Nurburgring Extreme 50 Miles

[Bopop4]

pic provided by AMG

Nurburgring 50 Miles
Race length: 4 laps

Tackle the mighty German circuit with some of the fastest, most demanding cars in the world.

Rules:

1.) This events uses GT Life mode as a event creator only.

2.) You can choose any car in the game apart from the FGT.


3.) In addition to oiling and washing (GT auto) maintenance, you can only install and upgrade Increase Rigidity and Body Rigidity Refresher units, other parts are strictly forbidden., adjusting any available vehicle parameters is permissible.

4.) Once you pick your vehicle post your acceptance in this thread, along with the full name of your vehicle's choice.


CURRENT ENTRIES
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Driver --------------------- Car -------------------


5.) In order to participate go to Extreme hall and then proceed to the All Stars event at the top.
Run the Nurburgring race twice and submit both times separately.

6.) Usage of ASM and TCS is NOT allowed.
Group C cars didn't have it, so neither do we.

7.) You should keep two wheels on the track all the time (rumble strips are part of the track) and avoid collision with AI cars or walls as much as possible.

8.) Wall-riding and any other cheat driving methods are forbidden.

9.) This challenge will run only once so, as soon as we pronounce our winner, competitors will have no more obligations for this challenge.

10.) Deadline for the submission is the 12st of August, 2012.

(Thanks to Matej for this outline.)


Thc118-R8
Race 1: 11'28.468
Race 2: 11'32.161
Total: 23'00.629

Bopop4-R92CP
Race 1: 11'42.155
Race 2: 11'37.572
Total: 23'19.727

Shotamagee-787b
Race 1: 12'07.744
Race 2: 12'07.255
Total: 24'14.969

Matej-XJR-9
Race 1: 12'17.426
Race 2: 12'15.156
Total: 24'32.582

 

[Epic B]

Is this a GT5 competition? Cause this is the GT4 board.

 

[locoman88]

Wrong forum... mods move it or lock it now.

 

[Bopop4]

Wrong forum... mods move it or lock it now.

I don't see how a GT4 race doesn't belong in the GT4 forum.

Is this a GT5 competition? Cause this is the GT4 board.

Umm no, this is a GT4 comp.

 

[Epic B]

Okay, but you say about it using GT Life. Nothing of that name is in GT4.

 

[Bopop4]

Oh, it means that you use the career mode, I used Matejs description, he's probably PAL so that's where the difference comes from.

 

[shotamagee]

Allow me to post something constructive;
I was leaning towards using the Mazda 787B, but no tyre wear means I'll probably try the tyre devouring monster that is the Nissan R92CP first.

 

[Bopop4]

I was also thinking of that car, it seems to handle S curves better.
I'll try and see if there are any longer LMP Nurb races, I don't think so though.

 

[Matej]

Oh, it means that you use the career mode, I used Matejs description, he's probably PAL so that's where the difference comes from.

Ah, actually we have GT Mode but I took GT Life term since I thought it would be easier to refer to Simulation mode, not arcade. Well, maybe it's best to change that to GT Mode in order to avoid any unnecessary disarray.

Anyway, this thread belongs to GT4 forum, no doubt about that.

 

[Bopop4]

Ok, there are no 4 lap races in GT Mode so it will be done in the TRack Day.

 

[Matej]

I'm going to participate with Silk Cut painted Jaguar XJR-9 '88.

Just three questions:

1.) I think there is a small typo in rule number 5; if we need to fully complete 4 laps then we should exit the race when lap counter shows us 5 not 4, otherwise we will complete only 3 of them.

2.) Any tires are allowed... Just for verification (although it's probably unnecessary), we can use Racing Super Soft compound too ?

3.) Are Group C cars capable of completing this event without running out of gasoline ?

 

[Bopop4]

1. To fully complete 4 laps then thee is no typo, but to have the game count 4 laps then yes, you would have to go to lap 5.
2. Whoops...Hard tires only for now.
3.....Damn.
I may need to split this up into 2, 2 lap races.
Continue practicing and I'll get it solved.

 

[thc118]

Why not just run in practice mode if the cars can't make it 4 laps? Still no tire wear, and the cars won't burn fuel either. The replay timer behaves just like in Track Meet, too. I ran a lap around the track in a group C, and it seemed like a time trial anyway. I can't imagine anyone putting a lap on the field in 4 total laps, maybe 5 but not 4.

Audi R8 for me.

 

[Bopop4]

I think what I'll do is use an extreme mode race with 2 laps, and then do it twice.
Hard tires are still the spec tire, but you might want to try and make it last the whole 2 laps.

 

[thc118]

2+2 is going to be way easier to run mistake free, than 4 straight.
This is an extreme 50 miles, right?

 

[Bopop4]

I said extreme because Group C/LMP/GT1 didn't have the same ring to it.
And I really want there to be tire wear, so that at the end of the run you have to try and control a 900hp beast on old tires.
And with it being on the Nurburgring, I think that it's ok to give people a little break.

 

[shotamagee]

Bopop4, when you've figured out how exactly we're going to do this, can you update the OP so the rules are official(ish) so I/we can start practicing.

Also Hard Tyres = R2's?

 

[Bopop4]

Yes, and it's going to be 2, 2 lap races. (I just have to get the name of the event.)
So you can all practice right now, and yes, R2s are race hards.
(Sorry for the chaos, I forgot about the length of the 'Ring affecting fuel usage.)

