PlayStation 5 Release Date and Price Officially Announced

This console is huge.
15.4in x 4.1in x 10.2in

https://www.androidcentral.com/playstation-5-specs-everything-we-know-so-far

Also not forgetting that a sensible gamer who really wants a game will most likely never part with it and if there is something I'm thinking about but not sure I will either try demo's or wait for it to become cheap thus saving money

I don't consider it too sensible to sit on a game I have no use for, especially if it's worth a decent amount.

I bought a PS4. I had no use for the PS3. I sold the console and sold/donated all the games I had. Also got rid of PS2 games. And now I have a PS2 lying in a box.
 
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I always used to give my games away when I got bored of them, a few weeks later I'd get an urge to play some again, that's why I went full digital on PS3 mid gen, to save me from myself. :lol:

In fact the main reason I'm getting a day 1 PS5 is to play through my PS4 backlog because I gave away my Pro to a friend a few months back. (Not through being bored of it though, he just needed it more than I did at the time)
 
Just ordered one from walmart.com

edit: I got on their email alert list and received an alert at 8PM today. Only saw the email 12 minutes after. I got to the site, the message varied with out of stock and restocking. The top part kept disappearing. After about 30 minutes, I refreshed and the pre-order button popped up and I was able to hit it. Check out worked regularly.
 
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They may not have shown GT because racing is niche but who knows when it will release :S!



They may not be. Unless I've misheard something but I swear they said they only need 1 asset now rather than repeated assets? So if you have 1 billboard in GT that has to be repeated 1,000 times if you want to show it 1,000 times you had to have it stored as an individual item 1,000 times on the PS4, but now they only have to store it once?

I may have misinterpreted that though? Someone correct me if I'm wrong please :D!
Someone on Twitter mentioned that too so if that’s the case sweet! That will be much better. I remember Mark Cerny talking about something like that but I got lost half way through his SSD talk lol.
 
Official PS5 blog (link):

- Weight: 4.5kg / Digital 3.9kg (PS4 was 2.8kg to PS4 Pro 3.3kg)
- Dimension: 390x104x260 (mm), Digital: 390x92x260
- Controller: price 69.99€, dimension 160x66x106 (mm), weight 280g (PS4 controller 210g)
- Game prices:
  • Demon’s Souls (Bluepoint Games / Studio Japon) – 79,99€
  • Destruction All Stars (Lucid Games / XDEV) – 79,99€
  • Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales (Insomniac Games) – 59,99€
  • Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ultimate Edition (Insomniac Games) – 79,99€

- Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Sackboy A Big Adventure, and Horizon Forbidden West coming on PS4 too (crossgen games). If you buy its on PS4, the transfert to PS5 is free.

So, it looks like PS5 exclusive games will not be cheap. No trace of GT7, no speculations, but looks like it's not a launch game?
 
Sim racing could be considered niche but racing games on the whole definitely aren't.

Gran Turismo is one of Sony's biggest, longest running IPs. Sold over 85 million games and still going. Plus its fanbase is so broad as its one of the original and best console racing games. Its absence from this showcase is odd.

I just hope that it's bigger fanbase hasn't had its excitement dulled by GTS. And that the desire for a proper Gran Turismo is still strong.

With 8m+ sales for GT Sport I don't think racing is that 'niche'. ;)

The GT franchise being one of Sony's prime exclusive series makes the lack content in the event puzzling for me. All they had to do was show a different track, either old legacy, or something new, and maybe a new car, and the buzz continues. ;)

I won't be getting a PS5 until a GT game appears (if I have the money at that time), so I don't need to worry about console shortages at launch. ;) Though that probably means waiting till holidays 2021. :( :rolleyes: :banghead:

It depends really, I'd argue racing is a niche, especially compared to a lot of genres (Most people won't just play racing to) but that's just my opinion :)! I know GT is a big seller, but if they're trying to get new people to the console, GT I'd argue isn't the way to get them, we're already here :P. When I watched peoples reactions to the last announcement, the ones I watched said while it looked good they weren't interested. But again just different views.

Looks like I missed out on pre-orders didn't even realise they'd gone live :(
 
I always used to give my games away when I got bored of them, a few weeks later I'd get an urge to play some again, that's why I went full digital on PS3 mid gen, to save me from myself. :lol:

In fact the main reason I'm getting a day 1 PS5 is to play through my PS4 backlog because I gave away my Pro to a friend a few months back. (Not through being bored of it though, he just needed it more than I did at the time)

Can I be your friend? :lol:
 
Simply put - money.

The "collection" only includes certain games. If the other download games on your ps4 have to be repurchased for PS5 Sony et all make money.

Remember, they did all those ps3 remasters to ps4 and made money on every sale e.g. FFX, FF12, Last Guardian etc. And released PS3 games to buy on PSN. You could not play a PS3 game on PS4 any other way.

If all the downloaded PS4 games work on PS5, publishers will have significantly lower earnings on back catalogue from both of the above, which has to be replaced somehow.

