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Photo GT5 prologue VS Forza 3 Demo
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So you agreed not to do it when you registered here. It's in the AUP you clicked "I agree to the terms in the Acceptable Use Policy" to register.
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The AUP states you shouldn't double post, and use text speak like 'plz, y, cos, b4 etc'... Don't worry too much, just follow the rules. The moderators are usually helpful (with the exception of Famine
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No "texting speech": No shortened words to make the easier to type. For example, "u" "r" "plz" "thx" "idk" etc.
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The Acceptable Use Policy. You said that you'd read it when you registered (you clicked on the link that said you had). It's linked at the bottom of every page on this site just in case people have "forgotten" it in the meantime (or 2 days).
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Three different users all helping a new guy 👍. Sometimes im really impressed by community spirit. Maybe i should take a dose of that.
And no, that's not sarcastic, im being genuine.
Back the point made by G.T.Ace, I too am really keen to have explained what makes Forza 3 enviroments better than GT5. Im my opinion i dont see much difference.
All i ever seem to notice that the edges of the road and barriers look better in GT5.
And no, that's not sarcastic, im being genuine.
Back the point made by G.T.Ace, I too am really keen to have explained what makes Forza 3 enviroments better than GT5. Im my opinion i dont see much difference.
All i ever seem to notice that the edges of the road and barriers look better in GT5.
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I think Forza's track textures are quite good, although they do go abit OTT on the skid marks and pot holes. The canyon track which is featured in their 'demo' also has some odd Alien looking rocks, almost Halo like. The sky textures are good, as good as GT's anyway... I'd say they are on a par, with only their track boards being better than GT's. Having said that, the Grand Canyon rally track in GT now looks a little flat...
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The rocks look like that:
http://www.reiseinfoweb.com/wp-cont...alonien-montserrat-info-berg-montserrat-2.jpg
Its a real world location.
But so many people say "look at the 3D backgrounds" but the backgrounds further away are textures, while the Eiger in GT5P is a complete 3D model.
I also dont see much proper grass or flowers in Forza.
Note, i dont say FM3 looks bad, not at all, but i dont get some comments.
http://www.reiseinfoweb.com/wp-cont...alonien-montserrat-info-berg-montserrat-2.jpg
Its a real world location.
But so many people say "look at the 3D backgrounds" but the backgrounds further away are textures, while the Eiger in GT5P is a complete 3D model.
I also dont see much proper grass or flowers in Forza.
Note, i dont say FM3 looks bad, not at all, but i dont get some comments.
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I seem to remember somewhere that it was often quicker to uncompress the textures in game than read them uncompressed from the disc, can't remember where though.
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Sounds logical, especially considering the difference in read/write times between ram/hdd and optical disks. That's the number one reason for installing a game onto your PS3 hard disk.
A slightly related issue is that with the Forza 3 demo. My friend doesn't have the internet, so downloaded the Forza demo on his pc and burnt it to disk*. The demo runs quite happilly from the DVD but its very very very slow to load up. If he ever does get the internet at home, it would be interesting to see how much difference the loading times are compared to the downloaded version of the demo which would be installed directly on his xbox hard disk.
*Just to clarify, it's a demo, and his xbox is not modified, or anything illegal.
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sigh...
How can you use more and better textures GIVEN THE LIMITATION OF RAM???????????????
You could put a game on a terabyte hard disk and ingame textures would STILL be limited by RAM.
Anyway, lets forget that so we can live in your little world for a second. Explain why the textures are generally better in xbox 360 games if DVD's are such a bottle neck? (better textures is an opinion ofcourse)
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Because games are made on the 360 and then are PORTED to the PS3, name 1 SINGLE XBox 360 game whose texture look better than KZ2 or U2. I can't wait to see this.
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After reading another battle of the "Mother of video games war"...
The perfect game would be...
GT5's variety of cars, real life tracks, car modelling, lightning and cockpit modelling.
