if its has the ASM still on and that something is keeping you straight.
This is what kills me so what I did was come on GTP to get the opinions of the people who are not just trying to be fast but get a realistic experience doing so. What I found was many people feeling like me and turning the ABS off and tuning the brake balance of the car. Once I did this it was like playing a new GT5. I could not longer dive into corners or drive with bad technique. I have even the feeling now to heel toe to keep the rpm up during braking and I can feel the tires better also. So even though it kills me to turn off ABS for every car at least I get a true feeling of that specific car now. Even turning the ABS off with the correct brake balance it feels more like ABS then ABS 1 does. I have a select few of buddies who can drive very fast with ABS off and if you ever want to join us I can guarantee you will notice a true difference in the race compared with ABS 1 on. 👍 Your ring times will drop dramatically and if you don't believe me please join my room and we can do test, it will be a blast!
- 5,814
- Hillsboro Oregon
- XDesperado67
- XDesperado67
Not looking to start a fight here but I find ABS1 to be no more unrealistic than trying to brake in the game without it.
Real life ABS works wonders stoping cars faster and more controlably than the majority of drivers can, that's why almost all cars come with it now. It's because of its benefits that many real life race series don't allow it, not because the drivers are so much better without it.
How you want to drive in game is up to you but please don't get all superior about how not using ABS means your more realistic and superior to those who use it.
Only real discussion should be about if it should be used on cars that didn't have it in real life. Then I can see some sense in the argument.
I don't use TC on 99% of the cars I drive in game, not because its "unreal" but because I'm faster without it. In real life many cars have had some form of traction control for years and in most of them there is no way to get rid of it (nor would you want to) without rebuilding the suspension and drivetrain.
We choose what works for us in the game and allows us to have fun. Many people are faster than me even if they drive with no aids at all, but that is their choice. The OP for this thread states what is legal to use and the conditions for setting lap times. As long as people follow those rules it shouldn't matter what they set their times with.
Sorry for the rant, but I keep seeing this subject pop up and it irritates me. Other than posting an occasional lap time for a tuned street car I'm never going to be setting or breaking any records here. I'm slow but I have fun and I enjoy seeing some of the amazing times the regulars post here.
Now I'm going to go hop back in my 100% stock I-Miev with my ABS1 and driving line on and see if I can figure out how to shave that last 45 seconds off my lap time to break the current record!
Real life ABS works wonders stoping cars faster and more controlably than the majority of drivers can, that's why almost all cars come with it now. It's because of its benefits that many real life race series don't allow it, not because the drivers are so much better without it.
How you want to drive in game is up to you but please don't get all superior about how not using ABS means your more realistic and superior to those who use it.
Only real discussion should be about if it should be used on cars that didn't have it in real life. Then I can see some sense in the argument.
I don't use TC on 99% of the cars I drive in game, not because its "unreal" but because I'm faster without it. In real life many cars have had some form of traction control for years and in most of them there is no way to get rid of it (nor would you want to) without rebuilding the suspension and drivetrain.
We choose what works for us in the game and allows us to have fun. Many people are faster than me even if they drive with no aids at all, but that is their choice. The OP for this thread states what is legal to use and the conditions for setting lap times. As long as people follow those rules it shouldn't matter what they set their times with.
Sorry for the rant, but I keep seeing this subject pop up and it irritates me. Other than posting an occasional lap time for a tuned street car I'm never going to be setting or breaking any records here. I'm slow but I have fun and I enjoy seeing some of the amazing times the regulars post here.
Now I'm going to go hop back in my 100% stock I-Miev with my ABS1 and driving line on and see if I can figure out how to shave that last 45 seconds off my lap time to break the current record!
- 7,594
- Ontario,Canada
- macospet1
- My What?
ManuelosAnyone wants to have a look in their garage? Does the "Buick Special '62" come with Sports hard or Sports soft tyres? Mine has both but I don't know which one's are standard.
Some new times comming up this weekend
Sports soft I'm pretty sure.
- 476
- SoCal
- Obsidian-2
- 476
- SoCal
- Obsidian-2
- 5,668
- Edison NJ
- jdmking13
- Lucid killer 58
Not looking to start a fight here but I find ABS1 to be no more unrealistic than trying to brake in the game without it.
Real life ABS works wonders stoping cars faster and more controlably than the majority of drivers can, that's why almost all cars come with it now. It's because of its benefits that many real life race series don't allow it, not because the drivers are so much better without it.
How you want to drive in game is up to you but please don't get all superior about how not using ABS means your more realistic and superior to those who use it.
Only real discussion should be about if it should be used on cars that didn't have it in real life. Then I can see some sense in the argument.
