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- Dennisch
But this is way importanter!!
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So, who's going to break first - Pell or McClellan?
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-25/bradley-come-home-and-face-the-commission-pell/6494330
Nice to see a Royal Commission being used for an issue that is in the public interest for once. The last two were politically-motivated witch hunts.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-25/bradley-come-home-and-face-the-commission-pell/6494330
Nice to see a Royal Commission being used for an issue that is in the public interest for once. The last two were politically-motivated witch hunts.
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http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politic...uizzed-on-housing-bubble-20150601-ghe3y1.html
What a complete bell**d.
Then again him and Hockey own over 10 houses between them so self interest much?
What a complete bell**d.
Then again him and Hockey own over 10 houses between them so self interest much?
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"Let them eat cake"
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- mustafur
Cap'n Jack
Premium
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Sure. I'll just pick one off the job tree!
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- mustafur
Make sure to ask for a payrise aswell everytime house prices go up.
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Did anybody else see that photo of Abbott posted by The Daily Mail where he's posing with a (screaming) child and appears to have a black eye and grazed knuckles like he'd been in a fight?
That read was hilariously stupid.
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Don't expect anything to come of it. Neither side will push the other too hard for fear that the other will just turn around and put pressure back on them. The government has far more important things to do, like trying to turn the public broadcasters into propaganda networks; meanwhile, the opposition - or should that be flopposition? - will be too busy trying to avoid awkward questions in the politically-motivated witch hunt that is the latest Royal Commission.
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New round of racism shown with the Adam Goodes situation - but no, not like that. The institutions of the AFL and the Sydney Swans have shown racism in choosing to differentiate between aboriginal and non-aboriginal Australians.
When Goodes simulated threatening an opposition crowd with a spear, the act should have been treated as any other out of line act would - but it wasn't. Several players have received reprimands from the AFL for merely "flipping the bird" to opposition supporters, and Mark Williams from Hawthorn was suspended by his club for simulating shooting the ball with a gun after he'd kicked a goal.
The AFL and the clubs can choose to punish, forgive, endorse, or celebrate acts however they want, but inconsistencies based on race should be suitably judged as racist. A player putting himself above the team and provoking the opposition would usually be "raked over the coals" by his club. A player making such threatening gestures towards any other person would usually be sanctioned by the AFL. In this case, both have not only endorsed, but celebrated the act.
Goodes should have apologised to Carlton supporters, his team, and the AFL. If he had, I doubt we'd be where we are now. He seems like a great guy, but even great guys act like tools on occasion - and maybe more than anywhere else in the world, acting like a tool will tend to have repercussions here.
Edit - Not sure that I'm ok with myself for calling this racism. Political correctness might be more accurate and less inflammatory. I'm not trying to be inflammatory.
When Goodes simulated threatening an opposition crowd with a spear, the act should have been treated as any other out of line act would - but it wasn't. Several players have received reprimands from the AFL for merely "flipping the bird" to opposition supporters, and Mark Williams from Hawthorn was suspended by his club for simulating shooting the ball with a gun after he'd kicked a goal.
The AFL and the clubs can choose to punish, forgive, endorse, or celebrate acts however they want, but inconsistencies based on race should be suitably judged as racist. A player putting himself above the team and provoking the opposition would usually be "raked over the coals" by his club. A player making such threatening gestures towards any other person would usually be sanctioned by the AFL. In this case, both have not only endorsed, but celebrated the act.
Goodes should have apologised to Carlton supporters, his team, and the AFL. If he had, I doubt we'd be where we are now. He seems like a great guy, but even great guys act like tools on occasion - and maybe more than anywhere else in the world, acting like a tool will tend to have repercussions here.
Edit - Not sure that I'm ok with myself for calling this racism. Political correctness might be more accurate and less inflammatory. I'm not trying to be inflammatory.
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Video uploaded by the AFL via their official Youtube channel.....
To be honest, I don't know where to point you for the stories on that, or on what's followed. There are plenty out there, but almost all take a fairly extreme view from one side or the other - which is not surprising when a person is singled out for exclusive treatment. Net searches will readily yield many articles though.
From what I understand the "war cry" was misrepresented, and didn't belie it's traditional use. At least if it was used as a celebration maybe towards his own Sydney fans it would have had a very different vibe I think. A poor choice that should be treated as such. It seems political correctness asks that it not be though.
At present, there's perhaps a bit of martyrdom at play with Goodes choosing not to play on the weekend just gone.
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They have always abused it, the people knew about it.
It is just this time Bishop went a little too far and the media made a crap storm about it.
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Got anything other than a newspaper headline to offer?