FM3's scenery, road surface details and car roll-over and damage.
Shift's sound and car-road contact feedback.
And the damage effects should be realistic. (No-no to hit a wall head on at 200km/h and the car's continue to work)
The perfect game would be...
GT5's variety of cars, real life tracks, car modelling, lightning and cockpit modelling.
FM3's scenery, road surface details and car roll-over and damage.
Shift's sound and car-road contact feedback.
And the damage effects should be realistic. (No-no to hit a wall head on at 200km/h and the car's continue to work)
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Sigh, i guess i will have to break it down for you, that even a 2 year old will understand.
Why does movies on blu ray and hd-dvd look 10x better then movies on a dvd disc? Because both hd formats doesnt require to be compressed to fit on a disc. Where dvd movies require it, which = loss of picture and sound quality. Which is why sony game developers in the pass has stated that they are able to stream uncompressed info from the bd disc due to the amount of storage BD can hold.
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Yes, you are correct, KZ2 = Killzone 2 and U2 = Uncharted 2
something is seriously wrong with the visuals of forza 3. i mean, graphically it is inferior but theres this kind of, hmm, overall graphical effect that makes it look like buffed plastic. i know some people think the environment looks better in forza, but i think, to me gt5p is more 'natural' in its appearance. the mountains 'look' like real mountains where as the ones in forza look like computer generated ones.
its like being able to spot cgi in a film as opposed to not even seeing the line blurring cgi and reality.
its like being able to spot cgi in a film as opposed to not even seeing the line blurring cgi and reality.
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No... and yes. It's my opinion. From all 3 games, the one I didn't try is FM3. That's why the items I picked from it are visual only, or visually-based like aesthetical damage and roll-over.
You can say that FM3 damage and roll-over isn't (visually) very realistic. I'll give you that and possibily you have tried out the game, something which, I remind, I haven't, so you'll probably right... but I mentioned because GT5
has no damage at all and - forgive me - until I see it properly I don't know if GT5 will have, or how realistic is it. For what I've saw at the moment from TGS videos it's... rubbish. (Ferrari heading to the rails and getting nothin but some paint scratches). So, lacking a GT5/GT5 proper comparison, I'll go for FM3 damage.As for scenery and track detail this is subjective. To me, background details are better on FM3 and track detail (tarmac, cracks, wear, dirt, etc.) are more real-life like too.
As for car handling, GT5
is very good, BUT fails in my opinion on the feedback it gives to you from the car/tire rolling on the track. My opinion - again! - Shift does this better, although on other handling aspects GT5 is better. GT5 (car handling speaking) looks more real, behaves/act more real BUT shifts feels more real, if you like. As for sound, Shift's definitevily better.As for the rest, GT5
is way ahead competition I think.
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Because they are uncompressed movies that were previously recorded. The comparison doesn't apply because one is the playback of a set of graphics and the other is the actual rendering of those graphics.
It doesn't matter, because even if the textures don't have to be uncompressed before being shown, the size of each texture and number of them able to be shown are still limited by the amount of VRAM that each system has. This is why, for example, the PC version of NFS Shift looks way better than both the 360 and PS3 version even though the game ships on a DVD for the PC. Because PCs of today are more powerful than the consoles on the market, they are able to render more graphics than either.
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Which is why Crysis looks so GOOOD
LOL.But, the more information you can store on the disc means that you have more you can pre-render meaning it won't take up any VRAM, giving you the possibility of having a greater amount of VRAM to render things that can't be pre-rendered.
Even still Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 easily look as good as some of the best looking PC games out there.
True, but you forget, you are talking about a multi plat game. mulit plat developers dont got the extra mile for the ps3 (at least in my opinion) but when you have devolopers like Naughty Dog stating how they are able to achieve awesome graphics in Uncharted 2.
It makes you wonder, is the 360 holding back the ps3 on mulitplat games. Because one, developers can not use the hardrive to install games, 2. the DVD space is very limiting.
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