[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?


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I can't wait till protectionism takes over, inflation will kick in and then the Fed will try follow it with interest rates which should bring economic apocolpse.

Atleast here in Australia, our economy is basically resting on a Property Bubble with the Construction it brings, that will pop at the hint of an intrest rate rise, a big fat rise though well that will be prime time for those who have been left out of the market all this time, some nice investments in Metals whilst this happens should go along way to giving me the Deposit.

Sorry not sorry.
 
We didn't qualify for food stamps when we had our son. The crap they give you in the WIC vouchers is crap and they stop giving them when the child turns 5, when they should start school. What do you do with condensed milk and cheese that don't melt and 1% milk?
I don't know how food stamps work up there but all you need down here is the EBT card and the pin number and a cart of uncooked food. I've bought some off neighbors before who don't even have kids.

Uh wic gives a ton of decent stuff...so
 
Uh wic gives a ton of decent stuff...so
Yeah the formula was good while it lasted, the cereal, bread, and eggs were good later on. I literally gave the rest of the crap away.
Also what they actually give you depends on their judgment of the child's nutrition when you go every three months for the check up/renewal.
 
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Yeah the formula was good while it lasted, the cereal, bread, and eggs were good later on. I literally gave the rest of the crap away.
Also what they actually give you depends on their judgment of the child's nutrition when you go every three months for the check up/renewal.

Eh, not sure what your state does, but they gave the dairy, vegetables and fruit for quite some time along with other stuff. I also recall beans, fish, grains and a choice between peanut butter and something else. Along with frozen juice or 64 oz juice. Point is they gave plenty of decent stuff, the issue was too much at one time.

Never used the formula cause my kids weren't formula fed.
 
I worked in a grocery store for nearly 7 years so I'm very familiar with WIC and as big of a pain it is to deal with as a cashier I fully support it and wish food stamps would go to a similar set-up (with some obvious changes).

Eh, not sure what your state does, but they gave the dairy, vegetables and fruit for quite some time along with other stuff. I also recall beans, fish, grains and a choice between peanut butter and something else. Along with frozen juice or 64 oz juice. Point is they gave plenty of decent stuff, the issue was too much at one time.

Never used the formula cause my kids weren't formula fed.

It was similarly set-up here when I worked with it and the cheese that you could select from was real cheese, processed cheese wasn't allowed.

The timing on the vouchers was a little odd as well, they would give you a months worth of milk on a voucher, problem is it doesn't stay good that long. :lol:
 
We didn't qualify for food stamps when we had our son. The crap they give you in the WIC vouchers is crap and they stop giving them when the child turns 5, when they should start school. What do you do with condensed milk and cheese that don't melt and 1% milk?
I don't know how food stamps work up there but all you need down here is the EBT card and the pin number and a cart of uncooked food. I've bought some off neighbors before who don't even have kids.


...aaaaand we're missing the point - which is that parents can always mismanage their funds, and they're still obligated to meet their child's needs.
 
I worked in a grocery store for nearly 7 years so I'm very familiar with WIC and as big of a pain it is to deal with as a cashier I fully support it and wish food stamps would go to a similar set-up (with some obvious changes).



It was similarly set-up here when I worked with it and the cheese that you could select from was real cheese, processed cheese wasn't allowed.

The timing on the vouchers was a little odd as well, they would give you a months worth of milk on a voucher, problem is it doesn't stay good that long. :lol:

Well you could split it up here, you didn't have to get it all at one time, it was just easier to do so because clerks and stores usually made a fuss. So long as you used the checks in the month time span given but still, at any one trip you would get like 3-4 gallons.
 
A system that creates an atmosphere where individuality and individual attention are quashed in favour of conforming to a set of norms and standards written by some faceless bureaucrat in a far away capital.
So your solution is to scrap Common Core?

That's going to allow each state to set a different curriculum. Which is going to mean that an education will be more valuable in some states and less so in others. It's entirely possible that students will be unable to access tertiary education simply because their secondary education isn't sufficient.

The only way around this is a greater reliance on standardised testing (and the United States already does more standardised testing than anyone else). As a general rule, standardised testing is a pretty bad idea. It's less engaging for students because it's only using their most basic thinking skills - the ability to recall and comprehend. There is no provision for their analytical, critical or creative thinking skills.