I'm not saying this is going to be the case, but a sample of PS Plus games being announced as redownloadable on PS5 (I dont have PS Plus, so they arent available to me anyway!). And saying that "all PS4 games should work on PS5".

Is not the same as "all your PS4 download library will be available on PS5, subject to checking the game works".

I hope that makes sense?
Yep sure. I hear you, and can understand the concern.
I guess my response would simply be that the PS4 wasn't backwards compatible. Hence the need for developers to literally create a 'remaster' so their PS3 game could be played on a PS4.
The argument this time around would be that the PS5 is backwards compatible.
A PS5 can read a PS4 game (be it disc or digital), in the same way a select few PS3 models could read PS2 games.

The issue is that Sony haven't, at least to my knowledge, said that games people have bought for their PS4 through the PS Store will be there for them to download for free when they transfer their account to a new PS5. They've said that 99% of PS4 games will work, as in you can stick your PS4 games disks in and they'll run fine (or run even better), but nothing about the free availability of digital PS4 games you've already purchased.
Well to be fair using that standard, there hasn't been any specific claim of 'disc' or 'physical' either.
The language used is always 'PS4 games' or 'PS4 catalogue', with no mention of the type of media be it disc or digital.
It seems you are suggesting that SONY would say "Well you bought a disc version of this game game so you're all good, but this guy bought the digital version of the same game, so he's going to have to pay the price'.
Obviously I don't have a PS5, but that scenario seems unlikely to me.


For both Jim and Cracker, I'm not trying to be clever nor dismiss your concerns.
But for me that's just the logical way things will turn out.

This was made clear in the first Cerny presentation earlier in the year, PS4 games will be bootable from disk and installed to an external hard drive, but not the ssd which is ps5 games only. You can dl your games purchased on psn digitally as many times as you like, you will have to make your ps5 the primary console in the options to do this. Basically an external HD is all that will be required and for some games patches as there will be improved res/frame rate for quite a few.
I may be mistaken but I'm assuming you are referring to the 'deep dive' talk.

To be fair, I don't think there is anything specifically regarding downloading digital versions.
Perhaps it was somewhere else you heard that?
Regardless, I would agree with what you are saying there.

I may just query the HDD part though.
I don't believe an external HDD is necessary, but simply a suggested avenue if looking for more game memory space on your console.


At any rate, here's that particular tech talk and the accompanying blog post.
Check time stamp 19:50 - 21:00 for SSD/HDD mention.
Check time stamp 27:00 - 28:30 for BC mention.
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/0...ls-of-playstation-5-hardware-technical-specs/
 
@Tassie_tiger @evldave333

I think people misunderstood. They said that external hard drives (HDD) could only be used to hold PS4 games, not PS5 games which absolutely require the speed of the SSD, but PS4 games CAN be copied to the PS5 SSD, they even said it should improve loading time.

PS5 will support USB external hard drives, but it will only be able to use these drives to play PS4 games through backwards compatibility. You'll also be able to copy PS4 games directly to the PS5's built-in SSD to improve loading times. However, if you want more space to play PS5 games, you'll need another SSD.

I don't think they've specifically said anything about re-downloading digital, non-enhanced PS4 games but as said, I don't see any reason why not.
 
Well to be fair using that standard, there hasn't been any specific claim of 'disc' or 'physical' either.
The language used is always 'PS4 games' or 'PS4 catalogue', with no mention of the type of media be it disc or digital.
It seems you are suggesting that SONY would say "Well you bought a disc version of this game game so you're all good, but this guy bought the digital version of the same game, so he's going to have to pay the price'.
Obviously I don't have a PS5, but that scenario seems unlikely to me.

If it turns out you can't play digital PS4 games on the PS5 then I'll be cancelling my pre-order, that's pretty much all I'm buying it for at the minute. I don't see why it wouldn't work though, all the disc does is act as an entitlement for the app package, which is installed to the HDD. The digital version just installs that entitlement onto the machine. That's why you can share digital games across multiple consoles (another reason I only buy digital now as my wife also has a console and will be getting a PS5 too).
 
If it turns out you can't play digital PS4 games on the PS5 then I'll be cancelling my pre-order, that's pretty much all I'm buying it for at the minute. I don't see why it wouldn't work though, all the disc does is act as an entitlement for the app package, which is installed to the HDD. The digital version just installs that entitlement onto the machine. That's why you can share digital games across multiple consoles (another reason I only buy digital now as my wife also has a console and will be getting a PS5 too).
I think the only question/concern being put forward is 'will it cost'.
I don't feel it's a question of 'if it can'.

I'm essentially happy to trade-in almost all my PS4 gear to reduce the cost of my pre-order, as I'm convinced, even disregarding PS5 games, it's simply a better PS4 gaming console than my aging Pro, and I don't expect any issues.
My only reluctance is because of my optical headset and my drivehub wheel.
Barring that, as far as I'm concerned, all PS4 era tech I own, except perhaps one DS4 controller and my VR set, will soon become obsolete.
 
...I checked what the disc PS5 would cost here in South Africa, and although I haven't seen any official pricing yet, one of the online retailers here have listed it for a whooping R11,999. That's over $745 US. What the hell.

