Oh, oh, oh, I'm making a Ludicrous Claim®! Read the first post!

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mafia_boy
I had to go scout that thread to read what was said originally Scaff. I previously OWNED an XD Falcon so I know how 'quick' they are, or rather...how not quick they were. :P To list the mods again:



So, based on the motor he's got and I AM going to assume it's only the 250ci (4.1L six) crossflow motor since anyone with a V8 version wouldn't stick to ONLY 2" for the exhaust....he's got roughly 140-160hp in a car that weighs around 1300-1350kg depending on options. Even less if it's the 200ci (3.3L six) motor. And considering he's got those bulky ass XR6 rims on it, I'd add another 40-50kg to the total. And considering that they ONLY DID 18's on the 1/4 mile from factory with the auto (which this fool is running), I DOUBT that it would beat anything from BMW, even a 318i. :lol:

As for work on cooling system....:lol:. A radiator flush isn't considered 'work' to the engine. :sly: And the suspension work would've NEEDED to be done as the suspension on the XD wears out after being on the road for 30yrs. ;)
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I guess I should have said newer not newest and I clearly said it beating such cars in the corners.

As for not beating a 318i, I have seen them heaps quite literally been beaten by medium ridgid trucks loaded.

By radiator work I mean more specifically changing the standard single core unit to the V8 tripple core.

And finally I have an XD at home (any educated person would know that my car in the photo is an XE with the ghia front end) that spent the last few years being used in paddocks and its still factory suspension is working perfectly.

p.s the XR6 rims offer the ability for wider tires and are actually about the same weight as the standard steelies.

p.p.s will try to get that cardboard sign but the light and contrast didn't agree with it yesterday.
 
Joey D
I'm more curious to what sort of tires you have on your car.
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I used to run pirellis but had to cut back on cost and I couldn't actually find any that were brand new.

So at the moment I have no idea what exactly they are but they are about 5 KP/h slower around them 'round abouts o_O
 
SatansReverence
I guess I should have said newer not newest and I clearly said it beating such cars in the corners.
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And even then I doubt that in any language. It's a boat, always has been.

As for not beating a 318i, I have seen them heaps quite literally been beaten by medium ridgid trucks loaded.
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See, you're thinking new ones which are as heavy as your XD boat, I'm not. An E30 will take down an XD/XE/XF auto. And the ones beaten by trucks are usually driven by middle-aged women who want the status symbol of the BMW badge and aren't really racing. ;)

By radiator work I mean more specifically changing the standard single core unit to the V8 tripple core.
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Because the standard single core is a pile of crap and needs to be changed.

And finally I have an XD at home (any educated person would know that my car in the photo is an XE with the ghia front end) that spent the last few years being used in paddocks and its still factory suspension is working perfectly.
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And any educated person will know I've been taking the piss out of it the whole time since I read your drivel in the other thread. Plus, having owned an XD, and raced against fully worked 250's in Cortina's (which are 200-250kg lighter than your boat!!) I know what to expect with performance from the good old crossflow motor. And yours simply doesn't cut the mustard. It almost sounds like it couldn't pull a drunk sailor off a woman.

p.s the XR6 rims offer the ability for wider tires and are actually about the same weight as the standard steelies.
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About = Heavier with an excuse attached for doing it. And ricey too since they aren't lightweight rims, it's all for poser value. If you were SERIOUS about wider tyres, you would've fitted AU or even BA rims which allow bigger width allround, let alone giving you a bigger wheel diameter.

P.S. Scaff's still waiting for your proof of flogging M3's. :lol:
 
If that thing can flog M3s I guess my mum's Mazda 6 absolutely TRASHES them. And it's a four cylinder. With an autobox. And fairly worn OEM tires.
 
It could probably corner faster than this M3

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Oh, and please don't double post, SatansReverence. Use the edit button, or the multi quote feature, in future. Thanks.
 
:lol: @ Daan. I have to admit I didn't think about 'M3 Motorway'.....I actually was dumb enough to go looking for an M3 in the pic. :embarrassed::dunce:
 
mafia_boy
And even then I doubt that in any language. It's a boat, always has been.


See, you're thinking new ones which are as heavy as your XD boat, I'm not. An E30 will take down an XD/XE/XF auto. And the ones beaten by trucks are usually driven by middle-aged women who want the status symbol of the BMW badge and aren't really racing. ;)


Because the standard single core is a pile of crap and needs to be changed.



