But the ability to create a good setup is not because of people's skill level of driving but because they understand how a car works and what setup changes do.
There are a lot of people that are not "aliens" or "really fast" but they are excellent in creating car setups for others because of that.
In iRacing -example- some "pro" teams have a guy who has this jod:to create the best possible setup for the team drivers.
Like irl they take info from them and adjust the car setup to a specific track/weather-track conditions.
ah yeah absolutely, Louis Hamilton's mechanic is sure not as fast as a driver as him. It is not necessary required to be a fast driver to do good setups, but from reading the forums it does seem the ones creating good setups are also very capable drivers. At least far better than I am.
Plus (and this is more important imo) its a basic rule -in sim games in general- that setups would help gain 0.00.1xxx-0.00.400 after someone can do consistent lap times with min lap difference -0.5 sec for example-.There is no point to search faster lap times if you have 2 sec difference in you lap times even in long tracks (Nordschleife for example).A better setup is what is going to give you that extra 0.1xxx.Its not gonna make you do laps 5 sec faster.
My impression from reading the forums was more that you could easy gain 2-5 seconds faster lap times with tuning, but maybe I'm wrong. Btw, with "longer tracks" I meant tracks like Suzuka. I don't even know how much my time varies on the Nordschleife, I reckon it would be between 10 - 20 seconds :-D
What I try to do is to "master" the car and the track and after I get to a point where my lap times are "set" (within 0.5 max) I try to see how much time I can save from changing the setup.Sometimes I will straight up change basic things (like gearing or downforce) depending to the track but until I can go and do 20 laps with the "similar" result I dont worry about "setups" since I have yet to learn the track or the car or both.
Yes that's what I mean. If you don't have the time to learn a track/car combination good enough for creating a setup, you can't really be expected to tune your car, which will disadvantage you even further than you already are. Especially in this week with the Nations Cup and Manufacturers Cup, I barely have the time to get used to the car/track combo, because it changes every day.
Someone has suggested you should just learn to tune. Yes I can learn to tune the car, but I won't have time to make any use of it because I will use all my time to learn the car and track. I could change any setting on the car and I could not tell you if it made my driving better or worse. I tried to play with the brake balance in the 911 race yesterday, but did not note any difference. So instead of fiddling with settings, I just tried to get as many laps in pre race as possible, get used to car a little bit and try my best in the race. It started out pretty good, I was able to go with the general pace in the 4 - 6 positions, until I crashed 3 times in 3 laps, so I finished 19 :-D I just drove into walls and stuff, luckily no other drivers were involved. Point I'm trying to make: my speed was actually ok, it was just my inexperience with this car and track that made me finish almost last. If tuning was allowed and the same drivers in that race all had nicely tuned cars, I probably wouldn't have been able to keep up at all. And I doubt DR is smart enough to account for tuned, not tuned cars and balance the skills of the drivers in that regards.
For one, there's nothing that says you need to participate in every event- the FIA series aren't even the only sanctioned races in the game. You can participate in the daily races just fine if you want a quick pickup race. Maybe pick a couple FIA races throughout the week to focus on instead of trying to do all of them.
Secondly, if you race only a few select cars, you can easily spend some time getting a base setup you're comfortable with for each at the start of the season. Then you only need to make small tweaks to it week to week to adapt to the track. It takes very little time.
I mean, I know what it's like to not have a series catered to your desires- I haven't raced since Saturday because of that. I've accepted that these races aren't for me. I just wish something existed in the game that was...
I know I don't need to participate in every event - but I would like to. The FIA events are a special thing this week, which I find very interesting so I want to try it. Due to this, I haven't had time to do any daily races. That's fine, I use the time I have for the races I would like to try. Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining about the selection of cars and track combos we get from PD. Quite the opposite, I am curious to try them all (maybe VGT and Rally not so much). I am interested in how well I can master these challenges in a very short time, especially with difficult cars/tracks.
This is just how differently we play this game. I'm not in it for winning every race. I don't want to race just a few selected cars and track, that I know well. I want to race a large selection of cars and track, and see what challenge each one of them provides to me. All in the context of having good races and fun.
That being said, if the races start to allow tuning, I won't be mad, and I will keep playing and having fun. Maybe a bit further back in the pack, but that's ok. But right now, with no tuning allowed, I have more respect for the driving skills of the drivers ahead of me. In the 911 race last night, the leading guy pulled away like 3 seconds of my best lap constantly. If tuning was allowed, I would shrug it off with "ah he just had a good tune and was maybe not the better driver than me". Probably not true, I know, but these are the kind of thoughts. With no tuning allowed, I have mad respect for the driving skills of this guy.
An interesting option would be to allow tuning only for the highest ranked drivers, in DR A + B races only?
I voted fixed, as this is the 'real driving simulator' after all, it's not the 'real engineer simulator'.
If tuning is allowed, then tire wear/fuel consumption and engine/gearbox damage should also be calculated and applied.
Actually I would love that. No tuning allowed, but realistic damage/wear/consumptions etc, plus restrictions on driving aids like countersteer assist.