Playstation Home Thread
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If this is true, be sure, you are a person in a minor group. 👍 ( or you just don`t paly as much lol )
Nope mine dosn't freeze either? I have not yet read one of your post which in some way dosn't say negative things about the playstation nor it's software and you often comment on the negatives of software you neither own or which has not yet been released. Just an observation mind not a critisism.
I would say you have conection issues though if your browser freezes your PS3 regularly, it's not something I have never heard of, rather something I've rarley heard of and have never encountered myself.
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Fair enough, i have a slow inet, but i don't know how this should freeze my PS3?
... what software you mean, I don't have btw?
I just not looking forward to home .
What I find remarkable is that I read a lot about freezing issues, yet you say you don't.
Many of my PSN buddies have similar issues and I am the one usually telling them, it's not THAT bad ( or often) lol
... what software you mean, I don't have btw?
I just not looking forward to home .
What I find remarkable is that I read a lot about freezing issues, yet you say you don't.
Many of my PSN buddies have similar issues and I am the one usually telling them, it's not THAT bad ( or often) lol
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I don’t believe Home will be only about make-up, hairstyle, fashion or interior design.
Are 3rd parties custom spaces already available at this time? What kind of dev tools are people gonna get in the future? As a community building tool Home might bring pretty nice options for about anybody’s interest while/if it grows-up content wise. Imagine GT Planet having it’s own building, with rooms to meet other racers for custom build events with all the options/help/restrictions. Meeting rooms for the different series organized here...There could be theaters where visitors could (re)watch replays of the most epic battles or even a live spectator mode to follow the events. Tuners could have their own shops where they exhibit their “specialties”(including custom liveries), alongside with real word car manufacturer’s boutique to show their new stuff available for download (eventually for free given the advertisement benefit).
There could be countless possibilities, and with PD and Sony close working relation, GT could be a game that really benefits from it.It may take time, or could never happen of course...
You have some great ideas there. I hope that's what home turns into. It really would be very cool to have GTP shops and such. I just can't see it happening. It's been in the works for so long now, and I have lost so much respect for the playstation brand. It just seems like the ps3 is a programming nightmare like everyone claimed it would be in the beginning.
The ps3 has been out for 2 years now, and HOME is just in beta. HOME was something mentioned from the beginning, and is just now coming. Microsoft will probably have a new console out within the next year or so, and I'm sure that they will have a counter for HOME. I just hope sony does this the right way, and really makes HOME like what you have mentioned, and not just some kind of social network alone.
I hope I am totally wrong though, and that you are right. The things that you have mentioned would be amazing, if developers and sony really get together and make it happen, it could change console gaming forever.
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Nope mine dosn't freeze either? I have not yet read one of your post which in some way dosn't say negative things about the playstation nor it's software and you often comment on the negatives of software you neither own or which has not yet been released. Just an observation mind not a critisism.
Same here. I have had my PS3 for nearly two years and can count the number of times it froze on one hand. Not only that, but we have been using our PS3 pretty much daily for one thing or another. We have upgraded the HDD twice already, from the original 60GB to a 160GB drive and now with a 320GB drive. We also have two 500GB external drives connected to the PS3 which store all our music, family photos, home movies, and other films and videos. In addition we have over a hundred films on Blu-ray and over 50 PS3 games.
As mentioned in this post, we also use the PS3 for casual web browsing, watching YouTube videos, even occasionaly checking webmail. We also use it for video conferencing with our family members and friends who live far away.
So yes, I can confidently say our PS3 has and continues to get used plenty, and no, we have never experienced anything like the kind and frequency of freezes H20HYBRID apparently believes are quite common.
The fact is you hear more from people who have issues than those that don't, and when you consider there are now over 15 million PS3's out there, even if just 1% had these kind of problems, that's 150,000 people with issues. Clearly if your focus is on the 150,000 and you are part of the 150,000 that have problems, it might appear you are in the majority, but the reality is 1% is far from a majority.
