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[Fazerfan]

Lets stay ontopic guys.

I haven't checked yet, II have to go to school, I don't even wan't to check!
If you have been banned, vent our your anger here (within the forums guidelines)

 

[MiuraSV777]

Good luck finding their e-mail address 👍
But you can try to contact Sony and ask.

If only getting PD to communicate directly with their playerbase was that easy.

I dunno, I just wish PD would actually communicate properly with the players more often. Set up a blog (Or rather use the one they already have), allow comments, get one English speaking/writing employee to manage it, one hour a week. I don't think it's too much to ask.

Ya, it re-directed me to playstations 'contact us' section... Playstations contact section didnt help either .... Maybe Ill try to find kaz's email or something like that

 

[C_Raccoon23]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cheating

1: to deprive of something valuable by the use of deceit or fraud
2: to influence or lead by deceit, trick, or artifice
3: to elude or thwart by or as if by outwitting <cheat death>

#2 sure seems applicable to all this car modifying. So I would call it cheating.

I myself could care less what people do to their saved data for private use. What I do dislike is the possibility that these modifications leak into honest online competitions. Even worse is the suspicion that follows with it. It ruins the fun of those that want to compete honestly by placing them into doubt of having lost due to lack of speed, or because someone decided to manipulate the game files.

What everyone forgets is the greater consequence of all this modifying that PD could face. Some companies place great constraints on their licenses, for example Ferrari only allowing F1 cars to be race-able against F1 cars. Now I don't know the license requirements of each license PD has acquired, but actions like this may cause license distributors to deny PD future licenses because their property is being misused.

I don't understand why so many believe GT5 is dull without modding. There are so many possibilities available in GT5, there is no way even I in all my years of playing have had the chance to race all the cars in different environments. People demand DLCs, changes to game physics, and many other things. Why is it that this younger gamer generation is so spoiled on their game content...has everyone forgotten how to make the best out of what is delivered?

The customization in this game blows and PD could have done better on that, as well as other things. There's a couple of reasons. And please stop it with these generalizations. I'm 20. Not sure if that qualifies as the "younger gamer generation" or not, but my first game system was the Super Nintendo and I still play older video games all the time, so I'm definitely not spoiled given how limited video games were back then compared to now.

 

[Samus]

It's not the people who are labeled, it's the phenomenon.
Perhaps the proper wording should be: "Hybrid cars allow for cheating".

It's also the incorrect use of the word hybrid in some cases as well. Yes a lot of the changes could fall under that term but giving a car 100hp more than it can ordinarily and slapping racing super soft tyres on it doesn't create a hybrid, just a hacked car.

 

[Samus]

Kaz is on twitter and Facebook but 90% of them time he just uses them to talk about his personal stuff. Nothing wrong with that of course, the man is entitled to a personal life but they need a company line as well.

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

A realistic hybrid!

 

[Lock2Lock]

You've gathered that how, exactly?

It seems that that is actually true. According to many people on the websites where the hybriding programs are at. There has been many people stating that they had been the reason that they were banned because some people didn't do the time/drift trials and they are banned.

Whether you know anything about hybrids/hybridding or not is irrelevant - hybrids are just not meant to be part of this game.

You cannot say an indepth knowledge of hybridding (and the use thereof) gives a person any ground that is higher than someone who has scant knowledge of hybridding. To know whether something is meant to be in the game or not is fairly key.

"Cheating" is too harsh a word also - but it does apply to TT & DT events where a hybrid has been used.

As for off-line - well, if you really need a 50,000bhp Fiat 500 to win the Clubman Cup, then that speaks for itself

Also customizing vehicles - engine swaps & drivetrains etc is great:tup: - and very attractive to me, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's not in the game.

funny how eager people are to make excuses. Like i said offline is ok. Use it any way you like its still cheat/hack - PD didnt make it like that. I understand your point - I would also like to mix and match the cars in GT, but that should be kept strictly offline until PD supports the editor. I think they could actually do just that and make "hybrids allowed" -tab to room settings. 💡 if the hybrids have valid comparable PPs that is.

I get what you guys are saying. Believe me i do. I understand that these cars should not be in the online ranked seasonal events. That is cheating. To me cheating in this case is to use a item to gain a unfair advantage. Which a lot of people are actually not doing. Like i have said before I drift. And pretty much every drift lobby/pretty much the whole community likes them too and has no problem with them as long as they are on the realistic/real life examples.