What exactly are you referring to when you say racist? https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-espy-awards.331850/page-7 post #206
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So first, Goodes brought it on himself because he directed his war dance celebration towards opposing fans. Which is rubbish because if you watch NRL or the A-League or American Football, anyone who scores celebrates in front of the opposing team's fans.
Now, apparently, Goodes is held to a different standard so the fans should be free to express themselves to a different standard and expect it to be accepted. Which is also rubbish, because this isn't the first time he has been booed by the crowd - eighteen months ago, he was continually booed by Collingwood supporters every time he scored. There was no war dance celebration and no-one else got booed, so what was it then?
It's easy to make excuses. It's easy to try and justify it. But at the end of the day, the truth is inescapable: it's racism. And the longer you try to deny it, the longer it will take and the harder it will be to address the problem.
Now, apparently, Goodes is held to a different standard so the fans should be free to express themselves to a different standard and expect it to be accepted. Which is also rubbish, because this isn't the first time he has been booed by the crowd - eighteen months ago, he was continually booed by Collingwood supporters every time he scored. There was no war dance celebration and no-one else got booed, so what was it then?
It's easy to make excuses. It's easy to try and justify it. But at the end of the day, the truth is inescapable: it's racism. And the longer you try to deny it, the longer it will take and the harder it will be to address the problem.
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Simple, people just don't like Adam Goodes as a person. Sure, being upset over a war cry is a bit silly and I think it was only react badly because the fire was pretty bad, however the reason why it is lit in the first place is because people just simply don't like Adam Goodes. He is overly sensitive to Criticism and likes to throw Racism as an excuse so much that the word pretty much loses meaning. If people booed Goodes because of his race, wouldn't you think other AFL players of his race would be boo'd too?
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I think it's only fair to stay with apples to apples. Rationales, rules - both written and unwritten, vary greatly from one sport to the next. By AFL standards for the organisation itself and the clubs, he was given preferential treatment. It does the plight of aboriginal Australians no favours to have a divide encouraged.
Some players are, some players aren't. The fans have their reasons, but I think that race would barely factor. If people think he's been behaving like a tool, they should approach him in the same manner as they would any other player they believe has acted like a tool. For some that is to boo. To withhold based on race alone would be, yes..... racist. Often booing is taken as a compliment, with many an elite player copping on that alone. He has absolutely been an elite player.
And to call it racism when it's not is a very dangerous place to go.
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He's the most successful and the most prominent indigenous player, and therefore a symbol of all indigenous players. By booimg him, the fans are booing all indigenous players.
We're in the age of the microparty, but the major players are moving to limit their ability to win seats. Between Palmer, Lambie and Lazarus, the system is already swollen with them. Although I would like to believe that Nick Xenophon's party can get off the ground. He's the only man of honour in the den of thieves that is Canberra.
No, it was the people who kicked up a stink because Bishop treated the public with contempt. She might have repaid the charter fees with the 25% penalty, but she justified the expense by claiming that she met with a confidential source to discuss work-life balance for a parliamentary inquiry - a source that no-one else on the inquiry board knew about because Bishop didn't enter any paperwork on it.
And, of course, Abbott's response was to botch the entire response (@TenEightyOne will like this one) - after the way he went after Peter Slipper after a handful of Cabcharge receipts when Slipper was Speaker (the Ashby allegations notwithstanding, but I reckon the Libs had something to do with that), but now that his own Speaker is embroiled in a similar scandal only much bigger and much more public, he resists replacing her for three weeks and then tries to blame it on everything but the Speaker.
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It could all be a simple, honest mistake this time round. Just like it was when Abbott himself made a simple honest mistake. When kangaroos fly, of course. To my mind debacles like this highlight one way in which modern politics has evolved in the face of instant social media; if you can show enough immigrants, Cecil the Lions, IS bombings and Olympic-standard swimming pool extensions then the public will quickly turn their heads away from the real meat of the problems. Abbott clearly thinks he just has to ride this out and it could be okay. Sadly he might be right.
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Taken on its own, maybe. But his tenure as Prime Minister has been marked by a string of broken promises, leadership challenges, inflammatory rhetoric, baffling policy decision, crackdowns on freedom of the press, criminalising humanitarian efforts, and using Royal Commissions for character assassination. He's the worst Prime Minister we've ever had, but he's convinced himself that he has single-handedly fixed the country.
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So just because he is the most successful and prominent Indigenous player, we are not allowed to Boo him because that would be racist???
It's this sort of attitude that gives Adam Goodes that Shield in the first place. Their are only 2 main reasons why People Boo in a Sporting event.
1. They're apart of the opposing team (or in non-team sense, they are against someones favourite player)
2. They despise a Person. Usually due to the actions they do.
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Rubbish, the other 70 indigenous players don't get booed at all. So it's only racism when Goodes is involved?
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