Mohammed? That's an odd one to go for.
I can think of many reasons why a straight woman or couple would want to get rid of a gay or trans child. Don't want the hassle or the stigma that might go with it for one. Don't want a good chance of outliving their children for another. Don't want their other children to have to deal with it. To be accurate, according to the pro-abortionists anyway, gays in the womb aren't "just people" or babies at all during the abortion possible phase. Just a collection of cells we can cut out at will, like a mole or cyst.
I guess with the Dutch having seen Nazism up close the fear they've given into is of anything that they feel invokes those times such as a far right politician calling for "fewer Moroccans".
I think you will find that's likely only to be the homophobic ones.
Not just 'gays'.
Nothing homophobic about it at all. Nice strawman though. Those are all practical reasons based on sound reasoning.
Didn't say it was just gays, but I responded to a post about gays so I phrased it in terms of gays. Sorry if you were offended because I wasn't politically correct and completely inclusive.
I love the name of the group that filed the suit.
You know this is what I thought about when posting gays, (yes, I had an ulterior motive) and I'm not sure it would be such a minority as you would first think. To add to JPs list, it will be immensely harder to have grandkids - and I think that's a big concern for future parents. In a post-Trump election win world I wouldn't be surprised to see people be a little less understanding of gayness should it be their future child in the spotlight.
I don't understand the lawsuit (I'm not well versed on the first amendment) - is there a ban on religious symbols on things set up by councils?
The vast majority of which can apply to any child, I know I have three.
Given that you used that term on its own yes you did. Not that it offended me so you don't need to worry.
Not all straight people can have kids, or even want kids.
Oh I would agree that the intolerant have seen it as a free pass to express themselves, but if someone is willing to persecute their own child over something they have no control over then personally I think they have some quite deep seated issues.
Is there an understanding of straitness? Is there heteropobic?
They were able to protest and put their crosses on the tree. But the big lit up cross that was on the top of the tree will not be replaced. I didn't watch the video in that link but they needed a cherry picker truck to remove the cross.
And?
Don't think that's fairly safe at all, I think it's based on your own personal bias. If a doctor said, "your child will have a life expectancy of 30-40 years and will be much more likely to commit suicide"(in the case of trans people), I expect anyone that is already prone to abortion would consider that as good a reason as a Down's collection of cells, a missing limb, low IQ or any other reason. Even if they are homophobic, so what? Does aborting because it might be gay or trans make it any worse than an abortion for any other reason? The cluster of cells is dead in any case.
That wasn't the "political correctness" I was referring to when I raised the original idea of the French abortion commercial ban. This whole discussion on abortion is a side issue IMO.
Yes.
That depends on exactly what you have said.The gay community is quick to chime in when a straight person gives there two cents. I've been called a homophobe here. I don't think I am and I don't condone killing babies cause you fear they will be gay. But I don't agree with or like "gay". But thanks to the labels and stupidity spewed by the PC crowd, I am homophobic.
Some people almost certainly do, its no more acceptable that homophobia.Turn the tables one time. People have a problem understanding straitness. Some people are heterophobic. God forbid we do what we are built for.
Its makes it no more or less a valid series of reasons than any otehr abortion, as such I don't see why they would be specifically highlighted in this case.
I disagree, I think the likelihood of having an abortion based on sexuality is far more likely to occur in someone who is also homophobic. Ironically in the west that person is far more likely to also oppose abortion.
No, and I didn't say it did.
There's plenty of nigh on purely pragmatic people in the world, and I think that that's the kind of thinking that @Johnnypenso was accessing. Right now, those are the numbers that add up. Hopefully in the future there will be no difference to the read outs at the bottom of the page.
Hey, you'll get one person all too willing to have an abortion simply because it would mess up their figure for a friend's wedding, then another who has 72 cats because they can't stand the thought of them being put down. It takes different strokes to kill the world.
Removing the cross is directly oppressing their right to express religion. Let's be honest the tree and Christmas all revolve, somewhat, around Christianity(I can't think of another religion that uses the tree for the celebration of their religion)(I know the real story of St. Nicholas...)
Society pays for it also if the child goes into DFACS or Foster Child system. And kids now a days are starting even younger than 16, we had a 14 year old shoot and rob and kill a pizza delivery guy for a gang initiation. They look to other places when they don't have a family, those places usually make them do very wrong things, to prove they are family and down for whatever. It was rather sad, you look at him and see a bright face with a future, sadly his will be in prison...
I was illustrating the broad scope of characters that we have around us. I left it to be read between the lines that the scope would allow for the existence of people "cold" enough to abort for those reasons.
Just mucking around with a play on the Diff'rent Strokes theme.
We're in the Political Correctness thread, where a generic black and white conversation about abortion would be really rather ill-placed and uninspiring. It comes across like you want to steer towards a right to one's own body conversation, against the tide of conversations about motivations and such. And are you directing it at me? Have you seen something in here that suggests to you that I need to be schooled on that right?