All i was getting at is it is getting old with people jumping into these threads saying "i hope they get banned and everyone's accounts/saves are gone" ect. Then you have the people that actually admit when they are using them whether in drifting, racing, or even in cruising online. Which in my book is not in any way "cheating". I am not making excuses. I just want to make people very aware that not everyone is dishonest and wants to actually cheat.

I hope you get what I was saying now.

 

[Ills1999]

Ummm no it is actually what PD uses. Believe me or not I have been explaining this before. The power limiter is obvious that it is that too. Me and others have posted what i have said about the grip and power multiplier many times before in many other threads. Believe it or not it is what it is.

Like I said. It's what 'users' have used to explain what PD is doing, through observation. I've not seen any PD confirm this.

Or are you saying you are examining code?

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Grip multiplier base value for almost all cars is 100 - it's a base value for any tire fitted, as such, any changes to grip multiplier will alter PP as well. You can have a stock car with comfort hard, the default base grip multiplier value will still 100, same thing if it's fitted with racing soft. You can achieve grip level of racing soft when comfort hard is fitted by altering grip multiplier value from let's say 100 default to 150 ( 1.5 times more ) -- this increases PP a lot.

My Camaro RM with around 550+PP on RH has added 2.5 times grip multiplier, and the PP increases to 800+ and it's insane, the car will roll over even on low speed corner, it messes with tire physics Good value would be less than 130 ( 1.3 times ) - this will still increase a lot of PP that will hit the HP, weight and downforce. I tried 103 ( 1.03 times ) and it gives 5 PP increase on another car - the added grip gives not much cornering speed as it will only allow a bit more max cornering G's on the tire.

Grip multiplier = tire G's modifier.

I made a Formula 3 replica from FGT with 197HP, no downforce front/back, grip multiplier set at 70 ( 0.7 times ) and SH tires, it drives and grip like what a Formula 3 would in real life. GT5 gives too much aero and mechanical grip on FGT. It has been used at GTP's Deadnutseven race too Shows how much some of the sports and racing tires in GT5 is too grippy and unrealistic

I also tried to reduce comfort hard grip on classic car like Lotus Elan - used 80 grip multiplier ( 0.8 times ) and it grips fine, grip multiplier can be used to fine tune tire grip to realistic level - maybe closer to other driving sim - anyone who have experience with Iracing should try to replicate the MX5 grip level on GT5

 

[murphsmoose]

Whether you know anything about hybrids/hybridding or not is irrelevant - hybrids are just not meant to be part of this game.

You cannot say an indepth knowledge of hybridding (and the use thereof) gives a person any ground that is higher than someone who has scant knowledge of hybridding. To know whether something is meant to be in the game or not is fairly key.

"Cheating" is too harsh a word also - but it does apply to TT & DT events where a hybrid has been used.

As for off-line - well, if you really need a 50,000bhp Fiat 500 to win the Clubman Cup, then that speaks for itself

Also customizing vehicles - engine swaps & drivetrains etc is great:tup: - and very attractive to me, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's not in the game.

here here well said

Well one thing to bear in mind is 5.5 million of those copies were bought in the first two weeks. https://www.gtplanet.net/5-5-million-copies-of-gt5-sold-series-tops-60-million/

How many of those were still playing after even six months?

meaningless info

 

[Lock2Lock]

Like I said. It's what 'users' have used to explain what PD is doing, through observation. I've not seen any PD confirm this.

Or are you saying you are examining code?

I did answer your but i guess I went too far in my explanation for the answer to your question. So my post was deleted.

Like i said in that post sorry if that was too much information. Thanks to the moderator for deleting my post. Sorry about that. Thanks again

 

[arora]

meaningless info

We were discussing how many people who own gt5 have hybrids, how many active players have them, and how many active online players have them. The reason being lots of people like to say x% of gt5'rs are using them etc.

So it's not meaningless entirely but if you are saying that number(whatever it is) should not effect PD's decision on banning etc, I agree.

 

[TwIsTeD_83]

If you think that GT5 was "stale" and "boring" before and with the hacked cars it became fun and exciting take your GT5 disc and throw it out of the window then go out and buy a burnout game.
And yes I have used the x1 to get from 38 to 40.

 

[Skuh]

So funny watching people get angry that another person has broken a completely separate companies ToS.
Lmao, is something missing in your life?

No, I don't have any hybrids.

 

[Dan]

meaningless info

Just like every single one of your posts.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Whether you know anything about hybrids/hybridding or not is irrelevant - hybrids are just not meant to be part of this game.

