Nurburgring 24 Hour Race -New pics-
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What, all the vid's are in motion, and I've seen the vid of the M5. None of the vids of the ring are high enough quality to tell, but other vid's I have that are full quality are still lower quality than thoes pics. Besides you've already said you can't tell the difference between photo mode shots and normal shots so I don't expect you to suddenly be capable. So lik I said before, let's agree to dissagree and not keep starting these discussions on graphics all the time.
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Ohhhh man....unbeleivable.... :faint:
You know, sometimes I just don't like it when things like these are released. It just makes me hate myself that I don't have GT4, and wont until november. I just got out of school, and will have plenty of free time. When I get it, I wont' have any time to play it. So I'll play that instead of H/W, then my grades will drop, then I won't be allowed to play it. So it should be released int he summer. But this is irrelivant to the thread. So nice find on the pics. 👍
Just wish I could get prologue here in the good ole US of A...
You know, sometimes I just don't like it when things like these are released. It just makes me hate myself that I don't have GT4, and wont until november. I just got out of school, and will have plenty of free time. When I get it, I wont' have any time to play it. So I'll play that instead of H/W, then my grades will drop, then I won't be allowed to play it. So it should be released int he summer. But this is irrelivant to the thread. So nice find on the pics. 👍
Just wish I could get prologue here in the good ole US of A...
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I Want The Game Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, I compiled a composite animated GIF with the E3 trailer and the pics and concluded that they are definately from the PS2 and most likely not from the Camera mode. The pics are antialiased, but it might be from some Photoshop work from PD. This isn't perfect, because of the angle of the camera, but I did my best. The colors are definately better in the pics, but that is probably because od the crappy quality of the MOV file.
Animated GIF
Animated GIF
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Thxs for that event. I also dont believe that's from photomode, it just doesn't look as clean or smooth as the photomode pics I have seen. Have you seen the vid from gt4p pal, the one with the M5 on the Nurb? If so, try and get a similar scene and compare it to the new pics. The vid is a better res than the e3 trailer.
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If you want to compare them, go here and download the vid if you dont have it but if you do want to download it, you would need to sign up, it's free.
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If you want to compare them, go here and download the vid if you dont have it but if you do want to download it, you would need to sign up, it's free.
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Freaking amazing! i want to race on this track so bad! 
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Amazing link. Great way to show off GT4's pure simulation skills and yes, like the rest of you, cannot wait for this game anymore.
Hopefully DRIV3R will settle my nerves until November, although I expect it to move to Christmas, soley to make more money, and nothing can really compare to GT4 anyways....
Worth the wait....
Hopefully DRIV3R will settle my nerves until November, although I expect it to move to Christmas, soley to make more money, and nothing can really compare to GT4 anyways....
Worth the wait....
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live4speedI don't like to dissagree with someone who's name bears a striking resemblence to my own but I have the vid on my computer and just looking at it now the vid is too low quality to tell, but every mid-race pic and video I have thats high quality looks a lower resolution to thoes pics. The graphics at E3 were exactly the same resolution as in GT4and neither use any anti-aliasing, the photo mode pics increase the resolution and include anti-aliasing which thoes pics have both of. Compare them to pics that are confirmed from the photo mode and the only difference is the backgrounds a lower quality because it's not an actual photo mode location.
PS, PD are in no way tricking us by releasing pics done via the photo mode, that mode is public knowledge and they don't claim they are mid-race graphics.
GTP uses OverSampling and so does every game of this generation. OSA is used in different ways and at different levels in games. GTP uses edge anti-alaising at level 6. The images shown do show FFOSA most likely at level 12 and that would be hard to do especially at a course like Nurb. However, I'd say they are using the real-time engine simply because I know that those graphics are possible since POP used FFOSA at level 6 for the PS2 and ran quite smoothly. We'll know for sure in time.
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Okay, but I still beleive it's done in the photo mode. Some people keep saying they on't because it's not quite as good as the pics taken at the photo locations, theres a reason for that, this isn't a photo location. It's a lower quality track, but also the smoother, cleaner textures especially the closer ones give it away that it's not a pic direct from a replay.antde2001
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I'm not really familiar how the new photo mode feature operates, but I can say it does make some amazing, sharp images. I would think it makes logical sense for PD to use this new feature to show screens shots of GT4. Why wouldn't they? So, yes I agree that these screen shots, and all others so far, are examples of this new feature.
As the owner of the Toyota Demo, I've seen the graphic quality of what GT4 will have. It's an improvement over GT3, but it does NOT look similar to the still photos seen in this thread, nor in any other thread. There are visible "jaggies" in the demo, that will be visible in the final game. And before anyone opens his/her mouth about the quality of my set or connection; I have my PS2 connected to an HDTV set, that converts all images to 480p, via a component cable, for the best image quality possible.
Now, for the car in the pics. What race series does this car belong to? I notice it's not a JGTC car, because the absence of the two gas intakes on the rear of the car.
