Poll: Do you like hacked cars in GT5?

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Do you liked hacked cars?


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But why? Is that because of licensing like what some guy said?

Yeah, it's to do with licensing. For instance, Ferrari is not going to want their engines used in a Lamborghini in the same way that they don't want their cars used on rally courses, hence the lack of dirt/snow tyres available for their cars.

I think the closest we'd get to hybrids is for PD to have the option to swap a selection of very generic engines in - maybe rather than replacing your cars engine with an LS7 you'd be able to select a 'PD V8 7.0l Engine' to swap into your car (for a price)
 
Yeah, it's to do with licensing. For instance, Ferrari is not going to want their engines used in a Lamborghini in the same way that they don't want their cars used on rally courses, hence the lack of dirt/snow tyres available for their cars.

I think the closest we'd get to hybrids is for PD to have the option to swap a selection of very generic engines in - maybe rather than replacing your cars engine with an LS7 you'd be able to select a 'PD V8 7.0l Engine' to swap into your car (for a price)

Excellent point, problem is, they've allowed this practice to continue unabated so where does that leave us? It leaves us with an ugly mess where megaoverpowered cars are still possible and still squeeze into standard regulations. If PD isn't going to fix hybriding altogether, then they could have added some simple regulations to allow online hosts to control it, rather than abandoning the game altogether just because a new one is due out.
 
There is no evidence that this has anything to do with licensing. If you do an engine file swap for instance, there is no "engine" that is being replaced. The car model never changes. The cars with visible engines still retain their engine. The representation that the license covers is still intact.

It has everything to do with the impact this has the Gran Turismo brand.
 
There is no evidence that this has anything to do with licensing.

So if I put a tiny little Fiat 500 chassis on the F2007 you don't think Ferrari would have a problem with that clownish looking build? Even though PD is required to do an accurate representation of the makers vehicles?

Or even if I change the name Ferrari F2007 to Ferrari Farts and make it sound like a Tank Car you don't think that would be a licensing issue either between PD and Ferrari?

There is plenty of thing we as consumers can do to cause discrepancies between Ferrari and PD..
 
So if I put a tiny little Fiat 500 chassis on the F2007 you don't think Ferrari would have a problem with that clownish looking build? Even though PD is required to do an accurate representation of the makers vehicles?

Or even if I change the name Ferrari F2007 to Ferrari Farts and make it sound like a Tank Car you don't think that would be a licensing issue either between PD and Ferrari?

There is plenty of thing we as consumers can do to cause discrepancies between Ferrari and PD..

Nope. Completely irrelevant. Anyone modifying the game and creating whatever they like occurs outside the express permission of Sony and without any support by them.

This is all about the Gran Turismo brand.

There's this odd notion that the auto makers have a hotline to Sony. In all likelihood, they don't even know that people are modding cars. If there isn't money being made, they don't pay attention.
 
Nope. Completely irrelevant. Anyone modifying the game and creating whatever they like occurs outside the express permission of Sony and without any support by them.

This is all about the Gran Turismo brand.

There's this odd notion that the auto makers have a hotline to Sony. In all likelihood, they don't even know that people are modding cars. If there isn't money being made, they don't pay attention.

So to explain a trademark:

"If you were to fill a container that features a trademark with a generic product this would be trademark infringement, even if the buyer knows that he is not getting the original product. The refilled product as such is not the same as the original product as sold by the trademark holder. Somebody else might see the refilled product in use, and if the refilled product did not work as well as the original product, the image of the trademark holder would be damaged in the eyes of that somebody else."

Now so far this sort of means that you are correct, but (should know there's always going to be a but :D " ..

So Ferrari may have been a bad example, so let's take Nissan this time, they have put a lot of time and dependence into the GT series, with GT Academy, exclusive rights, so on and so fourth. When Nissan forms GT Academy they are relying heavily on the acurate performance of their product on GT5. If said product was to be altered (regardless of who did it) and released to individuals whom find themselves driving a Nissan in the game, and find it to be "crap" because they have recieved a counterfeit product, can then demand refunds, file complaints, so on and so fourth to PD/Sony.

