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PROJECT
GTR
Whats going on GTP, I hope everyone is having a fine day. Since GT5 landed November 2010 I have been working on a project. The project is called GTR, I guarantee when everyone read the thread title first thought in mind had to be oh this must be a review on the mighty GT-R I am sorry to disappoint you guys but this is not the case. The R actually means reality, when playing GT5 I try to make the experience as close to reality but at the same time keep it in the game boundary. I believe this system will give any person who loves gaming and automotive a fun and educational experience. So you are probably questioning how realistic is this project going to be. To be honest this project is going to be as realistic as the community makes it, but please be aware this style of play is going to not your typical method of game play. To give you a better understanding on Project GTR I decided to do a series of small reviews. In these reviews you will be giving a preview on what to expect when you decided to enter Project GTR, but before I get started I want to give the community details on some PGTR regulation.
PGTR will try to mimic real life activities and situations we deal with our cars. To make sure members get a realistic and fun experience all must follow a set number of rules and regulations.
Heavy damage, fuel and tire wear real, real track grip conditions
No driving Line
Must mimic car characteristic
Gas Charge
Mechanical charges
Tire wear/Tire change
Damage charge
Power loss
Driver moral
Vehicle moral
Club moral
Power upgrade matching to real life counter part
Product weight matching to real life counter part
Each car will have a unique way in which assist effect the vehicle.
ABS: In Project GTR vehicles will be run as closely as possible to emulate their real word counterparts. So when it comes to assist you will mimic your cars electronic devices so it matches it counterpart. So this mean if my car has ABS I get to use ABS? Yes and no. With GT5 braking system I feel that ABS 0 gives you a realistic experience more so with it on. This does not mean a driver cannot use ABS, in the end it depends on the car and what electronic devices you decide to use. In Order to use ABS a car must have.
ABS
ASM
The car must be driven with ASM on
The car must have a mode where even if you turn off the ASM there are some assist helping you (Nissan VDC)
Your vehicle will run with ABS off when..
The car doesnt come with ABS
Car has no ASM
The car AMS system is off
The braking system in Project GTR also plays a huge role on the braking balance. Depending on the car, the braking balance must be set to a fixed value. Example Mitsubishi Evolution II F:1 R:0 Mitsubishi Evolution 9 F:3 R:1.
ASM: With ASM its pretty simple if your car comes standard with it you can use it, and if it does not come with ASM you CANNOT use it.
Traction Control: Pretty simple if your car is equipped with it you can use it. On drag runs, only cars with launch control can use TCS with ABS off and ASM off.
Next on PGTR
Get a Grip
PGTR
(-Tire guide)
Get a Grip
PGTR
(-Tire guide)
In PGTR we will be using tire rack for our tire selection. When players want to get tire information or upgrade their tires you will have to go to tirerack.com. In PGTR majority of cars will come with comfort tires there are some cars which come with Sports tires but majority will come with comfort tires. Stock cars tire selection will be based on that specific cars skid pad numbers. This is a list of Skid pad numbers with the corresponding tires
0.96-1.06G's= CS
0.85-0.95G's= CM
0.00 0.84G's= CH
These are the skidpad numbers we will go by In PGTR for stock production cars tire selection. There are some cars that will get SH tires but those are special production cars. To give you guys example of cars with certain comfort tires here is a small list.
Acura RSX Type S 0.82g CH
Mitsubishi Evo VIII 0.97g CS
Acura NSX 0.91g CM
Chevrolet Z06 0.97g CS
Nissan 350Z 0.89g CM
Tire brand will also play a huge role in PGTR by effecting, tire wear, tire grip, dry grip, wet grip, tire weight. Players are going to have to choose tires that represent their driving skill to the max. Picking the right/wrong tires can make you and break you in PGTR.
