Like I said, I took it as personal since you directly quoted something I said, twice. As far as these TT's, yes, all they are is friendly competitions. There is nothing here at stake so there is nothing to be gained from them as far as some sort of prize. We have the Academy for that. Furtermore, you can't really view how you stack up against everyone because a lot of the top drivers don't participate so all the rankings are really are a rough estimate of how you stack up against the people that play GT6. That's why I continually say that I am only an average driver at best. For proof of that, keep an eye on the Academy and watch how far I fall from my usual top 100 finishes here. The Academy is the true benchmark as far as measuring your skill level against others.
Also, you are giving tuning way too much credit. A good tune is only worth .500 at the very most, more likey around .300-.400, anything else is just placebo effect or due to getting better at the event. A good tune helps yes, but it certainly isn't going to take you from 2000 down to 200 on the board, that is just absurd to think a tune is going to help you that much. Giving away tunes is in no way skewing the top 1000 spots as you say, again, tuning does not play that big of a role. Want proof of that too? Then watch a non tuning event and see where everyone ends up. The results are going to be pretty much the same. I'm sorry, but your idea of us sharing tunes here as
"making a mockery of the leaderboard" is just silly. I mean, you can raise all the holy hell you want, its not going to change the fact that this is just a game and most of us are just here to have fun and compete on a friendly basis, making friends and helping each other along the way. Anyone who takes these Seasonal TT's as a dead set serious way of measuring your skill level against the rest of the world is just fooling themselves as far as the big picture goes. Like I said, pay attention to the upcoming Academy and you will see what I mean.
THIS is the kind of answer I was asking for, and thank you very much!
I only used the quotes from you to say something in the exact same way you said them earlier, without the possibility of someone saying I was putting words in your mouth. I promise you no negative connotation was meant. This is not a "gotchya" conversation, OK? I know where I am, and I would not do that on this thread.
I think you underestimate the impact upon the leaderboards from folks who can drive their way to the top, but can't create their own tunes. And if you wish, we can leave it there. I can't quantify it, I just know some are there that have no business having a "bragging right" better than my own. Fair enough?
If, however, you'll please read the General Questions thread
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/why-are-the-recent-seasonals-so-difficult.306892/ you'll see that not all of your compatriots agree with your assertion that these rankings mean nothing but fun. And whereas with the never-ending SRF/aids debates I can usually go away happy after putting in my two cents worth of increasingly useless opinion, that GQ thread unjustifiably got under my nerves. Is it not a basic hypocrisy to go around thinking you (the Royal "you", not you personally, Cargo) are "all that" and you're an elite member of a select few because you bravely "refuse to use SRF" when all the while you can't go two weeks without seeking out someone else's work product to get a better time in what has become the only way we all get together in the GT6 world?
I appreciate your answer, Cargo, as I do JoelEdward for his. In general, it's fairly easy to spot those who actually deserve some credit for their exploits here and the crows that can be safely humoured or ignored altogether.
I think I know for the upcoming Academy that the actual competition will weed out the pretenders and no one undeserving will get world honours or anything, but for the Seasonals I just wish I could better trust (to a degree, my world neither rises nor falls upon the rankings) what the numbers tell me.
In any case, you DO do good work here and I wish you all the best in the upcoming Academy sessions, as I do all who will attempt this event. They DO make you keep your eyes on your own paper, right? (that's a joke, seriously)
I'd be happy to see any other reasonable responses to this subject.
EDIT TO CARGO: Terribly sorry, I just realized I had never addressed this specifically to the degree it warrants: I've copied this exactly as you bolded it:
It's kind of amusing that it's a faux pas to use two or more accounts because "it still takes positions away from me as far as my best positions go" yet it's perfectly acceptable to share full tuning spec sheets with not just members of GTP, but anyone wandering around the internet. "Put yourself in the little guys shoes"; well I know it's my choice to not steal your work, but how do you think us folk just a little farther down the board under our own power and ability feel about people getting top times without doing their own work?
I didn't twist anything, the context of the first quote is you reminding others that a top ten position is sacred if you can get there and it's not polite at all to take two. I simply applied that statement as written to my own position, albeit much farther down the board. I get that ANYthing in the top 100 even is far grander than me and my 4 or 2000s, but in some small petty corner in the back of my mind, it's still important to me. You see? The second quote was to remind you that those behind you, no matter how far, are little guys too. At what point do our perspectives not matter? This is not going to be "solved", I have no hope of that, or really even the desire. It IS a game, and you folks play it as you wish. I simply saw where the overheated hoard might need a little cooling off and a reminder that others exist around here who do not participate in this sharing, and maybe the hoseas some are now seeking could be scaled back a bit in the name of modesty and propriety.
I am now able to keep up with you through the first sector, losing all my time mostly with those two 90 degree left right turns and through the kink to the line. I can't believe what a difference it made in the first sector though, just wow.
, it makes a huge difference. I couldn't believe how far ahead of my ghost I was as it was a very slow first half of lap but going by reference, I was on course to beat my fastest time again until I messed up last corner. So close the barriers though and at mercy of SRF kicking in at right moment. Most of time I try to do it your way but if I get good entry at start of last sector I try something different and sometimes it works really well if I get SRF to kick in.