Now for the theoretical part during this time word has spread that GT5 is a poor product, "I have a Nissan 370Z and it is nothing like in the game, the car in the game handles like a '77 F250 and it's stats say it has 103hp, ultimate simulator my 🤬 " .. Time goes by, Nissan has not recieved any interest, or at least not enough in GT Academy, 87 year old Billy-Jo-Bob takes the win for GT Academy since the other people who participated did not meet qualifications. He then forgets where he is in the middle of his first race due to Altheimer's disease (undetectable by GT Academy testing) he forgets where he is, stops and injures (or worse) himself and 5 fellow racers. Then, their new , extra cheap, and same performance GTR-1 is exclusively released to the GT Series what was a multi-million fanbase, and yet they have not sold nearly the number's they projected.

Nissan ask's themselves "what's going on?" They do some research and see the the fanbase for GT has dropped by nearly 90% making multi-millions just several hundred thousand. They call PD and have a meeting, sometime through out that meeting it is brought up by PD, "Well we did have a lot of complaints about the Nissan vehicle not being an accurate representation." .. Nissan hears this, a discussion begins, Nissan pulls out of the Gran Turismo series.

Goodbye Nissan, goodbye publicity from Nissan, goodbye Nissan marketing materials, hello Forza Academy.. The loss of a company like Nissan would devastate PD's marketing/income/publicity, a lot of things.. And this is a direct result of "counterfeit" vehicles being made by individuals on Trademark material. ~Fin~
 
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Good one Voodoo:sly:

If you are going to quote me do it properly, or it's not a quote, it's desecration of character... Yes we have both done it in the past to each other, I thought you might have grown up a little since our last argument, guess not... It's not my fault that you lack the intelligence to understand the already quite "dumbed-down" version I provided. I could only imagine the headache you would have if I provided accurate, detailed, and pre-existing "sensical" information..

You're right. It's licensing.:dunce:

All that I stated is just a small portion of licensing .. It takes hundred of small sections and details before the licensing actually would take place, if you honestly do not believe the "what ifs" I have given you to not be a part of licensing, I don't know what to tell you.. There's a lot more to it on the business scale than the 3 line disclaimer the consumer reads.
 
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All that I stated is just a small portion of licensing .. It takes hundred of small sections and details before the licensing actually would take place, if you honestly do not believe the "what ifs" I have given you to not be a part of licensing, I don't know what to tell you.. There's a lot more to it on the business scale than the 3 line disclaimer the consumer reads.

I'd rather not get into online debates, but I have a second. The amount of lawyer time needed to deal with the edge cases (the what if's) would be extensive. Also, there would have to be a demonstrable damage to the brand.

As I stated, there is a brand that is in position to be injured by this, and that brand if the billion dollar IP known as Gran Turismo.
 
If you are going to quote me do it properly, or it's not a quote, it's desecration of character... Yes we have both done it in the past to each other, I thought you might have grown up a little since our last argument, guess not... It's not my fault that you lack the intelligence to understand the already quite "dumbed-down" version I provided. I could only imagine the headache you would have if I provided accurate, detailed, and pre-existing "sensical" information..

My mistake I guess. I failed to take seriously your post about an 87 year old man with Alzheimers winning GT Academy because he was the only participant, who then goes to the track and forgets where he is, and crashes out or kills himself and 5 other competitors. I don't know what came over me.
 
I'd rather not get into online debates, but I have a second. The amount of lawyer time needed to deal with the edge cases (the what if's) would be extensive. Also, there would have to be a demonstrable damage to the brand.

As I stated, there is a brand that is in position to be injured by this, and that brand if the billion dollar IP known as Gran Turismo.

I can agree my "what ifs" where ridiculous, and hence the lawyer time would be also. But the brand damage can persist through GT's effecting an actual car "Brand" due to "in part" licensing issues. I want to add also, this argument and my "crude remarks" are not suggested towards you, as we do not have a reason to be "at each other" , some members are just extremely stubborn and when they don't understand things they reply with unjustified remarks;

*cough cough*
My mistake I guess. I failed to take seriously your post about an 87 year old man with Alzheimers winning GT Academy because he was the only participant, who then goes to the track and forgets where he is, and crashes out or kills himself and 5 other competitors. I don't know what came over me.