A system where the rules are more important than the children and where teachers aren't nearly as free to be compassionate human beings interacting 1 on 1 with children
Teachers are educators. Our first and foremost concern is making sure that students achieve educational outcomes. Those rules and guidelines that you are so dismissive of outline what we need to ensure students are capable of upon completion of the course.

but are instead forced to follow guidelines that discourage close relationships with their charges.
Which would be completely inappropriate. It's one thing to have rappport with a class, but there is one absolute imperative in teaching: never, ever be alone with a student.
 
Eh, not sure what your state does, but they gave the dairy, vegetables and fruit for quite some time along with other stuff. I also recall beans, fish, grains and a choice between peanut butter and something else. Along with frozen juice or 64 oz juice. Point is they gave plenty of decent stuff, the issue was too much at one time.

Never used the formula cause my kids weren't formula fed.
There were a few things I forgot, I don't do the shopping but I gave away a fair portion of the stuff as far as I'm concerned.

As far as the formula, she was unable to produce enough breast milk, soo...
 
Shocker (not). NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg agrees with POTUS Elect Trump that the U.S. has a disproportionate burden in financing NATO.

 
Sessions is an idiot, hope Trump changes his mind.

The irony is that all marijuana legislation was voted directly by the citizens of their respective states, and proposal had nothing to do with any elected legislators (since many politicians feared backlash over proposing it).

But of course, who am I to mention the purpose of the Tenth Amendment to an esteemed candidate for Attorney General?
 
The irony is that all marijuana legislation was voted directly by the citizens of their respective states, and proposal had nothing to do with any elected legislators (since many politicians feared backlash over proposing it).

Oh, that sneaky Tenth Amendment.

And now that conservative states like Florida and Nevada are legalizing it in some form, it will be harder for a guy like Sessions to pursue an Anti-Marijuana policy and bring back the War on Drugs at the Federal level, like Federal raids in legal states. But I do fully expect Sessions to keep the Schedule 1 classification and basically do nothing to sync the state laws with the Federal laws. Furthermore, the states that did adopt legalization may be very apprehensive to push forward on investing in the industry until this is cleared up at the Federal level, which is a setback imo, hope I'm wrong on this.
 
Then again, Trump may tell Sessions, "You got the job but don't push the anti-pot thing".

Not saying that's likely, mind you, but it's a possibility.
 
And now that conservative states like Florida and Nevada are legalizing it in some form, it will be harder for a guy like Sessions to pursue an Anti-Marijuana policy and bring back the War on Drugs at the Federal level, like Federal raids in legal states. But I do fully expect Sessions to keep the Schedule 1 classification and basically do nothing to sync the state laws with the Federal laws. Furthermore, the states that did adopt legalization may be very apprehensive to push forward on investing in the industry until this is cleared up at the Federal level, which is a setback imo, hope I'm wrong on this.

If only we had a pot-smoking liberal in the whitehouse, then the DEA would certainly drop the schedule 1 classification... oh wait.
 
If only we had a pot-smoking liberal in the whitehouse, then the DEA would certainly drop the schedule 1 classification... oh wait.

Obama did get his fair share of criticism for not doing more to push the rescheduling of Marijuana from a Class 1 to a class 2, but ultimately the POTUS has very little to do with this process. Though the executive branch does have some paths to reschedule Marijuana, it is usually handled by the DEA. It also can be rescheduled at the congressional level but Congress usually does not intervene in matters handled by the DEA, it's their jurisdiction.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removal_of_cannabis_from_Schedule_I_of_the_Controlled_Substances_Act

This bit here directly applies to Jeff Sessions as the new AG

"The Controlled Substances Act also provides for a rulemaking process by which the United States Attorney General can reschedule cannabis administratively. These proceedings represent the only means of legalizing medical cannabis without an act of Congress. Rescheduling supporters have often cited the lengthy petition review process as a reason why cannabis is still illegal.[9] The first petition took 22 years to review, the second took 7 years, the third was denied 9 years later. A 2013 petition by two state governors is still pending.

Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton supports transferring cannabis to Schedule II,[24] while Bernie Sanders has introduced a bill to remove it from the schedules altogether.[25]
 
Obama did get his fair share of criticism for not doing more to push the rescheduling of Marijuana from a Class 1 to a class 2, but ultimately the POTUS has very little to do with this process. Though the executive branch does have some paths to reschedule Marijuana, it is usually handled by the DEA. It also can be rescheduled at the congressional level but Congress usually does not intervene in matters handled by the DEA, it's their jurisdiction.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removal_of_cannabis_from_Schedule_I_of_the_Controlled_Substances_Act

This bit here directly applies to Jeff Sessions as the new AG

If only we had a pot-smoking liberal in the whitehouse, then the DEA would certainly drop the schedule 1 classification (due to the paths available to the executive branch)... oh wait.
 
