Oh, oh, oh, I'm making a Ludicrous Claim®! Read the first post!

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People typically lurk before they decided to create an account.

Except I didn't. I created an account specifically to try to promote my GT6 league but that endeavor failed pretty quickly, I vaguely remember doing a car suggestion for all the V8 Supercars and got in a little bit of trouble for trying to combine 4 cars into 1 suggestion. Then I got suggested by a friend to join a club here and slowly started making my way around the forums from there. I lurk a lot now, my post count certainly does not match the number of threads I visit and how long I visit the site for on any given day.

On the topic of WeThePeople I saw his username in a status very shortly after the name change and found it interesting enough to check his post history and found many more interesting things that he had posted.
 
For the record, I have asked @DQuaN to remove me from this poll and any other award that I have been nominated for (although strangely enough, I got the notification from @Famine). I have never participated in the GTP Awards, and I never will. I have seen the concept used at other forums, where it quickly degenerated into a popularity contest or an opportunity mudslinging. While GTP is considerably better-run than other forums, it doesn't change the way that the whole idea just makes me incredibly uncomfortable.
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I wouldn't call it trolling. Digital sleight of hand, maybe. But then again, maybe that's just giving myself too much credit. The point is that it was far easier to get people to believe it than I thought it would be, so I decided to see how far I could take it and it quickly took on a life of its own. The argument that it was harassment. The insistence that I hadn't taken part in the GTP Awards before and the multiple references to my posting history which would prove it to be a lie. The half-dozen other threads that I have posted in today - including the meta-humour in my caption contest entry - where there wasn't a trace of a temper tantrum. The way my story kept changing. The obvious references to having voted despite my insistence that I wasn't taking part. The implied claim that I could get the GTP Awards shut down. I just wanted to see how far I could take it, but there were half a dozen times when I was sure I would get found out (and to @peobryant's credit, he spotted it straight away; I just didn't spot his post). In the end, all I had to do was show just enough of my usual self - the guy who just won't let go - and dozens of people willingly ignored everything they knew about me because they wanted to believe what I was posting.

Of course, maybe I'm trolling you now. Maybe everything I posted today is genuine and I am just trying to deflect the embarrassment away by pretending the whole thing was a joke retroactively. No doubt there are some people who will think exactly that. But let me ask you this: if I am deflecting now to skirt the embarrassment of a very public meltdown, how do we know that somebody claiming that I am deflecting isn't deflecting themselves to avoid admitting that they fell for it?

I'll call Christopher Nolan and option the film rights to this thread.

Claims it was a joke...
 
Claims it was a joke...
You're right. It does sound like a ludicrous claim - if you neglect everything else that was going on. If I really was having a complete and total meltdown that lasted twelve hours, how do you explain my behaviour elsewhere on the forums where there was absolutely no sign of said meltdown? How could I possibly switch that on and off if it wasn't an act?

Now, you can go ahead and claim that this was me trying to explain away my embarrassment with a pathetic attempt at calling it a joke. But aren't you doing exactly the sane thing? You had the wool pulled down over your eyes, but you don't want to admit it, and so you go around claiming that it wasn't really a joke and that you saw through the charade when no-one else did.

But hey, I'm the guy with the unassailable lead in the poll.
 
You're right. It does sound like a ludicrous claim - if you neglect everything else that was going on. If I really was having a complete and total meltdown that lasted twelve hours, how do you explain my behaviour elsewhere on the forums where there was absolutely no sign of said meltdown? How could I possibly switch that on and off if it wasn't an act?

Twelve hours? more like Twelve years.
 
But hey, I'm the guy with the unassailable lead in the poll.

I don't care for the awards and I've not been following the threads much, so I've just scanned through the silliness to get an idea of what this is about.

Regardless of your intentions - whether it was to try to get yourself removed from the poll, to deliberately engineer the results in your favour, to try and anger people and get attention, to make some statement about how the GTP Awards are pointless (they are, but everyone knew that already), or any combination of the above - that's one of the saddest things I've read all year. I don't mean sad like bunch of teenagers might say a model railway enthusiast is sad; I mean in a "finding out an old acquaintance has drunk themselves to homelessness" sort of sad. You just slowly shake your head and wonder how they ended up like that.