I'd also point out that as has been seen even on this forum and far more technical forums like AVS, many people who posted complaining about their PS3 were shown that the issue they were having had nothing to do with their PS3, but the problems they were having were do to how they had it set up, as well as problems and limitations with their own network.
Because a slow internet can also be an indication of other problems with your ISP service as well as your own network connections and equipment (modem, router, etc). If you are having any of these issues, then it certainly is very possible for that to cause freezes when data packets are not being properly transferred.
You do know Home is purely optional right?
You don't have to look forward to it. You and anyone else can continue to use the XMB to access games, chat with friends, and invite them to join you in a game. As has already been clearly pointed out, Home is just a community based interface for those that one a more visual interactive environment to interact with their online friends in.
Well said. I still think I'll continue to use the XMB over Home, but come to think of it, sometimes it takes a while for a group or clan, or in GT5P's cases, to meet for an organized online race... and having a virtual space that keep s people entertained and socializing while we wait for everyone to start the game would be nice.
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Okay, you have a good point about the majority- minority thing, even if it was 2%! Haven't seen it this way. 👍
About the HOME thing I have to ask though how is it optional when I wil have to use it for inviting friends for games like GT5/P ?
( ok we don't know for sure, but I really can't imagine anything else).
So you would say I need to upgrade my connection speed? ( because atm it's slow, but very constant 2MB ... ) ?
Oh also from what I read many people with upgraded HDDs seem to have lesser problems ?
hmm... maybe worth a try...
About the HOME thing I have to ask though how is it optional when I wil have to use it for inviting friends for games like GT5/P ?
( ok we don't know for sure, but I really can't imagine anything else).
So you would say I need to upgrade my connection speed? ( because atm it's slow, but very constant 2MB ... ) ?
Oh also from what I read many people with upgraded HDDs seem to have lesser problems ?
hmm... maybe worth a try...
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I already did, it says 1.9xxxMB down and about 220kb up load, any time of the day, get the same results on my PC... and this is exactly what I pay my provider for btw. lol
ON games with those three connection speed indicators(don`t know a better word for it?) I always have 2-3, so I would think it`s not too bad... I also have played with people who only had 1 and is was okayish... not good, but ok.
How would this be related to HDDs I wonder?
Just visited PSBlog and randomly found a post which expresses my feelings and observations very good (even though i don`t use wireless), but Ifeel him, you know as a matter of fact it got worse every FW update
There is nothing to do except waiting for an other update from the sony badgers stew cooking chief. Since 2.52 he gave us this gifts :
- WEB BROWSER FREEZE PS3 system
- STREAMING avi video is jerking, stopping, BUFFERING freezing (tversity, Orb, WMP11 etc same)
- WIFI are UNSTABLE : disconnect, loses connection, give imaginary errors loses media server and others cookies
Inside the box, the wifi receiver is the worst ever from the galaxy and web browser still does not have address bar (elementary not ?) thats dont help for the next
LOL ^^ I'm not that bad, am I?
ON games with those three connection speed indicators(don`t know a better word for it?) I always have 2-3, so I would think it`s not too bad... I also have played with people who only had 1 and is was okayish... not good, but ok.
How would this be related to HDDs I wonder?
Just visited PSBlog and randomly found a post which expresses my feelings and observations very good (even though i don`t use wireless), but Ifeel him, you know as a matter of fact it got worse every FW update
There is nothing to do except waiting for an other update from the sony badgers stew cooking chief. Since 2.52 he gave us this gifts :
- WEB BROWSER FREEZE PS3 system
- STREAMING avi video is jerking, stopping, BUFFERING freezing (tversity, Orb, WMP11 etc same)
- WIFI are UNSTABLE : disconnect, loses connection, give imaginary errors loses media server and others cookies
Inside the box, the wifi receiver is the worst ever from the galaxy and web browser still does not have address bar (elementary not ?) thats dont help for the next
LOL ^^ I'm not that bad, am I?
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And your PC's web browser never freezes? Some how I doubt that.
I have Turbo RoadRunner and get 15-22 Mb/s down and 2 Mb/s up and Explorer, Safari, and FireFox still freeze on occasions.
