One make race- what is wrong with Opel Speedster race?

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A Fatal Goodbye
Thanks!

Haha yea I conisder myself pretty good but I have lots to work on.

It's just really hard for me to race flawless or near-flawless races, so that nitrous helps a lot.
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Nitrous is a poor crutch, IMHO is a cheats tool to make up for poor driving.
I have the Speedster NA with race exhaust, race chip, turbo 3, port polish and balance to boost the HPs and then i adjusted the race suspension to fit my drive style. Added a race tranny and flywheel / clutch pkg with the 1.5 LSD too and it barely got me my wins.
The AI can catch me on the straights but in cornering i had them beat, they would brake too early and with the NA's power band the acceleration away from the corners is what i had to beat them with.
All my wins were within 2 seconds or less, very challenging :)
 
Hehe, bumping a two-and-a-half year thread... ah, well.

Haven't tried this race yet (my data got corrupted a while ago and haven't played much since)
 
jrbabbitt
Nitrous is a poor crutch, IMHO is a cheats tool to make up for poor driving.
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It would all depend on what you are driving and what against. Try a saleen race for 200 points at suzuka, with-out nitrous and see if you place first then. :sly:

Daniel
Hehe, bumping a two-and-a-half year thread... ah, well.

Haven't tried this race yet (my data got corrupted a while ago and haven't played much since)
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But at least they didn't start another one, which then would probably have been locked and wasted a moderators time. 👍
 
Open Addict
It would all depend on what you are driving and what against. Try a saleen race for 200 points at suzuka, with-out nitrous and see if you place first then. :sly:
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You have me there, i am not "that' good but i still will not use nitrous, i would just try harder to improve my skill. :bowdown:
 
I had to upgrade my Speedster to DTM level to be able to win. That's how friggin' hard it is.
 
driftking18594
I had to upgrade my Speedster to DTM level to be able to win. That's how friggin' hard it is.
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What does this entail?
Also, I've been working on this Opel series for the past 3 days. I've spent numerous hours just fine tuning my suspension to try and dial out the awful understeer with some success. BTW, I run mine in B-spec so all the practicing was done as such (my B-spec driver really sucks!). I have been modding a turbo version so I may have to get an NA version and have a go with it. The track I have the most difficulty with is the second track in the series--autumn ring? Running above level 3 in B-spec drives the car off the track in the same spot each lap. What a drag!
 
MOTRSPRT
What does this entail?
Also, I've been working on this Opel series for the past 3 days. I've spent numerous hours just fine tuning my suspension to try and dial out the awful understeer with some success. BTW, I run mine in B-spec so all the practicing was done as such (my B-spec driver really sucks!). I have been modding a turbo version so I may have to get an NA version and have a go with it. The track I have the most difficulty with is the second track in the series--autumn ring? Running above level 3 in B-spec drives the car off the track in the same spot each lap. What a drag!
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You need to kick B-Spec Bob outta da seat and drive it yerself, and yes, get the NA version and add the turbo 3 to it, race exhaust, Full custom tranny and the race clutch pack, engine port polish, balancing and the chip too, Race tires and maybe weight reduction too!
 
jrbabbitt
You need to kick B-Spec Bob outta da seat and drive it yerself, and yes, get the NA version and add the turbo 3 to it, race exhaust, Full custom tranny and the race clutch pack, engine port polish, balancing and the chip too, Race tires and maybe weight reduction too!
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I did this today. B-spec'r just wasn't cutting it. Reacting too slow to making easy passes, bumping on the straights instead of passing, etc. So, I took over mainly to see how my car was handling as the B-spec'r can mask any over/understeer issues which may exist. To my surprise, my Opel handled fantastically! There was oversteer when I induced it, and otherwise it handled like it was on rails. After 3 attempts, I completed Infineon by winning with 3.2 seconds over second placer. This was the last race I needed to win gold in the Opel Speedster series. For reference, here's the way my car is setup:

Opel Speedster NA
Stage 3 turbo
Racing exhaust
Chip
Racing R4 tires
Racing brakes
Racing suspension
Full custom transmission on 11
Triple plate clutch
Racing flywheel
Driving aids-->Oversteer on 6
Aerodynamics-->all on 30
Limited Slip-->1.5

IMHO, the biggest effect the suspension made was changing the sway bars in such a way as to tighten up the rearend to keep it from oversteering so badly. I have my swaybars as 6/7 F/R respectively. Finally, there's no way I would've been able to do the races on R3 tires or less. I know some guys on here have stated that they've never raced on anything greater than R3's, but I tried. The car just drove better for me with the R4's.
 
-raVer-
NA Speedster with Turbo upgrade :confused:

Why?

How much Power and Weight does this Speedster have?