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Can we please not soil this thread with that ridiculous nonsense being called a "joke"?
There are two things in life that everyone prides themselves on without a point of reference: their sense of humour and their ability to judge character.

Humour is a completely subjective art form. We know what we find funny, and in its most basic form, our own attempts at humour simply replicate what we find funny.

On the other hand, we all want to believe that we are a good judge of character because nobody likes it when somebody shows them up.

So all I did was to feed everyone a kernel of truth - a grossly-inflated opinion - and then repeatedly broke character and told the most inconsistent story I could. Then I just sat back and watched as everyone dived on an obvious grenade and held it aloft like a trophy.

You might not like the joke, but that's because the joke was on you.
 
There are two things in life that everyone prides themselves on without a point of reference: their sense of humour and their ability to judge character.

Humour is a completely subjective art form. We know what we find funny, and in its most basic form, our own attempts at humour simply replicate what we find funny.

On the other hand, we all want to believe that we are a good judge of character because nobody likes it when somebody shows them up.

So all I did was to feed everyone a kernel of truth - a grossly-inflated opinion - and then repeatedly broke character and told the most inconsistent story I could. Then I just sat back and watched as everyone dived on an obvious grenade and held it aloft like a trophy.

You might not like the joke, but that's because the joke was on you.
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So just like when you post in the political forum, then.
I don't expect to convince everyone. Indeed, there's a core group of users who I know judge opinions based on the person posting them rather than their content. It's the era of post-truth politics after all. It was that very group of users that I was counting on, because despite immediately assuming that everything I say has no redeeming value elsewhere, they were among the first to believe what I was saying in that thread - thus revealing how shallow and transient they are.
 
thus revealing how shallow and transient they are.

Or they just had enough respect for you that they didn't think you would pull a silly childish stunt like that.

I will say that's why I voted for you, even though I usually disagree with you, you at least put thought into your arguments no matter what section you are in. After this little stunt though I wish I could change my vote to someone more deserving.
 
Or they just had enough respect for you that they didn't think you would pull a silly childish stunt like that.

It is amusing that he considers "now even people who didn't even know me beforehand know not to take me seriously" as something to record as a win on his part.


Like, next time when he makes another sincere argument that is essentially "people have the right to not be offended" can we just link to that thread where he was making the same basic argument as if it was an obvious huge joke? The next time he runs out of arguments and starts hurling insults we refer back to this where he was apparently breaking character when doing so?
 
Are we still honestly thinking it was all a joke?
Prove that it wasn't. Like I said, my posts were full of inconsistencies that anyone who stopped to think for two minutes would have immediately spotted and could have pointed out in the thread and thus reveal it for what it was. You had every opportunity, and you repeatedly ignored them.

apologize for acting the way you did
Apologise for what? For making people look like fools?

That's what you're mad about. That's why you insist that it wasn't a joke.
 
Prove that it wasn't.

Well, you did send a PM to the person running it asking to be removed. Considering only select people have access to that message I don't see how it was vital to pulling off your "joke" unless it wasn't a joke at all.
 
Prove that it wasn't. Like I said, my posts were full of inconsistencies that anyone who stopped to think for two minutes would have immediately spotted and could have pointed out in the thread and thus reveal it for what it was. You had every opportunity, and you repeatedly ignored them.

Uhhh, I didn't post in that thread so I didn't ignore jack. I didn't even see it until you're little game was ousted.

Apologise for what? For making people look like fools?

That's what you're mad about. That's why you insist that it wasn't a joke.

You really are impossible, shame you can't put mods on an ignore list because you honestly have nothing worth reading anymore.
 
Prove that it wasn't. Like I said, my posts were full of inconsistencies that anyone who stopped to think for two minutes would have immediately spotted and could have pointed out in the thread and thus reveal it for what it was. You had every opportunity, and you repeatedly ignored them.


Apologise for what? For making people look like fools?

That's what you're mad about. That's why you insist that it wasn't a joke.
So you are a troll now?
 

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