I can't imagine how it would. All I know is that I had the original drive for a year and half before upgrading it to a larger drive and never had any of the issues you mentioned, nor have I since.
Thankfully not, especially seeing as that poster is grossly misinformed, trolling, or just spreading FUD.Just visited PSBlog and randomly found a post which expresses my feelings and observations very good (even though i don`t use wireless), but Ifeel him, you know as a matter of fact it got worse every FW update
There is nothing to do except waiting for an other update from the sony badgers stew cooking chief. Since 2.52 he gave us this gifts :
- WEB BROWSER FREEZE PS3 system
- STREAMING avi video is jerking, stopping, BUFFERING freezing (tversity, Orb, WMP11 etc same)
- WIFI are UNSTABLE : disconnect, loses connection, give imaginary errors… loses media server and others cookies…
Inside the box, the wifi receiver is the worst ever from the galaxy… and web browser still does not have address bar (elementary not ?)… thats don’t help for the next…
LOL ^^ I'm not that bad, am I?
Not only does the web browser have an address bar (and additional options as well that are not convenienctly available with other browsers, including a handy instant manual zoom function) 👍, and technically speaking there is no WiFi receiver in a PS3, it's an adapter/network card, and I bet he doesn't have a clue what it does, nor it's capability or rating.
His comments only further support a problem with his network equipment and or settings, otherwise if he was even remotely correct, we would all experience the same problems.
I always shy away from quoting or even taking seriously comments left on blogs by anonymous sources. The Internet is bad enough regarding the spread of misinformation, but some of the things you'll find in the comment areas on blogs take it to a whole new level.
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Back on topic:
It's optional because you don't have to use Home, you can continue to use the XMB to communicate with friends and other players.
As far inviting friends for games, that has been and continues to be up to each game developer as far as how they want to implement that into their games. Some have done an amazing job with that, like MediaMolecule and their game LittleBigPlanet, others have done a terrible job, like Polyphony Digital and GT5P.
However, if Polyphony Digital improves the way we can create and organize online races with friends and online leagues through Home, and that's important to you, then instead of not looking forward to Home, I would expect you to be anxiously waiting for it to be available.
However, if you are happy with the XMB interface, and the way the developers of your favorite games have implemented their online game creation and invitation system, and you have no interest at all in a virtual social environment, then perhaps Home won't add any value to your gaming experience, and you can chose not to use it - thus the reason why it is indeed optional.
It's optional because you don't have to use Home, you can continue to use the XMB to communicate with friends and other players.
As far inviting friends for games, that has been and continues to be up to each game developer as far as how they want to implement that into their games. Some have done an amazing job with that, like MediaMolecule and their game LittleBigPlanet, others have done a terrible job, like Polyphony Digital and GT5P.
However, if Polyphony Digital improves the way we can create and organize online races with friends and online leagues through Home, and that's important to you, then instead of not looking forward to Home, I would expect you to be anxiously waiting for it to be available.
However, if you are happy with the XMB interface, and the way the developers of your favorite games have implemented their online game creation and invitation system, and you have no interest at all in a virtual social environment, then perhaps Home won't add any value to your gaming experience, and you can chose not to use it - thus the reason why it is indeed optional.
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I use FireFox and I tell the truth it hasn`'t freezed on me once in over a year since I have this PC.
So just another thought I don't think my and others issues with the PS3 are necessarily related to internet connections. Rather mysterios.
Yeah, however... I have them; also comes to mind I played a lot offline when my PS3 was new and even then I had more freezes than acceptable.
Note: My 1st PS3(60GB) died on me after one year and one day after purchase and when I asked the service about gurantee or repair, they told me it would cost 400 Euros to replace and since I´m pretty sure that IGXMB update a few days before was what initiated its death, you maybe understand I just don't want another home, cos it will be getting pretty expensive again...
I will upgrade my HDD though, even If I have no need for it, and hope the best!
Thanks for that!
I know what you mean, just thought it was a perfect example of the many complaints and genaral feeling of '' No, not another update..''