If only we had a pot-smoking liberal in the whitehouse, then the DEA would certainly drop the schedule 1 classification (due to the paths available to the executive branch)... oh wait.

DEA is blaming the FDA, denied in Aug 2016. It's just a game of kick the can now...


"For now, state laws have no bearing on marijuana’s status under federal law. In August the DEA published its denial of two petitions–one submitted in 2011 by Democrats Lincoln D. Chafee, then governor of Rhode Island, and Christine O. Gregoire, then governor of Washington–to reschedule marijuana. The other petition had been submitted in 2009 by Bryan Krumm, a psychiatric nurse practitioner in Albuquerque, N.M. According to his website, Krumm, an Army veteran who helped draft New Mexico’s medical marijuana legislation, uses marijuana to treat post-traumatic stress disorder.

DEA said it denied the petitions because the Food and Drug Administration had not yet approved a medical use for marijuana. “DEA and FDA believe that the drug approval process is the most appropriate way to assess whether a product derived from marijuana or its constituents is safe and effective and has an accepted medical use,” according to a DEA press release issued when it announced that it had denied the petitions.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ritarub...l-say-it-has-no-therapeutic-use/#4136269435a1
 
I can see a scenario where the feds end the ban on marijuana all together.

Conservatives hate lawlessness. And conservatives believe strongly in state's rights.

I can't see how they will be able to overlook all of the states that break the law. But what are they going to do? Not much, I think.

I think the cat is out of the bag on this issue.

I don't think the conservatives will be able to live with a growing number of scofflaw states. Something will have to give.
 
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There were a few things I forgot, I don't do the shopping but I gave away a fair portion of the stuff as far as I'm concerned.

As far as the formula, she was unable to produce enough breast milk, soo...

That's fine I'm just saying that wic is pretty good, and usually people on wic aren't going to qualify for food stamps cause they're not that kind of poor. I guess is the best way to put it.

I find it hilarious that there are various drugs, over the counter and prescribed that are worse than marijuana. I guess when generations perpetuate the massive harm their children end up doing the same and then we get this. Gee if people didn't perpetuate utter trite, because a big organization with financial backing said "don't do this" this non-issue would be just that, a non-issue.
 
I'm surprised that the Trump tweet with regard to Mike Pense's trip[ to watch Hamilton hasn't been mentioned.

While some of the audience booing him could be considered rude, the comments made by the director on behalf of the cast were more than polite and respectful.

As such the twitter responses...

"Our wonderful future V.P. Mike Pence was harassed last night at the theater by the cast of Hamilton, cameras blazing.This should not happen!" Donald Trump tweeted.

"The Theater must always be a safe and special place.The cast of Hamilton was very rude last night to a very good man, Mike Pence. Apologize!"

Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-hamilton-mike-pence-231661

....would seem to be both inaccurate and a free speech issue. Should the President elect really be saying that criticism of the incoming administration 'should not happen'?
 
Should the President elect really be saying that criticism of the incoming administration 'should not happen'?
I'm all for giving someone a chance, but his outbursts against free speech as well as appointing well-known racists in his staff don't make for a great start IMO.
 
I'm surprised that the Trump tweet with regard to Mike Pense's trip[ to watch Hamilton hasn't been mentioned.

While some of the audience booing him could be considered rude, the comments made by the director on behalf of the cast were more than polite and respectful.

As such the twitter responses...

"Our wonderful future V.P. Mike Pence was harassed last night at the theater by the cast of Hamilton, cameras blazing.This should not happen!" Donald Trump tweeted.

"The Theater must always be a safe and special place.The cast of Hamilton was very rude last night to a very good man, Mike Pence. Apologize!"

Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-hamilton-mike-pence-231661

....would seem to be both inaccurate and a free speech issue. Should the President elect really be saying that criticism of the incoming administration 'should not happen'?

He didn't say that.
 
I can see a scenario where the feds end the ban on marijuana all together.

Conservatives hate lawlessness. And conservatives believe strongly in state's rights.

I can't see how they will be able to overlook all of the states that break the law. But what are they going to do? Not much, I think.

I think the cat is out of the bag on this issue.

I don't think the conservatives will be able to live with a growing number of scofflaw states. Something will have to give.
It will depend on what they value more, abiding by the law or states rights. If states rights are more important, then we will see legalized pot in all 50 states during Trump's term.
 
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