Tire Wear
Different tires have different wear rates and this is going to affect players in PGTR. Unlike when you play gt5 you never have to worry about keeping up with your tires. This will not be the case in PGTR. As you put more miles on your car the tires will also be affected. The more miles you have on your car the more wear your tires will become. A driver in PGTR can start out with comfort soft on their vehicle and if they do not maintenance their tires they can end up in with comfort hard or even worst disqualified from driving their car. This is an example of tire wear in PGTR.
The example tire is Bridgestone Ponteza RE050A. This tire can be a comfort soft or a comfort medium depending on size. As you can see the tire has 500 miles total. This mean after 500 miles this tire will not work. You will notice the "300miles CS" this mean for 300miles the tire will give you CS tire grip. After 300 miles you then will get 100 miles on CM and ending the tires life with 100 miles CH. This will make the drives of PGTR care for their tires in a way you would in real life bring out new ways of competing.
Tire width/weight
As you get bigger tires in PGTR to obtain better grip, new rims etc you will have to look up the new tire weight and match it up with your cars weight. This is done by adding more weight to your car. Even though we cannot pick tire width in GT5 you will have to pick tire width in PGTR. Getting wider tires will add more weight to your car but it could also bump you up to another tire grip cartography or give you longer grip mileages. This will add a challenge to players making sure they add the right combination of tires to their vehicle.
Tire Grip/Dry/Wet
This is is the most important aspect of the tires in PGTR. This is going to affect your vehicle in the most dramatic way. Tire grip is going to determine what type of tire you will be eligible for in PGTR and how long the tire sustains the grip. Dry grip will also differ from wet grip. You might have a tire that gives you sport hard grip on dry pavment but in wet conditions give you comfort hard grip. From CH to RS you are going to have to go on Tirerack and pick accordingly to match up the tires you have in PGTR. This is a small list of tires and there grip correspondence in PGTR/GT5
Ultra High Performance Summer Tire.
Yokohama ADVAN A046 D(CS/SH) W(CM/CH)
Yokohama ADVAN A13C D(CS) W(CM/CH)
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2 D(CS) W(CM/CS)
Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 1 D(CS/CM) W(CS)
Bridgestone Expedia S-01 D(CS/CM) W(SH/CM)
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW D(CS/CM) W(CM)
Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval D(CM/CS) W(CM/CS)
Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport D(CM/CS) W(CM)
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-2 D(CM/CS) W(CM)
BFGoodrich g-Force Sport D(CM/CS) W(SH)
Bridgestone Potenza RE010 D(CM/CS) W(SH)
Bridgestone Potenza RE011 D(CM/CS) W(SH)
You will notice some tires having more than one type of grip, this is for the fact of some cars have bigger wheels then others. If we take a Michelin Pilot Exalto PE21 put it on a Mita it will give CM grip but if we put it on a 350Z it will become CS grip. You also will notice some tires have CM/CS grip. This mean originally the tire is a CM but if you go up in tire width it can become a CS tire. PGTR players when wanting to upgrade their tires will have to go on tirerack.com and pick the best combination. After picking your tire choice PM Me and I will give you the corresponding tire in GT5.
CH= comfort hard CM= comfort mediums CS= comfort soft SH= sports hard
SM= sports medium SS= sports soft D= dry W= wet
Ultra High Performance Summer Tire.
