[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?


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Everyone talking about Donald's comments about women but forget about Hillary's comments about Bill's victims and how she treated them.

I swear double standards every day.

Thing that irks me is he's talking about the Hollywood sex scene, she belittled and threatened sexual assault victims so her husband didn't get in trouble.

Her words about women are far worse. And she also assisted in the crimes making her just as guilty as Bill.
 
What man has not spoken like that in private?
Pretty much every man I've ever known, but, of course, I haven't known every man. I've spent many hours in locker rooms and change rooms with dozens and dozens of different men and Trump's words, not intended for public consumption, would fit right in. In fact, he'd probably be ragged mercilessly after saying something like that because most of us don't brag about what we could have had and no one would believe it anyway:cheers:
 
Everyone talking about Donald's comments about women but forget about Hillary's comments about Bill's victims and how she treated them.

I swear double standards every day.

Thing that irks me is he's talking about the Hollywood sex scene, she belittled and threatened sexual assault victims so her husband didn't get in trouble.

Her words about women are far worse. And she also assisted in the crimes making her just as guilty as Bill.
The media is certainly playing a double standard here. I see a lot of articles about Trump's lies (or alleged lies) while giving Hillary a clean pass. Hillary even lied about her name, for crying out loud.
 
The media is certainly playing a double standard here. I see a lot of articles about Trump's lies (or alleged lies) while giving Hillary a clean pass. Hillary even lied about her name, for crying out loud.
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No Gary Johnson video so I think he got double standard towards Libertarians.

Sarcasm
 
We got Seeker Daily to save the day.



No Gary Johnson video so I think he got double standard towards Libertarians.

Sarcasm

Nobody is worried about him. I admit I never heard of Allepo(spellcheck needed). But the media wasn't exactly talking about it either, till he messed up.
Now the world leader question screwed him. It shows he's not savy of the world. Hell he could have said Gandhi.
I was thinking of swaying if his marijuana views would have caught on. But it didn't and I'm not going to waste my vote on someone who doesn't have a statistical chance.

Edit: What happened to Jill? Did they follow through with the charges? Last I heard she spray painted a bulldozer during the pipeline protest and I haven't heard anything about her since.
 
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Damn this presidential election really is choosing between the plague and cholera.

I actually feel sorry for Americans that they have to decide between an evil and corrupt snake of a woman (that might be physically unfit to do the job), and a business tycoon that can't stop saying stupid **** and making an arse out of himself.

Which ever of the 2 gets elected, i fear it won't bring much good to the country nor to international stability.
 
I actually feel sorry for Americans that they have to decide between an evil and corrupt snake of a woman (that might be physically unfit to do the job), and a business tycoon that can't stop saying stupid **** and making an arse out of himself.
Fortunately, they don't.
 
And the decision will be made for them by those who do? Not sure what your point is apart from pointing out an inaccuracy with my post :dopey:
The point is that you are wrong.

Four candidates can achieve sufficient electoral college votes to become President. They are Donald Trump, Gary Johnson, Hillary Clinton and Jill Stein.

A small number of voters may be faced with just Trump or Clinton on the paper, but the majority will have one or both of Johnson and Stein.

That notwithstanding, voters may also choose to not vote, to spoil their vote or to write in a name of their choice (I recommend Terry Crews).

So no-one has to choose between just Trump and Clinton - and thus you have no-one to feel sorry for...
 
A friend of mine in Seattle's Green community met Jill Stein a number of years ago when Stein was living with her close friend. Her impression of Stein was she was extremely self-righteous, very rigidly and narrowly focused, and solely on her own "Green" agenda and issues. In short, probably not a good president of all the people.
 
I think I'm going to hold my nose and vote for Trump. I think it's more important to stop Clinton than it is to vote my conscience; besides there's really nobody I like anyway, this includes Stein and Johnson.

My vote doesn't matter anyway. For one thing, I'll be voting in Massachusetts and there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that Clinton will lose that state. For another, I have a feeling that the "official" vote tally will name her the winner no matter which way people actually voted.
 
The point is that you are wrong.

Four candidates can achieve sufficient electoral college votes to become President. They are Donald Trump, Gary Johnson, Hillary Clinton and Jill Stein.

A small number of voters may be faced with just Trump or Clinton on the paper, but the majority will have one or both of Johnson and Stein.

That notwithstanding, voters may also choose to not vote, to spoil their vote or to write in a name of their choice (I recommend Terry Crews).

So no-one has to choose between just Trump and Clinton - and thus you have no-one to feel sorry for...
You really believe one of the 'alternatives' might actually have a shot this time? I'd be all for it yes, but truth of the matter is that we'll probably see pigs flying before either Johnson or Stein has a shot of moving into the white house.

So that point sadly is a bit irrelevant as we all know it's either going to be Clinton or Trump (if they survive until November that is).
 
The point is that you are wrong.

Four candidates can achieve sufficient electoral college votes to become President. They are Donald Trump, Gary Johnson, Hillary Clinton and Jill Stein.