You cannot say an indepth knowledge of hybridding (and the use thereof) gives a person any ground that is higher than someone who has scant knowledge of hybridding. To know whether something is meant to be in the game or not is fairly key.

"Cheating" is too harsh a word also - but it does apply to TT & DT events where a hybrid has been used.

As for off-line - well, if you really need a 50,000bhp Fiat 500 to win the Clubman Cup, then that speaks for itself

Also customizing vehicles - engine swaps & drivetrains etc is great:tup: - and very attractive to me, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's not in the game.

It is extremely relevant. As a 20 year veteran of the game industry (google me if you like), it's common to have to deal with reality versus the perception we create for gamers. This modding movement, because that's all it is, is currently suffering from a clash between perception and reality.

There is no "part swap". That is not what is happening. Modders are RANGE swapping. There are no aluminum blocks or race motors anything of the like. There are different torque and hp numbers. There are no race suspensions, just adjustment ranges.

The closest thing to a part swap is the chassis swap because they affect things that the player can't really deal with like chassis stiffness.

Bubble bursting time: Every car is just a collection of values in a range.

I've had to support mod communities in the past and there is a problem with cheaters versus modders. Grip modifying isn't cheating, because there are checks and balances in place. SUPER SOFT RACING TIRES is what I suspect to be the true problem and that is cheating for sure.

If you mod a car, you are still within the boundaries of the game. You've simply created a new car that is no different than any other car in the game. A mod car does not have any property that is not present on all other cars. Stick to a PP limit and there will be no problem.

I'm happy to see cheaters banned. I simply hope the powers that be are wise enough to leave this new mod community alone.

 

[Anathema]

Well, could not sign into the 3rd out of 4 PSN accounts that I've set up (one is the main, one's for Call of Duty and other shooters, the one in question is for the other family members, and one is for my best friend.)

No idea why, the thing DOES have GT5 data on it but only the DLC cars (and that 86 GT you get for updating.) No other cars at all.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

If you think that GT5 was "stale" and "boring" before and with the hacked cars it became fun and exciting take your GT5 disc and throw it out of the window then go out and buy a burnout game.
And yes I have used the x1 to get from 38 to 40.

If you actually knew anything about hybrids, then you wouldn't make ignorant posts like this.

 

[TwIsTeD_83]

If you actually knew anything about hybrids, then you wouldn't make ignorant posts like this.

Most people playing the game don't know anything about hybrids though and that puts them in a serious disadvantage in online lobbies without even them knowing it.I think you are being ignorant to the serious damage the hacks do to the integrity of the game.
And don't mention "honest" people, these bans are applied only to make GT5 an even playing field again and even though I used one I welcome them.

 

[Giulietta73]

It is extremely relevant. As a 20 year veteran of the game industry (google me if you like), it's common to have to deal with reality versus the perception we create for gamers. This modding movement, because that's all it is, is currently suffering from a clash between perception and reality.

There is no "part swap". That is not what is happening. Modders are RANGE swapping. There are no aluminum blocks or race motors anything of the like. There are different torque and hp numbers. There are no race suspensions, just adjustment ranges.

The closest thing to a part swap is the chassis swap because they affect things that the player can't really deal with like chassis stiffness.

Bubble bursting time: Every car is just a collection of values in a range.

I've had to support mod communities in the past and there is a problem with cheaters versus modders. Grip modifying isn't cheating, because there are checks and balances in place. SUPER SOFT RACING TIRES is what I suspect to be the true problem and that is cheating for sure.

If you mod a car, you are still within the boundaries of the game. You've simply created a new car that is no different than any other car in the game. A mod car does not have any property that is not present on all other cars. Stick to a PP limit and there will be no problem.

I'm happy to see cheaters banned. I simply hope the powers that be are wise enough to leave this new mod community alone.

I'm not sure you got what I was talking about - did you read the post I quoted? I was responding to that.

We all know what the parameters of the game are, and we know that hybridding is outside those parameters. Call it hybridding, call it modding, decorate it with terms like 'movement' if you like, but it doesn't change the simple concept of right or wrong. Whether one person does it or thousands of people do it, it is outside the confines of the game. You don't have to have a wealth of experience within any particular industry to work out the right and wrongs of this situation. I'm indifferent to hybridding but I do know that it's wrong - hence PD's statement on GTnews.

Edit: @Lock2Lock - I get ya:tup:

 

[eran0004]

It seems that that is actually true. According to many people on the websites where the hybriding programs are at. There has been many people stating that they had been the reason that they were banned because some people didn't do the time/drift trials and they are banned.