 

[Bopop4]

Updated OP.

I ran the race once to check for tire wear and it seems ok with a stock tuned R92CP.
But after I did an oil change the power was at 1001 horsepower.
It will take a lot of tuning to settle that beast down. But 230mph+ is fun.

 

[Matej]

I just took Jaguar for a test spin. With Hard tires it really is possible to run two laps with tire wear mode on, although in last section it was kinda tricky but that's probably due to my constant rear end leeway. Not to mention dancing on the smallest bumps.
Yep, it's gonna take a lot of effort to control this madness .

Oh, and it's probably too late but it's worth mentioning that both Nurburing 24h and Formula GT event are capable of running more than 4 laps. But AI is either too slow or too weird, so this (emphasis on All Star event) is probably the best choice.

 

[Bopop4]

Yeah, the enduro only has DTM speed cars, and the F1s don't know how to drive.
Watching the preview of the all star race was fun, 3 of them were fighting for the lead over the entire race.
And then just whem the 92 had it won, the 787b flies into him and steals the win.

 

[Matej]

Watching the preview of the all star race was fun, 3 of them were fighting for the lead over the entire race.
And then just whem the 92 had it won, the 787b flies into him and steals the win.

Yeah, almost all MR cars have problems with tire wear in last section of the second lap. I also saw Vertigo taking second place at such circumstances .

Anyway, times are submitted. Didn't had any problems with tire wear and softest possible suspension setup was very helpful. Rear camber and rear bound settings had the greatest effect on reducing tire spin and oversteer during acceleration.
Very fun and exciting race without AI contact except when they bump into you. 👍

 

[Bopop4]

Oh wow, it must've been bad if the Vertigo got second.
I'm going to test a bit tonight, I also have the GT1 race to test for.

And I really wanted my 3,000th post to be in the GT4 thread, it got me back into GT, the internet, and made everything much better in general.
So, I would like to thank you guys for continuing the flame of the older GTs with all of our series.

 

[shotamagee]

I tried this last night with the Sauber C9; way too much power / tyre spinning action.
I ended up opting for the Black Mazda 787B, its probably the only Group C car I'm able to keep under control at the Nordschleife, might do a full race report later.

 

[Matej]

And I really wanted my 3,000th post to be in the GT4 thread, it got me back into GT, the internet, and made everything much better in general.
So, I would like to thank you guys for continuing the flame of the older GTs with all of our series.

Cheers to you too mate!! AI grid was filled with 92, R390 Race Car, another Jaguar XJR-9, Bmw Mclaren and mighty Vertigo. Fun to watch on replay mode but also hard to bet on them.

By the way, I'll will submit my first run again, because I have found a way to clear up couple of seconds on the first section of the track.

 

[shotamagee]

Official entry as per OP;
Car: (Black, Used) Mazda 787B
Power: 725 Hp
Weight: 830 Kg
Tyres: R2 (Race Hard)

I found driving anything more powerful than this car at the Nordshleife to be a frstrating experience, (No TCS + DS2 = lots of tyre frying action) this car might be a bit slower, but it allowed me to complete two pretty clean runs.
I know I can improve my times by a little bit but I'm going to be busy the rest of the weekend, therefore; Times Submitted.

 

[Corvette2012]

I think 4 laps isn't enough for a challenge tires the tires don't wear off until like 5 laps and fuel consumption will be very low. Why not make it two races of 2 laps makes it a challenge to not make mistakes.
I would go with the BMW V12 or the Sauber C9.

 

[shotamagee]

I think 4 laps isn't enough for a challenge tires the tires don't wear off until like 5 laps and fuel consumption will be very low. Why not make it two races of 2 laps makes it a challenge to not make mistakes.
I would go with the BMW V12 or the Sauber C9.

1. Did you try this? I found that when driving a 900HP Group C race car, with no TSC at the Nurburgring on R2 tyres, that tyre wear becomes an issue towards the end of the 2nd lap, though admittedly fuel consumption is not a factor.
2. It is two, two lap races. (4 laps total)
3. What's stopping you?

 

[Bopop4]

Gah, lot's of internet B.S right now, will post results tonight or tomorrow, sorry.

 

[Bopop4]

Ok finally.

Thc118-R8
Race 1: 11'28.468
Race 2: 11'32.161
Total: 23'00.629

Bopop4-R92CP
Race 1: 11'42.155
Race 2: 11'37.572
Total: 23'19.727

Shotamagee-787b
Race 1: 12'07.744
Race 2: 12'07.255
Total: 24'14.969

Matej-XJR-9
Race 1: 12'17.426
Race 2: 12'15.156
Total: 24'32.582

Congratulations to Thc118 and his Audi R8 for a fast, consistant time. 👍
Shotamagee was only an incredible .5 of a second apart for both runs.



Race report:
Well it seems that big power doesn't always do it, with 1001hp the Nissan was a bitch to drive and control, I was very happy when I made a lap without a spin or hitting a wall. 2nd gear was useless, and I had to be very careful in 2rd as it would still spin the tires at over 100mph.

Thinking back on it, if I had put in more time like I had done with the R246 race, then it would've been a lot closer at the top. But, everyone drove a great race to keep these beasts under control with hard tires and no TSC. 👍