And any educated person will know I've been taking the piss out of it the whole time since I read your drivel in the other thread. Plus, having owned an XD, and raced against fully worked 250's in Cortina's (which are 200-250kg lighter than your boat!!) I know what to expect with performance from the good old crossflow motor. And yours simply doesn't cut the mustard. It almost sounds like it couldn't pull a drunk sailor off a woman.



About = Heavier with an excuse attached for doing it. And ricey too since they aren't lightweight rims, it's all for poser value. If you were SERIOUS about wider tyres, you would've fitted AU or even BA rims which allow bigger width allround, let alone giving you a bigger wheel diameter.

P.S. Scaff's still waiting for your proof of flogging M3's. :lol:
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The difference between a boat (standard) and mine is more then immence. I do not get much if any body roll and as I said it goes faster around corners then just about anything (its very funny when someone tries to take me on the inside of a 2 lane round about)

With regards to the radiator being a "must" change item, my old XD that I used as a paddock basher only had the single core and even during ~38 degree summer days never overheated. The current tripple core is actually abit overkill.

See, you are just talking rubbish about making it "ricey".

I have seen these model cars (D, E and F) with 17's and up and they look rediculous.

The 16's keep some of the old car looks but with the slight modern touchs.

Over all, the Ghia headlights with the in built driving lights, the grill and bonnet meeting half way down, the proportioned rim size etc etc give it, IMO, a retro modern look.

Hopefully have time tommorow to clean it up abit and take some more pics maybe even a vid of its ferocious turning capabilities and its house fly like direction changes (I don't like the handling of the V8's front end is too heavy)

p.s if you mean boaty as in the steering wheel play then yes, there is some but unlike new family cars (which it essentially is) it doesn't sway and pitch and make you motion sick as you sway up the road.
 
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Rotary Junkie
I find it interesting the striking resemblance your car has to the VK Commodore used in the "Nobody Likes A Bogan" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8gJoT5yl4

1980s Aussie sedan, check. 16" alloys, check. Windshield sticker, check. Now all you need is a weird graphic on the front fender and a spoiler.
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The bommadore wasn't Australian in the early 80's.(and hardly is to this day)

Designed in europe if memory serves :)

Also, I am thinking of removing that window sticker because it actually has a kenwood system :embarrassed:

p.s I bet $3.50 that the car in the vid is on re-caps :sly:
 
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SatansReverence
I guess I should have said newer not newest and I clearly said it beating such cars in the corners.
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After riding in a friend's E46 before & after he modified it, I can confidently say you won't be beating an E46 M3 through anything soon. BMW makes sure its M3s can always deliver in the handling department & you're claiming you've been newer ones through corners.

The only M3 I think you can take is a US-Spec E36 model, but I have my doubts there as well.
 
SatansReverence
I guess I should have said newer not newest and I clearly said it beating such cars in the corners.
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So now you are claiming that it handles better than say, and E30 M3?

Sorry but this is going to have to be backed up, because nothing, and I do mean nothing, that you have posted so far gets close to backing up your story.

Proof is what is required here, I know exactly what lateral-g's a E46 M3 will pull at peak on standard tyres, now let me know (with some form of proof) what you can do or retract the claim.


SatansReverence
p.p.s will try to get that cardboard sign but the light and contrast didn't agree with it yesterday.
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What are you on about, how exactly was the light and contrast not good enough for a cardboard sign written on with magic marker?

When you answer keep in mind that quite a few of us here are keen photographers and know what we are talking about, also keep in mind with all your replies the following bit of the AUP.

You will not post any material that is knowingly false, misleading, or inaccurate.
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Scaff
 
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SatansReverence
The difference between a boat (standard) and mine is more then immence. I do not get much if any body roll and as I said it goes faster around corners then just about anything (its very funny when someone tries to take me on the inside of a 2 lane round about)
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I could name about 40 cars that would have their way with your boat, my own car included. But to make it simple, an Elise would molest you all the way around the roundabout, corners, straights. Hell, a stock WRX or Evo would smash your Falcon around any bend. :lol: I'm debating who's dribbling more crap at the moment.....you in this thread with your supercar equalling handling on your Falcon, or mazdaman in the Imports thread with his "Intake Block".