Respectfully

raVer
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if you get the Turbo Speedster with the Turbo 3 upgrade you have LESS HP than the NA Speedster with the same turbo upgrade, and with the AI competition all tuned to the max, you need to do same to win.
 
Hiya Guys:
Just to give you some general info...I ran both cars @ the Speedster Cup not long ago. Maxxed out, the "Speedster" showed 334HP (probably on the Replay screen) while the "Speedster Turbo" showed 361HP. With my aged reactions I found the lower HP "Speedster" to be quickest at all five venues, with the advantage varying from a mere 0.130 Seconds @ Grand Valley to the largest margin of 5.482 Seconds @ Infineon. (This is the difference between the Opels' times , NOT the M.O.V. over the other cars!!!)

Ten Races = Ten Wins + 2,000 A-Spec Points (whatever they're good for!!!) :guilty: + 65,000 Credits! I'm pretty sure I only ran each race once so there may be more time to find w/practice and/or different opponent line-ups...O.G.
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Old Geezer
Ten Races = Ten Wins + 2,000 A-Spec Points[/B] (whatever they're good for!!!) :guilty: I'm pretty sure I only ran each race once so there may be more time to find w/practice and/or different opponent line-ups...O.G.
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:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
 
Old Geezer
Ten Races = Ten Wins + 2,000 A-Spec Points[/B] (whatever they're good for!!!) :guilty:
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Although you will only be awarded 1000 A-Spec points in total as you don't get extra for doing the races again for another 200 each.
Example of A-Spec points, Run an event you do not have points in for say 100. Win the race and get the 100 points.
Now do the race again, but try and be offered more points, like 120. If you win the race, your A-Spec points will increase by 20 points NOT the 120, because you already have won 100.
 
Open Addict
Although you will only be awarded 1000 A-Spec points in total as you don't get extra for doing the races again for another 200 each.
Example of A-Spec points, Run an event you do not have points in for say 100. Win the race and get the 100 points.
Now do the race again, but try and be offered more points, like 120. If you win the race, your A-Spec points will increase by 20 points NOT the 120, because you already have won 100.
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Very True Open Addict. 👍 I actually received the only 1,000 pts offered the first time thru the game, many years ago. Just getting in a little "Jab" @ PD for their senseLESS point system. These races require a nearly Maxxed out ride for 200 pts while other races award 200 for a near stock version. And while I'm at it...WHY 200 Points anyhow??? Why not 100 or 500 or 1,000 as the ultimate award??? 200 has always struck me as an "Odd" number. :crazy:

THANX for the :bowdown: jrbabbitt 👍 but if I can best these guys anyone can. Just know going in you'll need lots of HP & lots of practice doesn't hurt either.
...O.G.
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-raVer-
NA Speedster with Turbo upgrade :confused:

Why?

How much Power and Weight does this Speedster have?


Respectfully

raVer
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This is the reality I found. After reading through previous posts on this very thread, people explained that the NA is lighter than the Turbo. Build up your NA with identical mod's as you would the Turbo version and you'll have a better handling machine than the Turbo. I tried it and found the fact was true. I spent many hours fine tuning my Turbo model to no avail. It responded more slowly than what I found happening with the NA. Heh, my NA handled so well I could drive it myself :dunce: . That's how I won the Opel races. I even posted some of my tuning adjustments above which aided my car.
Old Geezer, you bring up a good point about the A-spec points. But, the prize car is worth the effort for winning! At least the value of the car...
 
Thanks jrbabitt and MOTRSPRT for your explanation 👍

I ran this series with the Turbo Speedster with all power ups showing 344 or something HP on R3 Tyres.


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raVer
 
For all you struggling with the Speedster series, here's a car for you. Based on the NA version and easily fast enough to kill the opposition in good hands even on S3 tyres.

 
^^Coulda used those settings two weeks ago!!! I hate dumping huge amounts of credits into a car not worth the investment I made in tires alone.
 
I bought the speedster turbo thinking that it was the better car for the race I bought some upgrades for it but the other cars were much better then me. I could barely keep up with them on a straightaway.
 
tvr speed12
I bought the speedster turbo thinking that it was the better car for the race I bought some upgrades for it but the other cars were much better then me. I could barely keep up with them on a straightaway.
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Yeh, I think a lot of us essentially ended up wasting all the money we put into Turbo Speedsters. The non-turbo has the edge in this case.
 
Well, if I remember anything (haven't played the game in ages thanks to it being broken) the NA version doesn't suffer from turbo lag and also has better abilities in corners due to less power. Kind of logical really.
 
tvr speed12
It just doesnt make any sense that the non-turbo will be better because it always seems like something with turbo is better
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It just goes to show that there's more to a car than how big a turbo it has.
 
Btw I was saying that I thought the turbo one would be better before i ever drove or even bought any of the versions of the car (NA or turbo). But obviously after buying and driving the cars I know which one is better
 

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