I don't use TC on 99% of the cars I drive in game, not because its "unreal" but because I'm faster without it. In real life many cars have had some form of traction control for years and in most of them there is no way to get rid of it (nor would you want to) without rebuilding the suspension and drivetrain.
We choose what works for us in the game and allows us to have fun. Many people are faster than me even if they drive with no aids at all, but that is their choice. The OP for this thread states what is legal to use and the conditions for setting lap times. As long as people follow those rules it shouldn't matter what they set their times with.
Sorry for the rant, but I keep seeing this subject pop up and it irritates me. Other than posting an occasional lap time for a tuned street car I'm never going to be setting or breaking any records here. I'm slow but I have fun and I enjoy seeing some of the amazing times the regulars post here.
Now I'm going to go hop back in my 100% stock I-Miev with my ABS1 and driving line on and see if I can figure out how to shave that last 45 seconds off my lap time to break the current record!
Whoa buddy Yes you are ranting What I said is no different than a guy spending extra money on his pedals to get a realistic pedal feel.Then sharing his reason on GTP on why he doesn't like a certain pedals. In no way shape or form did I dismiss any body using abs 1 and for your information I use ABS 1 when the car and the situations applies, so before you go off on you RANT understand the situation. Second I clearly stated I was looking for people setting times with no ABS so I can compete with them. What the problem is that this is my gaming style and I wanted to share it with the folks hot lapping on one of my favorite tracks. I recently help a fellow GTP user with his theme and we had to use ABS and it was no problem and a fun experience. So don't come at me with i'm trying to be better than people crap i'm just trying to find the people who times are with no abs. All I did was share my opinion why I personally don't like the ABS system in GT5. Also if you read my league thread specific cars in my league are allowed to use ABS 1 so again whats your point?
Not with the correct brake bias all you have to do is look at some of the league around here race rules. I have Fanatec CSR so my experience might be different from yours. Again all i'm looking for are for the people who set times with no abs so i can compare.
No and no.
Braking unrealistic? Well, there are two things... default brake balance and ABS. Those things are unrealistic but can be fixed.
I use 2/0 for some old cars with drum brakes and no ABS and 4-2 or 3/1 for cars without ABS. 5/4 for top class cars (Ferraris, Lambos etc) and 4/3 for others with ABS.
Just cut down the brake balance and you won experience lockups (if you know what you're doing).
Also, I have ClubSport Pedals so I have feedback on my brake pedal as if I'd have in real life, so I'm fine with that aspect too.
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Does the game send feedback to the ClubSport pedals? I was unaware there was force feedback to the pedals ...
Using a G27 and DFGT, braking is extremely unrealistic compared to a real car. In a car you use brake feel to judge how much pressure to apply; in GT5 you basically make a guess at how much brake pressure to apply. Other than damage, braking is the most unrealistic part of GT5.
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- Hillsboro Oregon
- XDesperado67
- XDesperado67
@JDMKING13
Sorry wasn't trying to attack you there which is why I didn't quote your post. As I stated I've seen quite a few similar posts about ABS or TC or what have you and they almost invariably end up with the poster claiming the superiority of their chosen style of play.
Again I apologize if I seemed to be attacking you.
You brought up a good point in your last post though about different controlers and claims about them. I'm wondering if your experience with ABS is in part at least due to your wheel/pedal setup. Personally I'm stuck driving with a DS3 (sensitivity set to 7) and I can tell you I've left plenty of black marks all over tracks with ABS1. Oh and I use the right thumbstick as throttle/brake instead of any of the buttons or triggers.
Might be interesting for a top GT5 driver who had access to several different wheel/controler setups to do a comparison of the effects of the different driving aids using them.
Again sorry wasn't trying to attack you.
Peace:tup:👍
Remember as Harvey Wallbanger always says...
Drive hard and have fun!
Sorry wasn't trying to attack you there which is why I didn't quote your post. As I stated I've seen quite a few similar posts about ABS or TC or what have you and they almost invariably end up with the poster claiming the superiority of their chosen style of play.
Again I apologize if I seemed to be attacking you.
You brought up a good point in your last post though about different controlers and claims about them. I'm wondering if your experience with ABS is in part at least due to your wheel/pedal setup. Personally I'm stuck driving with a DS3 (sensitivity set to 7) and I can tell you I've left plenty of black marks all over tracks with ABS1. Oh and I use the right thumbstick as throttle/brake instead of any of the buttons or triggers.
Might be interesting for a top GT5 driver who had access to several different wheel/controler setups to do a comparison of the effects of the different driving aids using them.
Again sorry wasn't trying to attack you.
Peace:tup:👍
Remember as Harvey Wallbanger always says...
Drive hard and have fun!
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