With regards to the radiator being a "must" change item, my old XD that I used as a paddock basher only had the single core and even during ~38 degree summer days never overheated. The current tripple core is actually abit overkill.
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You got one of the few XD's without radiator problems, congrats. But the point is, that's not a real modification. Go get a custom alloy radiator to contain 400hp like I had to.

See, you are just talking rubbish about making it "ricey".

I have seen these model cars (D, E and F) with 17's and up and they look rediculous.

The 16's keep some of the old car looks but with the slight modern touchs.
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It is ricey, plain and simple!! Unlike you who pinched someone else's used rims for your boat, I actually went and got proper lightweight rims for my car that improved it's grip and turning capabilities and lightened the car by 40kg total. Then upgraded to 4 pot calipers and bigger rotors to improve braking even further so I can go extra deep into turns.

Over all, the Ghia headlights with the in built driving lights, the grill and bonnet meeting half way down, the proportioned rim size etc etc give it, IMO, a retro modern look.
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No....there's no modern about it. It's from 1982, it's just retro, period.

Hopefully have time tommorow to clean it up abit and take some more pics maybe even a vid of its ferocious turning capabilities and its house fly like direction changes (I don't like the handling of the V8's front end is too heavy)
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Not good enough. Prove that your boat can smash M3's around bends as you claim then we'll be satisfied.

p.s if you mean boaty as in the steering wheel play then yes, there is some but unlike new family cars (which it essentially is) it doesn't sway and pitch and make you motion sick as you sway up the road.
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Your boat IS NOT essentially a new family car, it's a 27yr old Found On Rubbish Dump Falcon!! That's like me saying just because I've done an engine, driveline, exhaust, brake & wheel change on my X83 Cressida that I have a brand new car. I don't. The body is still 20yrs old!!
 
McLaren
After riding in a friend's E46 before & after he modified it, I can confidently say you won't be beating an E46 M3 through anything soon. BMW makes sure its M3s can always deliver in the handling department & you're claiming you've been newer ones through corners.

The only M3 I think you can take is a US-Spec E36 model, but I have my doubts there as well.
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My car can do the 600 foot slalom at around 70 mph as stock, in the right hands... but the last time I met an M3 on track, the moment he passed me on the infield (that's the slow and twisties, not a place where he could use his power easily), I didn't see which way he went two corners later. And I was pushing... hard.

With the new tires and suspension, I'm hoping to find out if I can keep up, but my track visits in the past six months have been pretty... sparse.
 
SatansReverence
I used to run pirellis but had to cut back on cost and I couldn't actually find any that were brand new.

So at the moment I have no idea what exactly they are but they are about 5 KP/h slower around them 'round abouts o_O
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So, you come here saying your Falcon corners better than an M3, and you don't even know what tyres are fitted on your car? :rolleyes:
Nevermind. It's not like tyres play an important role in cornering grip or anything...

Plus, you're trying to back your statement of how well your car corners while saying your currently fitted tyres suck, but the car, even with shotty tyres, outperforms "just about anything" in corners. Awesome...

Can you please provide some examples of half-decent cars that have been beaten by your car in corners (while trying, of course)?
 
Also, I know something this fool doesn't. Pirelli's are no longer sold to the public here in Australia. ;) So he will NEVER, EVER EVER EEEEEEEEEEEVER, get the same handling performance he claims he had. :sly:

How do I know this? My cousin's missus works very high up there and he only gets them on his car because she works for them. 👍
 
I'm going off what I've been told from the source, they won't be around. So get them while you can.

*added bit* The tyre place they've (Pirelli site) got listed in my old area (Guildford) doesn't do them anymore, they were only a couple of streets from me.
 
mafia_boy
Also, I know something this fool doesn't. Pirelli's are no longer sold to the public here in Australia. ;) So he will NEVER, EVER EVER EEEEEEEEEEEVER, get the same handling performance he claims he had. :sly:
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It's a 1980s Ford Granada. He could have tires made by Jesus and he still wouldn't be able to back up his claims.
 
Jondot
It's a 1980s Ford Granada. He could have tires made by Jesus and he still wouldn't be able to back up his claims.
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What the hell is a Granada? The Falcon was a soley unique model to Australia for 99% of the nameplate's life, and no Falcons have ever been exported under a different name.;)

Edit: Looked up Granada, very different to the Falcon. The Falcon probably does actually handle better than that thing.:lol:
 

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