As the owner of the Toyota Demo, I've seen the graphic quality of what GT4 will have. It's an improvement over GT3, but it does NOT look similar to the still photos seen in this thread, nor in any other thread. There are visible "jaggies" in the demo, that will be visible in the final game. And before anyone opens his/her mouth about the quality of my set or connection; I have my PS2 connected to an HDTV set, that converts all images to 480p, via a component cable, for the best image quality possible.
Now, for the car in the pics. What race series does this car belong to? I notice it's not a JGTC car, because the absence of the two gas intakes on the rear of the car.
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Thanks to Toler and GTchamp Ive got it sorted now.
Right to sort out the argument for photo mode or not?
Simple!
All the Official released Screens from PD/Sony have Been taken from the Photo Mode.
Yes The Photo Locations are more detailed, But replay shots are Enhanced also with The use of filters. No video shots weve seen can do it justice because they are all to low quality.
In My opinion the reason these photos look better than those from E3 is that those tracks were modelled well over a year ago , and obviously since then PD have discovered many new techniques which have since allowed them to get the ring in, it is my assumption they they have also managed to use better textures as well.
Look at fuji & tsukuba these tracks appeared in the first official screens, yet the textures are weak and track detail quite limited compared to the latest track pics, even though the skyline parked under the dunlop bridge looked quite good to us at the time, (this was a photo mode pic of a replay), Yet every pic of the newly included nurb, features much more trackside detail, than either of those tracks an yet the track is over 10 times longer, without a doubt PD have made significant strides in the graphics dept in the extra dev time.
However I Say again, All the Screens out of Sony/PD have been from the Photo Mode, Some taken from Replay, which i remember everyone arguing if in game or not, Others from the Photo locations, Which I remember everyone arguing if they were PC/MAC dev shots, All were taken with Photo mode.
Anyway I dont Care Those pics look SWEET, And I not gonna be going slow enough to notice if i can see clearly all the leaves on the trees.
Right to sort out the argument for photo mode or not?
Simple!
All the Official released Screens from PD/Sony have Been taken from the Photo Mode.
Yes The Photo Locations are more detailed, But replay shots are Enhanced also with The use of filters. No video shots weve seen can do it justice because they are all to low quality.
In My opinion the reason these photos look better than those from E3 is that those tracks were modelled well over a year ago , and obviously since then PD have discovered many new techniques which have since allowed them to get the ring in, it is my assumption they they have also managed to use better textures as well.
Look at fuji & tsukuba these tracks appeared in the first official screens, yet the textures are weak and track detail quite limited compared to the latest track pics, even though the skyline parked under the dunlop bridge looked quite good to us at the time, (this was a photo mode pic of a replay), Yet every pic of the newly included nurb, features much more trackside detail, than either of those tracks an yet the track is over 10 times longer, without a doubt PD have made significant strides in the graphics dept in the extra dev time.
However I Say again, All the Screens out of Sony/PD have been from the Photo Mode, Some taken from Replay, which i remember everyone arguing if in game or not, Others from the Photo locations, Which I remember everyone arguing if they were PC/MAC dev shots, All were taken with Photo mode.
Anyway I dont Care Those pics look SWEET, And I not gonna be going slow enough to notice if i can see clearly all the leaves on the trees.
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some awesome on-board vid´s and more here
www.falken.co.jp
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=44358
www.falken.co.jp
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=44358
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Nice link toler.
People who say that ingame grafix are not so polished as these pictures are right. But....just pause your gt3 in-game or in-replay and you will see that many of the imperfections of the moving image will dissapear.
Second, people who say that the pictures are not as detailed as other photomode pics are right. But think of this. Almost all camera options are adjustable in photomode, such as lens setting and shuttertime. The maker of these pictures just might not have taken the time to adjust al these setting, and therefore made these pics that just not seem so professional as the polyphony pics.
Does it matter that the pics are from photomode or not? It doesn't for me. Is it certain to tell if they were made in photo mode? I don't think we can know for sure.
People who say that ingame grafix are not so polished as these pictures are right. But....just pause your gt3 in-game or in-replay and you will see that many of the imperfections of the moving image will dissapear.
Second, people who say that the pictures are not as detailed as other photomode pics are right. But think of this. Almost all camera options are adjustable in photomode, such as lens setting and shuttertime. The maker of these pictures just might not have taken the time to adjust al these setting, and therefore made these pics that just not seem so professional as the polyphony pics.
Does it matter that the pics are from photomode or not? It doesn't for me. Is it certain to tell if they were made in photo mode? I don't think we can know for sure.
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That toyota demo is nowhere close to be the respresentation of gt4's final graphics. Even if that is a photomode pic, the ingame graphics will not look dramatically different. Some of you are making it seem like the pics are from a CG vid, but they aren't. If they are photomode, gt4 will still look alot similar to it and I'll you right now, some of the gt4 trailers I have look just as good as those pics. Live, you are bs man but w/e.
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You got good points but I hate it when people make it seem like gt4 ingame doesn't look half as good as a photomode pic when that's b/s. I mean, it's not CG, it's just a ingame capture that was possibly made using photomode. And I have seen latest vids of gt4 that look as good.PjotrStroganov
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