I was seriously thinking of pre-ordering it, but now, no freaking ways. However, even Xbox Series X will cost about the same according to the same retailer. For that money, I might as well stick with my potato-spec PC and wait until the pricing comes down substantially first...

Edit: Well, as soon as I finished typing this post, my twitter notifications says that ridiculous price is official, as confirmed by PlayStation South Africa.

And I'm officially going to wait for a price drop, too.
 
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I think it's safe to say the PS5 console is selling very well. It's not even available yet and demand is outstripping supply.
Told you.
 
I think it's safe to say the PS5 console is selling very well. It's not even available yet and demand is outstripping supply.
Told you.
Mmm, so let's say they have 5 PS5's available for pre-order, and they have taken all 5 pre-orders, would the console be seen as selling well? All pre-orders would have been taken after all. ;)

Without knowing how many consoles were available, it is hard to know how well the consoles are going to sell initially. Every console has seemed to have more demand than supply when released, funny that. You would think they would have learned from their previous console releases. ;) :rolleyes: :lol:
 
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MYou would think they would have learned from their previous console releases. ;) :rolleyes: :lol:

Learned from previous console releases, what is thy mythical words thou speaks?
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Always the same for every new console or device/toy that comes on the market.

The main problem I am sure is that the retailers have opened up the pre-orders but have no idea how much stock they will actually get and then realise we have too many orders thus creating a problemo to solve!

I know from another of my hobbies that if a model is produced and it's limited to say 300 pieces worldwide if one retailer orders a 100 of the item but get no pre-orders yet another retailer does get the models pre-orders but can't supplly then neither party wins.

Presumably once Sony actually get the orders from the retailers we will see how many get supplied.

I am fully prepared to find I might have to wait for mine but I am sure things will settle into place.
 
Official PS5 blog (link):

- Weight: 4.5kg / Digital 3.9kg (PS4 was 2.8kg to PS4 Pro 3.3kg)
- Dimension: 390x104x260 (mm), Digital: 390x92x260
- Controller: price 69.99€, dimension 160x66x106 (mm), weight 280g (PS4 controller 210g)
- Game prices:
  • Demon’s Souls (Bluepoint Games / Studio Japon) – 79,99€
  • Destruction All Stars (Lucid Games / XDEV) – 79,99€
  • Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales (Insomniac Games) – 59,99€
  • Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ultimate Edition (Insomniac Games) – 79,99€

- Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Sackboy A Big Adventure, and Horizon Forbidden West coming on PS4 too (crossgen games). If you buy its on PS4, the transfert to PS5 is free.

So, it looks like PS5 exclusive games will not be cheap. No trace of GT7, no speculations, but looks like it's not a launch game?
God the new game prices :boggled:
 
HDMI is in the back.

I have other doubts. Do anyone have any experience how Wheels are working through USB to USB-C adapter? I know that there are 3x USB on PS5.
But one is for camera (lack of special camera port for VR) one would go for VR (it requires USB connection), and if I use external drive for PS4 title i have only USB-C left. Anyone tried using steering wheels or other periferals through some kind of adapter?

Photo of the back:
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Anyone tried using steering wheels or other periferals through some kind of adapter?

I had my G29 and a numeric keypad plugged into a 5 metre 4 way hub on my PS4 Pro and it was fine. Did not have to add recommended power to the hub either.

Edit: Oh and a mouse and keyboard too.
 
Mmm, so let's say they have 5 PS5's available for re-order, and they have taken all 5 pre-orders, would the console be seen as selling well? All pre-orders would have been taken after all. ;)

Without knowing how many consoles were available, it is hard to know how well the consoles are going to sell intitially. Every console has seemed to have more demand than supply when released, funny that. You would think they would have learned from their previous console releases. ;) :rolleyes: :lol:

I believe 4 out of the 5 were sold to Mr E Bay Esq., so I suspect a fair number will become available again.

The black market organisations will just write off the deposits on unsold consoles against the gain they make on others they sell, returning the unsold ones back to the official sellers.
 
HDMI is in the back.

I have other doubts. Do anyone have any experience how Wheels are working through USB to USB-C adapter? I know that there are 3x USB on PS5.
But one is for camera (lack of special camera port for VR) one would go for VR (it requires USB connection), and if I use external drive for PS4 title i have only USB-C left. Anyone tried using steering wheels or other periferals through some kind of adapter?

Photo of the back:
PS5%20ty%C5%82%20urz%C4%85dzenia%202.jpg
I like the back of the console, looks like a mini CPU tower
 
HDMI is in the back.

I have other doubts. Do anyone have any experience how Wheels are working through USB to USB-C adapter? I know that there are 3x USB on PS5.
But one is for camera (lack of special camera port for VR) one would go for VR (it requires USB connection), and if I use external drive for PS4 title i have only USB-C left. Anyone tried using steering wheels or other periferals through some kind of adapter?

Photo of the back:
PS5%20ty%C5%82%20urz%C4%85dzenia%202.jpg

Still wondering where's the place to insert a 3rd party SSD
 
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