A small number of voters may be faced with just Trump or Clinton on the paper, but the majority will have one or both of Johnson and Stein.

That notwithstanding, voters may also choose to not vote, to spoil their vote or to write in a name of their choice (I recommend Terry Crews).

So no-one has to choose between just Trump and Clinton - and thus you have no-one to feel sorry for...
According to TheBlaze, Gary Johnson does have ballot access in all 50 states and D.C.

Jill Stein, on the other hand, has ballot access in 45 states and D.C., is available as a write-in candidate in Georgia, Indiana and North Carolina, but is not available as a candidate in Nevada, Oklahoma, and South Dakota.
 
You really believe one of the 'alternatives' might actually have a shot this time? I'd be all for it yes, but truth of the matter is that we'll probably see pigs flying before either Johnson or Stein has a shot of moving into the white house.

So that point sadly is a bit irrelevant as we all know it's either going to be Clinton or Trump (if they survive until November that is).

The situation is so desperate, surreal and liquid, it feels ripe for something really strange and unusual happening. Our road may get twisted and the ride get bumpy. In a sense, pigs may fly.
 
The point is that you are wrong.

Four candidates can achieve sufficient electoral college votes to become President. They are Donald Trump, Gary Johnson, Hillary Clinton and Jill Stein.

A small number of voters may be faced with just Trump or Clinton on the paper, but the majority will have one or both of Johnson and Stein.

That notwithstanding, voters may also choose to not vote, to spoil their vote or to write in a name of their choice (I recommend Terry Crews).

So no-one has to choose between just Trump and Clinton - and thus you have no-one to feel sorry for...

Without either one of them being in a debate, it's hard to believe either one of the non main party candidates have a chance, but than again, you never know.

I mean, Terry Crews is a PC gamer now, so he has the r/pcmasterrace going for him, so he might have a chance. :lol:

The negative about Hillary is that she's most likely going to invade Syria and continue Middle East hegemony.

But she's going to move towards green energy, which will probably send natural gas and oil prices in the tank over the next 4 years, which will undermine Middle Eastern oil and Russian natural gas, so that can be viewed as a positive.
 
According to TheBlaze, Gary Johnson does have ballot access in all 50 states and D.C.
Ah, good news. That wasn't the case last time I checked. Does he get on all ballots in all voting districts of all states? I'm not totally sure how it works on the smallest levels.

You really believe one of the 'alternatives' might actually have a shot this time?
I expressed no opinion either way. I pointed out that no American is forced to chose between Trump and Clinton so, fortunately for them and you, you have no-one to feel sorry for.
So that point sadly is a bit irrelevant as we all know it's either going to be Clinton or Trump (if they survive until November that is).
Which has nothing to do with your original comment that you felt sorry for Americans that had to pick between the two:
I actually feel sorry for Americans that they have to decide between an evil and corrupt snake of a woman (that might be physically unfit to do the job), and a business tycoon that can't stop saying stupid **** and making an arse out of himself.
Perhaps you meant that you feel sorry for Americans that one of the two is likely to be elected?
 
Ah, good news. That wasn't the case last time I checked. Does he get on all ballots in all voting districts of all states? I'm not totally sure how it works on the smallest levels.
He had to get a 1000 signature petition certified by the Secretary of State in each state. In Rhode Island, the last state to certify him, he submitted a 1,033 signature petition and it was barely certified.
 
And the decision will be made for them by those who do? Not sure what your point is apart from pointing out an inaccuracy with my post :dopey:

Because if people weren't stupid and actually bothered to read up on how to do an election rather than go forward with choice a or b as if it's mandatory like you had stated, they'd know they have more options. I mean there are third parties and write in votes, what a world it'd be if people knew this and didn't run their lives off of popular misgivings.

You really believe one of the 'alternatives' might actually have a shot this time? I'd be all for it yes, but truth of the matter is that we'll probably see pigs flying before either Johnson or Stein has a shot of moving into the white house.

So that point sadly is a bit irrelevant as we all know it's either going to be Clinton or Trump (if they survive until November that is).

This is moving the goal post a bit, considering you said you felt sorry because my Nation is stuck with these two choices, yet as @Famine clearly pointed out that isn't the case. The question and statements used by you prior had nothing to do with who was more likely to win, but rather a fact you have no reason to feel sorry. This isn't a game where your pick winning matters. You don't pick based on who is more likely to win, you pick based on who you feel represents you. Once people figure that out perhaps we may move to a point in time where our politics actually work for us rather than against.
 
Because if people weren't stupid and actually bothered to read up on how to do an election rather than go forward with choice a or b as if it's mandatory like you had stated, they'd know they have more options. I mean there are third parties and write in votes, what a world it'd be if people knew this and didn't run their lives off of popular misgivings.
If people weren't stupid you'd probably have 4 different candidates for President. :sly:
 
He seems to have like 2 answers to questions, but he's not getting the right questions to use those answers, and he's using them anyway.
 
Trump brought some guests to the debate. :lol:

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