[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?


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He wants to transfer nearly $20 Trillion out of the hands of the MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES and BIG WALL STREET CORPORATIONS and into the pockets of everyone else. Sounds a lot like getting stuff for free to me.
I think that may be a bit of an over exaggeration. If his idea was to pass successfully, the government isn't just going to sit outside and pass out money to every middle and low income person they see. I would assume/hope that majority of that money goes towards education and food infrastructures in places that need them in order to give everyone better living environments.
 
From all sides of the fence, although I would replace terror with disappointment personally. Might give me pause to fear my neighbor however.
 
I think that may be a bit of an over exaggeration. If his idea was to pass successfully, the government isn't just going to sit outside and pass out money to every middle and low income person they see. I would assume/hope that majority of that money goes towards education and food infrastructures in places that need them in order to give everyone better living environments.
Of course it's an oversimplification, they aren't just handing over cash, but it remains a transfer of wealth of $20 Trillion mostly from the rich and big corporations to the middle class and lower.
 
Of course it's an oversimplification, they aren't just handing over cash, but it remains a transfer of wealth of $20 Trillion mostly from the rich and big corporations to the middle class and lower.
Let's start with the billionaire Walton family. Maybe then they'll pay their employees more than $7.25/hr.
 
Let's start with the billionaire Walton family. Maybe then they'll pay their employees more than $7.25/hr.
You are several months behind in your reading:
https://www.rt.com/usa/329758-walmart-employees-pay-raise/

The US’ largest private employer, Walmart, announced pay rises for 1.2 million employees, bringing wages up to at least $10 an hour. The news comes just five days after the company announced it was closing 154 stores in the US and laying off 10,000 people. Walmart had previously announced the pay increases as part of a $2.7 billion investment in pay, training and benefits, but the details weren’t disclosed until Thursday. Under the plan, most full-time employees will see their wages increased by $1 – to $10 an hour.

Of course, even before this latest pay raise your statement wasn't true either. You have to stop getting your information from the back of Bernie campaign flyers:

Walmart employs 1.4 million people in the US. The latest raises would increase the average full-time hourly wage at Walmart to $13.38 from $12.96, and the average part-time wage to $10.58 from $10. The federal minimum wage is $7.25.
 
Nope, I read about that when it happened. Still stand by what I said.


Hardy har.
So how much profit should Walmart be allowed to make? 1 cent on the dollar? 2 cents on the dollar? Some absolute amount?
 
So how much profit should Walmart be allowed to make? 1 cent on the dollar? 2 cents on the dollar? Some absolute amount?
Not taking multi-million dollar bonuses is a great start. Even then, their prices are pretty low as it is. I would welcome a small increase on certain items if I knew it was all going back into their employees pockets.
 
Not taking multi-million dollar bonuses is a great start. Even then, their prices are pretty low as it is. I would welcome a small increase on certain items if I knew it was all going back into their employees pockets.

Why, are they state-owned? If it's a private business and you're not a stakeholder then I don't see what it has to do with you?
 
Why, are they state-owned? If it's a private business and you're not a stakeholder then I don't see what it has to do with you?
As a consumer and a supporter of fair wages, I would welcome an increase on prices in their stores if I knew they were going to use it to pay their employees better. Not sure why that's hard to understand?
 
Not taking multi-million dollar bonuses is a great start. Even then, their prices are pretty low as it is. I would welcome a small increase on certain items if I knew it was all going back into their employees pockets.
I didn't ask about salaries, I asked about profits. How much profit should they be allowed to make? Everything flows from profits. Profits go down or cease to exist, stores will close, belts will be tightened, wages and salaries will eventually go down or cease to exist. No profits (for too long) = no business = no one getting paid or getting a bonus. So I'm asking, what level of return on the dollar is reasonable for the owners of the business? 1%, 2%, X%, some fixed amount? Before or after tax? What tax rate is fair on net income?
 