I especially love the give imaginary errors… part
On the topic:
If it's up to the devs and home is running I would think devs like PD will use home and thus WILL be mandatory!
We'll see.
I just really am afraid its gonna be a long, long way until that and I just want to setup races and Invite friends as I'm used to with many other (racing)games for ages;
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LOL today my firefox 'froze', I was going trough the bookmarks like crazy when it happened, but it rather hung than froze I would say. Other than on PS3 I didn't have to turn the PC off... just restart firefox, hehe.
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Hybrid, no offense, but you're off the mark in many area's. The firmware didn't kill your PS3, home won't kill your PS3.
You'll probably like home when it comes out, given how active you are here on GTP.
You'll probably like home when it comes out, given how active you are here on GTP.
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If you say so...
Hmm, seriously I won't like home, because I hate games (in this case applications or whatever) with little, tiny people moving around..
I love games with little, tiny cars moving around though
, maybe I can have a carhome?! 
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What country are you in?
I know plenty of people who have had PS3's fixed outside warranty (many well outside warranty) without charge.
This is mainly in the UK, but as SCEE covers Europe as a whole I find it strange.
In regard to firmware 'breaking' PS3s, only one firmware has had an issue and that was 2.4 (which was pulled and then re-issued as 2.41). Keep in mind that just because a problem occurs near a firmware update, it does not mean that the firmware caused the problem.
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I'm in Germany and I find it strange too especially since it was obviously related to a FWupdate. I can't remember which one it was exactly tbh, something like 2.2 ... Right after that update my screen went black, was only that background thingy, no xmb... the next day it was running 30 minutes, peeped, red light blinked , game over.
So what would you think?
Best thing is I didn't get it back yet, nor do I believe it will be a BC unit when I finally should get it back. :/
Change to a different power socket.
My ps3 was 2 months old. It had been plugged into a powerboard. I accidentally knocked a cord out and the board shorted out. I then proceeded to try and turn my ps3 on but all I had where the orange lights with no picture or sound 'safe mode I think'. Any who, I took it out to our Plasma and plugged it into the socket out there, and it was fine. Brought a new power board 'belkan just to be safe
' and all is well now. I've had a couple of freezes but nothing serious to warrant a send away to Sony.
Btw its to my understanding that Sony will normally fix it with no charge even if its out of warranty due to life time gurantee or something.
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Haha, thanks guys for trying to help me out... isn't it funny how everybody has a different solution to the same issue and sorry for getting a little off-topic here. 👍
Yes I bought a new PS3 the next day since they told me to wait AT LEAST 3 months! Since then the fan of the new one gets louder each FW, just like the old did. So I can tell you pretty safe it won't last anymuch longer this time.
Well it was a long time ago i tell you.
Yes I bought a new PS3 the next day since they told me to wait AT LEAST 3 months! Since then the fan of the new one gets louder each FW, just like the old did. So I can tell you pretty safe it won't last anymuch longer this time.
I tried that too, didn't help... I tried everything I know of,finally I'm certain it was the HDD or the BRD(how surprising lol) since it didn't want to give me my jp copy of GT5p back...
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It's also sad (unfortunate really) that you are one of the very few experiencing any of the issues you have said have plagued you, as well as your delays in service. I would definitely recommend you not buy any lottery tickets or make any trips to Monte Carlo any time soon. And if you get caught in a lightning storm - RUN!
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Lottery you say...?
It's what I do anyway in this case!And if you get caught in a lightning storm - RUN!
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I really, really, really want to try home so much. It looks so much like fun. how much I use it is another matter as I use the PS3 more for watching BD movies than any other task. I think if Home delivers a good experience with the promise of future updates then it will be a winner.
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Update 2.2 was March 2008, but the delay in getting this done is very surprising.
Here in the UK if a firmware update bricks a machine you will normally get a doorsetp exchange within a few days, even outside warranty.
Up until very recently these have been 60gig machines (refurbished) that people have been getting back (now you get offered a 60gig refurb or new 80gig).
Amazing that Germany should be so different.
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