Notice of Account Ban measures

[elston87]

Just thinking about it, I think the Secret menu is the sole reason as to why Polyphony stepped up to take action. It allows one to go against the ToS in many ways. The hybrids are just something minor in terms of this.

For one, that feature that allows one to take control of another player's car online is an obvious reason. That alone was probably the message that got delivered to Polyphony; someone before me was probably grieved with this feature, and reported to Polyphony about it. Knowing that they knew this menu was still in the game's code, and someone had figured out how to use it, they responded. Like the norm, how to enable this menu probably spread someplace, so the plot thickens like usual...

Another feature within the menu is to allow for the DLC cars and tracks to be played. That obviously goes against the ToS for GT5, as well as for PSN. Should be obvious as to why this is an exponential problem...

The hybrids are minor, I think, when it comes down to it. Granted, there could be some exploits in the PP system that can be used to give the player an unfair advantage, but that is less of a concern that ruining a user's experience or playing with DLC content without paying for it.

No doubt we'll see a patch sometime; if Polyphony thinks that bans will resolve this problem, then eh...

No, that function enables you to change views (and it says that in the secret menu), it has nothing to do with taking over control of the car.

As I said, I don't know much about it; parts of my previous post are invalid, but someone definitely took control of my car the other day, while one player was still parked at the start. They accomplished it somehow, and I think it has to do with the enabling of the menu.

Regardless, the ability to play with DLC content for free was probably also addressed by them.

 

[Dan]

I just hope that with this secret menu (which I still want to know more about, not how to access it) people can't kick hosts or the entire lobby with it.

 

[elston87]

I just hope that with this secret menu (which I still want to know more about, not how to access it) people can't kick hosts or the entire lobby with it.

All I know of is people freezing entire lobbies with created hybrids which the game cannot load. When someone selects the car and tries to enter, the game locks for all players within the lobby, and requires a power-off to recover from it.

......after that just being said, hybrids could also have more hierarchy of a reason now.

 

[KiroKai]

I just hope that with this secret menu (which I still want to know more about, not how to access it) people can't kick hosts or the entire lobby with it.

No you can't. Oh the hysteria

It enables you to change your ID displayed above your car, but it will show your actual PSN ID in the lobby members list and the chat (plus, you can't see what others type in lobby chat anymore if you're playing with a changed name, but you can type yourself in it).

All I know of is people freezing entire lobbies with created hybrids which the game cannot load. When someone selects the car and tries to enter, the game locks for all players within the lobby, and requires a power-off to recover from it.

......after that just being said, hybrids could also have more hierarchy of a reason now.

Any example of that? I've been in lobbies with hundreds of hybrids, mostly others using them, but myself also. I'm usually in free run rooms so cars are changed frequently, there's always someone currently off track changing theirs. I haven't experienced any freezes and nobody else did in those rooms either (mostly friends so they probably would have mentioned it).

 

[No Name Drift]

Got a little question: Means that if i got a hacked car i just can get banned if someone reported me before?

Sorry for my bad english...

 

[Dan]

No you can't. Oh the hysteria

It enables you to change your ID displayed above your car, but it will show your actual PSN ID in the lobby members list and the chat (plus, you can't see what others type in lobby chat anymore if you're playing with a changed name, but you can type yourself in it).

Oh. That's good. But I do remember hearing from someone on GTP that a random person joined a lobby kicked the host (I don't believe the host was being vote kicked by everyone) and everyone else, even though he was not in the host position.

Got a little question: Means that if i got a hacked car i just can get banned if someone reported me before?

Sorry for my bad english...

According to the statement from PD, it could potentially happen. They are apparently handing out bans to anyone caught with a hybrid, so I am not taking any chances and deleted mine.

And your English is fine. 👍

 

[Dan]

Please delete this post.

 

[KiroKai]

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[No Name Drift]

According to the statement from PD, it could potentially happen. They are apparently handing out bans to anyone caught with a hybrid, so I am not taking any chances and deleted mine.

And your English is fine. 👍

Alright thanks for your fast answere !

 

[christara321]

I just hope that with this secret menu (which I still want to know more about, not how to access it) people can't kick hosts or the entire lobby with it.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8333583#post8333583

Hope that helps.
Chat soon bye for now.

 

[Wienish]

Are there already people around here that actually have been banned from GT5?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Are there already people around here that actually have been banned from GT5?

Not on GTP, no. A couple I think from the other forums where I'd say the heart of this stuff has been founded. They have found a way around it though.

 

[NFSCARBON1]

All I know of is people freezing entire lobbies with created hybrids which the game cannot load. When someone selects the car and tries to enter, the game locks for all players within the lobby, and requires a power-off to recover from it.

......after that just being said, hybrids could also have more hierarchy of a reason now.

In all the hybrid rooms I have been in, the online experience is no different to normal. That said, I suppose unloadable hybrids could crash a room. I know GT5 does not like cars with lots of bodywork clipping and just crashes. So if one of these tried loading onto track in a lobby, it could crash everyone's game.

 

[Dan]

In all the hybrid rooms I have been in, the online experience is no different to normal. That said, I suppose unloadable hybrids could crash a room. I know GT5 does not like cars with lots of bodywork clipping and just crashes. So if one of these tried loading onto track in a lobby, it could crash everyone's game.