Yokohama ADVAN A046 D(CS/SH) W(CM/CH)
Yokohama ADVAN A13C D(CS) W(CM/CH)
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2 D(CS) W(CM/CS)
Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 1 D(CS/CM) W(CS)
Bridgestone Expedia S-01 D(CS/CM) W(SH/CM)
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW D(CS/CM) W(CM)
Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval D(CM/CS) W(CM/CS)
Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport D(CM/CS) W(CM)
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-2 D(CM/CS) W(CM)
BFGoodrich g-Force Sport D(CM/CS) W(SH)
Bridgestone Potenza RE010 D(CM/CS) W(SH)
Bridgestone Potenza RE011 D(CM/CS) W(SH)
Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500 D(CM/CS) W(CM)
Yokohama S.drive D(CM/CS) W(CM)
Dunlop SP Sport 01 A D(CM) W(CH)
General Exclaim UHP D(CM) W(CM)
Kumho Ecsta SPT 10 D(CH/CM) W(CM)
Fuzion ZRi D(CH/CM) W(SH/CM)
Sumitomo HTR Z II D(CH/CM) W(SH)
Dunlop SP Sport 8000 D(CH/CM) W(SH)
Dunlop SP Sport 01 D(CH/CM) W(SH)
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS D(CH/CM) W(CH/SH)
Bridgestone Potenza RE030 D(CM) W(CH/SH)
Sumitomo HTR Z D(CH/CM) W(SH)
Dunlop Direzza DZ101 D(CH/CM) W(CH/SH)
Goodyear Eagle ZR Gatorback 26 D(CH/CM) W(SM)
Bridgestone Potenza RE040 D(CH/CM) W(CH)
Dunlop SP Sport 01 DSST D(CH/CM) W(CH)
Dunlop SP Sport 2050 D(CH/CM) W(SM)
CH= comfort hard CM= comfort mediums CS= comfort soft SH= sports hard
SM= sports medium SS= sports soft D= dry W= wet
Max Performance Summer Tire
Michelin Pilot Super Sport D(CS/SH) W(CS)
Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position D(CS/SH) W(CS)
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 D(CS/SH) W(CS)
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position D(CS/SH) W(CM)
Pirelli P Zero D(CS) W(SH)
Bridgestone Potenza S-02 D(CS/SH) W(SH)
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar D(CS/SH) W(CH)
Kumho Ecsta LE SportD(CS) W(CM)
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric D(CS) W(CM)
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx TT D(CS) W(CM)
Bridgestone Potenza S-02 A D(CS) W(SM)
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT D(CS) W(CM)
Continental ContiSportContact 3 D(CS) W(CM)
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx D(CS) W(CM)
Pirelli P Zero Nero D(CS) W(CM)
Yokohama ADVAN Sport D(CS) W(SH/CM)
Bridgestone Potenza RE050A D(CS) W(SH)
Pirelli P Zero System D(CS) W(CM)
Continental ExtremeContact DW D(CM/CS) W(CS)
Sumitomo HTR Z III D(CS/CM) W(SH)
Pirelli P Zero Rosso D(CS/CM) W(SH)
Bridgestone Potenza RE050 D(CS/CM) W(SH)
Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110 D(CS/CM) W(CM)
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx A D(CS/CM) W(SH)
Continental ContiSportContact 2 D(CS/CM) W(SH)
CH= comfort hard CM= comfort mediums CS= comfort soft SH= sports hard
SM= sports medium SS= sport soft D= dry W= wet
Extreme Performance Summer Tire
Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 D(SH) W(SH/CM)
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec 2 D(SH) W(CM)
Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08 D(SH) W(CM)
Hankook Ventus R-S3 D(SH) W(CH)
Kumho Ecsta XS D(CS/SH) W(CH)
Bridgestone Potenza RE070 D(CS/SH)
Dunlop SP Sport 600 D(CS) W(CH)
CH= comfort hard CM= comfort mediums CS= comfort soft SH= sports hard
SM= sports medium SS= sports soft D= dry W= wet
Track & Competition DOT Tire
Kumho Ecsta V710 D(SM/SS) W(SS)
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 3 D(SM/SS) W(SM)
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup+ / N-Spec D(SM/SS)
Yokohama ADVAN A048 D(SM/SS) W(CH)
Pirelli P Zero Corsa System D(SH/SS) W(CM)
Hankook Ventus Z214 D(SM) W(SS)
Kumho VictoRacer V700 D(SH) W(CH)
BFGoodrich g-Force R1 D(SH) W(SS)
Kumho Ecsta V700 D(SH) W(SS)
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A Drag Radial D(RH) W(RH)
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A Drag Radial 2 D(RH) W(RH)
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