Now for the theoretical part ~

Threads way off topic anyways, I'm done with this-
 
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SO, with the modifiers and extra tires removed, is it still considered cheating?

If my Charger is actually a GT-R under the skin, is that really an issue?
 
Voodoovaj
If my Charger is actually a GT-R under the skin, is that really an issue?

Technically no, because it would be in the same PP range as the GTR.

I would just be honest about what's in your car.
 
I still hate hacked cars, primarily because paint hacked ones normally look ugly, slammed cars look ugly to me, and the cars with hacked performance, regardless of realism, sort of annoy me.
 
I still hate hacked cars, primarily because paint hacked ones normally look ugly, slammed cars look ugly to me, and the cars with hacked performance, regardless of realism, sort of annoy me.

LOL, ugly paint has nothing to do with hacks :)

Other than that, if you can't tell, it's all good. Nice to know.
 
LOL, ugly paint has nothing to do with hacks :)

Other than that, if you can't tell, it's all good. Nice to know.

The ugly hacked paint has everything to do with the hacks. I saw someone using an absolute eyesore of a VW Nardo because of hacked paint and what looked like "window tint" on it. I am so glad I was always driving in front of it.
 
The ugly hacked paint has everything to do with the hacks.

Are you trying to say that bad paint schemes are not present or possible without hacking?

I assure you they are not related. There are plenty of questionable colours amongst the several thousand of choices in the game and, as shocked as you may be, there are people who chose to paint their vehicles with them.
 
Jaywalker
Hacking sucks.

TT leaderbords refer.

Case rested.

People who use 'hacked' cars in leaderboard events suck.

Otherwise I'm cool with this "hacking" (it's nothing of the sort). And the majority of online racers I've raced against seem happy as long as they're winning. Example: a friend gifted me an AWD Nissan March with a stock GT-R engine. I use it frequently in online lobbies and no-one bats an eyelid, because their 'real' cars can easily outrun it.
 
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Otherwise I'm cool with this "hacking" (it's nothing of the sort). And the majority of online racers I've raced against seem happy as long as they're winning. Example: a friend gifted me an AWD Nissan March with a stock GT-R engine. I use it frequently in online lobbies and no-one bats an eyelid, because their 'real' cars can easily outrun it.

Bingo
 
People using hacked cars that break the PP system suck.

TT leaderbords refer.

PD can fix this with 5 minutes of programming so they suck even more.

Case rested.

Fixed that for you..:sly:
 
Only hacked paint is allowed in my lobby, no hack tuning when we run competitive races, as soon as I realize someone is running hacked tuning cars = immediate ban, no warning. Use them at your own risk. :mischievous:

That said with hacked/hybrid paint I can create some bad a$$ looking cars, confirming once again what this game could have been with a decent livery editor.

Yesterday I've made a black RX-7 Re Amemya with red wheels, hybrid paint keeps the game alive for me.
 
I've always held the middle ground. I'm not a fan of the hex code alterations to give cars whacky shaders or messed up tuning. However, I think file swapping to change parts is fantastic and, really, makes for an (arguably)(IMHO) better and more accurate experience.

So many of the cars have grip levels set to mimic their bad OE tires.

Toss bias ply tires on a GT-R and I guarantee it won't handle that well. On the flip side, top notch rubber on a muscle car will make a massive difference as well. "Race" suspension is a complete overhaul and redesign of a suspension system. With that in mind, why doesn't the game bring the cars into more balance when all the upgrades are added? Shouldn't that be the point?

Anyway, I've never heard a complaint about my cars.
 
One thing to say: Pro Mod Camaro RM Dragster.

2000hp on 1200kg, single speed CVT gearbox.

quartermil in 8,6s @ 210mph.

it's a beast to drive...
i love it.
 
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