GT5 doesn't like large groups of users names floating above their cars also. I have been in lobbyies where I am facing a group of cars parked together, and when another vehicle pulls up, they don't have their name above their car.

 

[opelgt1969]

If you don't want to drive a hybrid, don't ask for one. If you don't want to race with them, join a private lounge league.

Fixed your post as this is a better solution.

 

[watermelon punch]

The notice that PD sent out to every in my opinion is quite unclear. It seems to me that if you are caught using a hybrid car online, you will be banned, period. It doesn't state that you will be banned if you have a lobby for hybrids only or if you only use them offline for personal purposes.

This observation seems correct to me. It can be interpreted in a number of ways. Basically it sounds like they're saying that you can get banned for any type of messing with the game data if you're caught at it.
Who knows how they will catch people? I don't know. Any number of ways I suppose.
Best to assume nothing, and consider that if you're doing anything that's covered under this, it could be risky.

When I first read it, I thought it said "church them all!"

Sorry, didn't mean to bring religion into the conversation.

I'm 20. Not sure if that qualifies as the "younger gamer generation" or not, but my first game system was the Super Nintendo and I still play older video games all the time, so I'm definitely not spoiled given how limited video games were back then compared to now.

Just for a reference FYI. Yes, 20 is very very young Muo. There are quite a few people here on GTPlanet who are in their 50s, for example. Many in their 30s.
So there is a bit of a different perspective with that I'm sure.
I've been playing video games since the Atari 2600 came out about 35 years ago. And I've been playing online video games for about 14 years now.
And from the start basically of online video games, there has been a history all along of hacked exploits being used by griefers to ruin the enjoyment of others - which is the primary reason the hammer usually comes down on it.
Look up "Glitcher's Dilemma" in search.

Any example of that? I've been in lobbies with hundreds of hybrids, mostly others using them, but myself also. I'm usually in free run rooms so cars are changed frequently, there's always someone currently off track changing theirs. I haven't experienced any freezes and nobody else did in those rooms either (mostly friends so they probably would have mentioned it).

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8281507#post8281507

Some of these modded cars have been "over-modded" .. Meaning incorrectly.. and when they go on to the track it cause the room to freeze and/or lag out.. YES I have seen AND experienced this -_-

Heard of this elsewhere too several times now. So yeah, apparently there have been reports that there are hacked cars that can cause this type of freezing.

meaningless info

No shortage of that on the internet, that's for sure.

@ opelgt1969 👍 +1

 

[opelgt1969]

watermelonpunch 👍

Must be my age showing
I remember when pong first came out, I really used to enjoy pinball(the kind that had real balls and lights) that you could bump.

 

[watermelon punch]

watermelonpunch 👍

Must be my age showing
I remember when pong first came out, I really used to enjoy pinball(the kind that had real balls and lights) that you could bump.

Yeah I liked pinball & arcade video games too when I used to go to the bowling alley with my mother... Forgot about that. That was even before the Atari 2600. And yeah, too, Pong... though I played that at a friend's house, and her mother called it "TV Tennis"... so I always thought that was the name of it.

Of course that makes me think... You were punished for "tilting" the pinball machine at the arcade. A form of interfering with normal gameplay.

 

[PR1VATEJ0KER]

The Exaggeration of Secret Menu functionality is strong in this thread.

The worst thing it lets you do is display a different name above your car as Kiro-Kai said.
The second worst is playing with hidden or dlc cars/tracks in arcade mode only.

Neither of these things could be worse than hybrids & creating a hybrid with DLC parts or inserting total DLC car into your save.

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

You started off sounding like Yoda.

 

[watermelon punch]

 

[GranTurismo916]

This feels like a late April Fool's joke.

 

[Starciller]

I like how I'm going from cruise lobby to cruise lobby and they are all full of hacked cars literally full of them. I thought they were banning people? And the lobby's aren't full of realistic hacks they are full of 500 mph BMW's and altered body panels. Hope they hurry up and start banning.

 

[watermelon punch]

This feels like a late April Fool's joke.

I like how I'm going from cruise lobby to cruise lobby and they are all full of ... 500 mph BMW's and altered body panels

 

[Starciller]

I see what you did there.

 

[TanJaM92]

I believe that people in PD need to decipher their message with some mystic tea leaves before assumptions run rampant I personally don't get why they wrote it past-tense.

 

[saxplayer1998]

I think that PD should write a message about the details and to what extent that the bans will have in hex-code where the ASCII is from 1-26 (1-1A), so it corresponds to a letter in the alphabet. This way, everyone who is hacking will decipher the code about their destiny and focus on the instead of hacking. Problem solved, everything about this is now irrelevant. I just solved all your problems in 3 minutes.

 

[Hei]

Here I am, sitting here with no Hybrids that can do above 380 mph, and everyone is having fun outside with 500 mph BMW's

 

[Lock2Lock]

None of my hacked cars even reach 400 mph by themselves.

"Mine are over 9000" hahahahahahaha finally I get to use that quote. But just kidding.... My legit red bull did that's about it. My hybrids would never come close to 250MPH more less then 400MPH.

 

[Hei]

Well, I got a non hybrid GT-on to 345. Other than that, my Top Secret R35 does 376. It is the highest top speed in my garage.

So, I have been playing in hybrid rooms all day today. Still not banned