When did Sony/PD say that only accounts using hybrids in drift/time trials would be banned? It seems like it's more of a general "if you're caught with a hybrid, you get banned"-situation.

 

[murphsmoose]

Just like every single one of your posts.

extremely butthurt now, are we? like your posts have any more substance than mine. Im the one thats right here not you.

 

[Lock2Lock]

When did Sony/PD say that only accounts using hybrids in drift/time trials would be banned? It seems like it's more of a general "if you're caught with a hybrid, you get banned"-situation.

They didn't... Just judging PD's word play in the warning and the fact that they removed people's times/scores on the online seasonal events. Seems like quite a coincidence doesn't it?

 

[Chris123]

Looks like I'm banned, although I've never owned or driven a hybrid car at all, can only imagine how many ppl in the same boat as me waking up to find their online service no longer working, clap clap polyphony, good job...

 

[Lock2Lock]

Edit: @Lock2Lock - I get ya:tup:

Thumbs up.

 

[Ills1999]

Most people playing the game don't know anything about hybrids though and that puts them in a serious disadvantage in online lobbies without even them knowing it.I think you are being ignorant to the serious damage the hacks do to the integrity of the game.
And don't mention "honest" people, these bans are applied only to make GT5 an even playing field again and even though I used one I welcome them.

The biggest problem I have when faced with a room with hybrid cars (I don't use hybrids) is how much of MY TIME it wastes backing out of a room and logging into a new room.

This is what PD needs to protect. They need to find a way for people who want fair racing without hacking their game to play. All of the rest of it I couldn't care less about.

 

[Dan]

extremely butthurt now, are we? like your posts have any more substance than mine. Im the one thats right here not you.

Claiming that any type of hybrid will ruin the game-despite the realistic ones which more people are in favor of than unrealistic ones-is just asinine. If you don't want to drive a hybrid, don't ask for one. If you don't want to race with them, join a private lounge league. If you don't like them in general, quit posting on every single hybrid form.

It boggles the mind how you haven't been banned, even after Terronium-12 deleted every single one of your posts. If you don't have anything to contribute, stay off the forums. I actually contribute to these forums because I can appreciate something that is really fun and creative. I also compliment users that take their time to make really cool cars that people have begged Polyphony for.

 

[murphsmoose]

Claiming that any type of hybrid will ruin the game-despite the realistic ones which more people are in favor of than unrealistic ones-is just asinine. If you don't want to drive a hybrid, don't ask for one. If you don't want to race with them, join a private lounge league. If you don't like them in general, quit posting on every single hybrid form.

It boggles the mind how you haven't been banned, even after Terronium-12 deleted every single one of your posts. If you don't have anything to contribute, stay off the forums. I actually contribute to these forums because I can appreciate something that is really fun and creative. I also compliment users that take their time to make really cool cars that people have begged Polyphony for.

Obviously you are completely clueless. I should not have to alter my game play(go to a private lounge or anything of the sort) in order to deal with someone who is hacking the game. Get over it. I have already said that I think that there are plenty of people that play GT5 with hacked cars that are not ruining the game. I do think at the same time that there are plenty who have received hacked cars or have gained information on how to hack GT5 that ARE ruining the game. So it will be best if they are all gone.

As far as getting banned from GTP. I have no reason for being banned. That is why I have not been banned. Its pretty simple. I can break it down for you more if it still boggles your mind. LOL

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Most people playing the game don't know anything about hybrids though and that puts them in a serious disadvantage in online lobbies without even them knowing it.I think you are being ignorant to the serious damage the hacks do to the integrity of the game.
And don't mention "honest" people, these bans are applied only to make GT5 an even playing field again and even though I used one I welcome them.

I am aware of it. That's why I haven't been contributing to the problem by using them in online races or drift/time trial seasonals.

I called your post ignorant because you said people who found GT5 boring before the hacked cars should forget about this game and go play Burnout. There is more to hybrids than making cars with insane horsepower.

 

[Tornado]

Looks like I'm banned, although I've never owned or driven a hybrid car at all, can only imagine how many ppl in the same boat as me waking up to find their online service no longer working, clap clap polyphony, good job...

Actually curious what's going to happen for things like this. It wouldn't surprise me at all if a lot of people who never did anything got caught in the crossfire (like what if they ban people who were sent a hybrid car but never did anything with it?), so what is PD going to do for that? Can you even contest the ban; and if so, how?