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II-zOoLoGy-II
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No... They just need more time to optimize.
lol.
lol.
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I don't want to be that guy that goes against the group, but personally, I'm not really caring about the used game thing Sony will do. Since I do have all my old systems, the whole used game blocking thing will not bother me at all. That, and I seldom buy used games anyway, and if it's PS4 games then I generally buy them new because of all the bad experiences of past used games (scratches galore).
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Agreed. I mean, I hardly play any used games. Although, I also hardly back track on games overall. Maybe it's just me?
It's not just about used games though, if Sony go with this one game disc is linked only to one console approach it's also the end of borrowing a game from your friends or even sharing games between people in your household. Got a console downstairs for yourself and one upstairs for your kids? You're going to need two copies of any game you buy if they went with this setup.
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Some game are worth playing, but they are not worth the price. With new game that can't be played on another console you will never know how long you will wait for price to drop. This will never be consumer pressure point any more like we have today with modern games.
There's always ebay and local auction sites in your countries where you could buy second hand game for less money. So it's about 2 up to 3 weeks after game premiere you can buy it second hand game and play it without any problems. This time is usually time that people who bought their copy in day that game was released for asked price had to take it to finish the game and decide to sell it. At least today you have that knowledge, which we will lose it if sony and microsoft block second hand games.
We will never know how long it would take to price go down and how much.
There's always ebay and local auction sites in your countries where you could buy second hand game for less money. So it's about 2 up to 3 weeks after game premiere you can buy it second hand game and play it without any problems. This time is usually time that people who bought their copy in day that game was released for asked price had to take it to finish the game and decide to sell it. At least today you have that knowledge, which we will lose it if sony and microsoft block second hand games.
We will never know how long it would take to price go down and how much.
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That's just a horribly stupid idea Sony came up with. What happens when my disk is cracked or even scratched. 
II-zOoLoGy-II
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We don't know if that is the method they will use to enforce this (if they even will).
If anything I see it being exactly the same as PC; you are tied to a single CD key per user. You can install it from dd or physical media.
If anything I see it being exactly the same as PC; you are tied to a single CD key per user. You can install it from dd or physical media.
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- neema_t
They'd be mad to do it any other way. In fact if they do do it another way, rather than a class action lawsuit I propose that we just get Sony's management sectioned.
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I think its more a user locked system. If they lock blurays to one console then they do it to promote downloading games instead since theese are usercontrolled. But i dont think they will do this, instead i think they are like the online versions connected to the user rather than the console. So to play on another console it has to be the same user logged in. Feels reasonable to me if its that way. They are probably after killing the Chineese piracy market, a market that can mean big money.
The patent said this:
Note the last part. It clearly says the device, not the user. Besides even if it was by user ID you would still have the same issue, it's not like your friend or child is going to use the same user ID as you on a different console.
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How would that work if both consoles were offline? That is how the system Sony patented works, all hardware based that will work offline. Otherwise what is the point, consumers aren't going to accept a console that always has to be connected online to verify and play games.
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So what happens if by the time you've bought 10, 20, 30+ games your ps4 dies for what ever reason? Are we supposed to just dump the games and buy them again? I stay away from games with online pass out of principle so wont be buying into these methods for sure.
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Does anyone know if Nintendo's per-machine DLC can be transferred to another console in case the console goes out? I would hope that you could transfer and then lock the games on the new console. I'm also hoping that if Sony implements this methodology, that we get to keep it on any one console, in case of....
Jerome
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Don't see the connection ,these ports are the usual HDMI USB ports unless I am missing something
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Well might be done, original install is the one being playable offline. The second must be online to verify or may not be playable.
But i think most games will be boring if they are not connected. The cloudbased backups may be used for this too, your saved files can be accessed on other consoles as long as you log in so it is more likely they set the system to userbased rather than hardware as long as you have connection.
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Tell me how chineese piracy can make fake games working on normal consoles (not jailbreak) which are at least the 75% of all the PS3 around the World. Jailbreak is risky nowdays, you could be banned from PSN which means no online, no updates, no services. Let's think about GT5, without PSN you are very limited.
Only a small group of people are interested in jailbreak. So I don't see Sony blocking any piracy thing here, they will just stop 2nd market of original games.
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Dont forget, companies patent everything they come up with for protection in the future. Doesnt mean theyll use it, just stops others using it with out paying.
PS3 may not be complete but the PS4 is being asked for by many (including me), if its another year so be it but since no game has been announced on a console in Q3/4 this year, bit suspicious (GTA V was pushed back so doesn't count)
PS3 may not be complete but the PS4 is being asked for by many (including me), if its another year so be it but since no game has been announced on a console in Q3/4 this year, bit suspicious (GTA V was pushed back so doesn't count)
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Can we expect stuff like this in real time ?*
*Using the latest rumors about graphical capabilities to get a rough idea
*Using the latest rumors about graphical capabilities to get a rough idea
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It would be relevant if the patent was about that but it is not. That is the problem described and patent is something that will solve this problem through use of an RF tag. It would be a bit silly if a game is single use for one console. You are then done for if your console breaks or you try to upgrade to a newer slimmer version. I doubt anyone would force that.
The abstract explains well what the intention is:
It remains to be seen how many users they will allow if they decide to implement this. Hopefully it will be like the PS3 in terms of having access to all content of users on same console. This is what I like about PS3 gaming over PC gaming, you are not limited to going online on one account and also any additional content is accessible to all users on PS3.
HKS racer
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Maybe with a PS7 in 2028
Imho that's way too much even for nowdays gaming PC. The best you can expect from a PS4 imho is full 1920x1080p, 60 frame per seconds and 4xAA, somethimes even 2xAA.
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Okay so it's (barely) possible
Thanks man.If the push is to go all digital, for all the next-gens, I don't see why they don't lock it to someone's account and have the game be 'active' on just one system at a time. If I were to go to a friends house, login and install and play a DLC game, it should work. Then when I go back to my own console, it should make that game 'active' and my friend can't play the game because I'm not logged in on the console. But he should also have the option to delete it off his HDD if he wants. Is that too much to ask for with this all DLC stuff?
Jerome
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Okay so it's (barely) possible
If the push is to go all digital, for all the next-gens, I don't see why they don't lock it to someone's account and have the game be 'active' on just one system at a time. If I were to go to a friends house, login and install and play a DLC game, it should work. Then when I go back to my own console, it should make that game 'active' and my friend can't play the game because I'm not logged in on the console. But he should also have the option to delete it off his HDD if he wants. Is that too much to ask for with this all DLC stuff?
Jerome
I agree there mate. On the flip side.
Ironically this is the only system that allows you to sell on digital content (via your console mind)
You could in theory put up your console on E bay advertised with pre installed/unlocked software.
Not a great situation really. People seem to overlook the inability to sell there digital software on Xbox/PS3 and I don't think we will every be able to do so either.
I would take the Locked to ID option myself too.
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