I didn't ask about salaries, I asked about profits. How much profit should they be allowed to make? Everything flows from profits. Profits go down or cease to exist, stores will close, belts will be tightened, wages and salaries will eventually go down or cease to exist. No profits (for too long) = no business = no one getting paid or getting a bonus. So I'm asking, what level of return on the dollar is reasonable for the owners of the business? 1%, 2%, X%, some fixed amount? Before or after tax? What tax rate is fair on net income?
I guess that all depends on what they make for profits now. And judging by their wealth, I assume it's rather high. I'm not going to just throw a number out there not knowing their current range.
 
As a consumer and a supporter of fair wages, I would welcome an increase on prices in their stores if I knew they were going to use it to pay their employees better. Not sure why that's hard to understand?

Nor am I. Do you think it is hard to understand?

What I responded to was your statement that the owners shouldn't take multi-million bonuses and that any price increases should, 100%, be diverted directly to employees. To my mind that rather smacked of telling them how to run their business rather than making an appeal for fair employment.
 
Nor am I. Do you think it is hard to understand?

What I responded to was your statement that the owners shouldn't take multi-million bonuses and that any price increases should, 100%, be diverted directly to employees. To my mind that rather smacked of telling them how to run their business rather than making an appeal for fair employment.
I don't think me typing out a suggestive opinion on a forum about video games is anywhere near telling them how to run their business.
 
I believe in stiff tariffs, high taxes on corporations, and up to 75% tax on 10,000,000 made in a year for individuals or families.
Subsidies should not be given out to companies who make dangerous gambles, or fail to keep up with demand of technology.
Every American is entitled to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. I happen to believe this means every American should have a education through college, and healthcare via paid taxes. An ignorant populous helps no one, but the predators who prey on them.
 
Walmart is currently paying a pretty average tax rate:

For 2015 it was 32%
Walmart paid approx. $8 billion of taxes in 2015 on Pre-tax income of $24.8 billion
Walmart's After-tax Net Income in 2015 was $16.3 billion on $485.6 billion of revenue

For 2014 it was 33%
Walmart paid approx. $8.1 billion of taxes in 2014 on Pre-tax income of $24.7 billion
Walmart's After-tax Net Income in 2014 was $16.0 billion on $476.3 billion of revenue

In both years, Walmart's After-tax Net Income was 3.4% of Gross Revenue
 
I pay about 10.7% on $21,000. Seems like they pay to little of a percent to me...
Sam Walton grew up in the depression. He milked the family cow, bottled the surplus and delivered it personally to customers. He delivered newspapers, sold magazine subscriptions. Went off to college, worked for J.C. Penney after graduating for $75/month. Joined the war effort, became a Captain. Got a loan from his Dad and used his life savings to buy a franchise department store. The franchisee was also his landlord and Sam did so well, the landlord refused to renew the lease and forced Sam to sell the store back to him. Lesson learned and the rest, as they say, is history.

The company that Sam Walton built with his own blood, sweat and tears and dedicated his entire life to, paid about 2% of all federal corporate income taxes last year. What % did you pay?
 
That makes no sense, sorry.
Alright, let me spell it out for you then.

You asked @ryzno how much he paid after stating that Wal-Mart paid 2% of all corporate income taxes (also while posting an article explaining that they hid away $76b to avoid having to pay more, bravo sir). Pretty sure with the figure Ryzno posted, he's not a corporation.
 
As a consumer and a supporter of fair wages,
Fair wages being wages mutually agreed upon by both parties in a private agreement, right?

Or are fair wages forced with the armed backing of the government?

In my mind, the moment force comes into play then any use of the word "fair" is BS.
 
Fair wages being wages mutually agreed upon by both parties in a private agreement, right?

Or are fair wages forced with the armed backing of the government?

In my mind, the moment force comes into play then any use of the word "fair" is BS.
Fair as in one that's reasonable and keeps up with inflation/cost of living.
 
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