Post a pic of your real car

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Well it shares most of the engine and bodywork with the standard GT-Four and Alltrac, so yeah I do know what you mean mate. I just love it too much to not point out the differences when someone thinks it's a normal GT-Four or Alltrac lol. Perhaps that's just me being a snob, but I think it's because I'm such a car nut, that now I have a proper, rare and special piece of racing history, that I want to tell people about it haha.

Differences to a standard GT-Four:

-The obvious - Lightweight open front bar, different bonnet with hot air outlet instead of scoop, bonnet also has two rear facing outlets and a small scoop to feed cooling air to the cam belt housing. Front and rear bumpers have small lightweight aluminium bumpers underneath instead of the large heavy steel ones in the normal GT-Four.

-Water to air charge cooler instead of air to air intercooler, the charge cooler uses a secondary radiator, separate from the engine radiator, and an electric water pump. Charge cooler radiator also has a water misting system, though this isn't connected from the factory, it just had to be bolted in place to homologate it for use in the rally car (I plan on hooking mine up, because it's cool lol).

-Different turbo from the stock GT-Four, which has a steel turbine wheel instead of ceramic.

-Larger AFM

-More aggressive ECU tune, with fuel maps up to a 17psi fuel cut, instead of 12psi fuel cut in the GT-Four.

-Lightweight, lower restriction 2.5 inch exhaust From the factory (still far too restrictive, exhaust upgrades unlock so much power in ST185s)

-Different suspension settings

-Different gearbox (this box was offered on later GT-Fours) with triple cone syncros on second and third, dual syncro rings on fifth, teflon coated shift forks, short throw shifter, and a few other improvements.

+ a few things I've no doubt missed.

Power figures:

GT-Four/Alltrac - 155kw (207hp)

Group A - 173kw (232hp)

With upgrades, both have a lot of potential. If you have an unlimited budget for mods, the only upside to owning a group a is the rarity and collectibility, though you have to remember to keep all the standard parts when you upgrade.

:lol: No it's fine, I don't blame you, it's a really cool car and I'd probably be the same way if I had one. Also it's nice to see somebody who cares about theirs, most people just beat them to hell and back. Good luck finding a half decent one here in the states, I dunno what it's like for you guys.

And I actually didn't know they had so many differences, too bad we never got them.
 
:lol: No it's fine, I don't blame you, it's a really cool car and I'd probably be the same way if I had one. Also it's nice to see somebody who cares about theirs, most people just beat them to hell and back. Good luck finding a half decent one here in the states, I dunno what it's like for you guys.

And I actually didn't know they had so many differences, too bad we never got them.

Yeah being such a motorsport nut I know their history, and know they are a car worthy of preservation. Also the Aus delivered version (Grp A Rallye) only ever had 150 units made out of the 5000 homologation run, and I know a lot of those have been destroyed in competition and by idiotic owners, so I know I've got a rare car on my hands. I'm a big Toyota fan too, so I'll look after it for them :)

Mine is only the second genuine Grp A I've ever seen in my home state, the other being a black one my doctor had when I was a kid.

There is a huge amount of people making mock ups out of normal GT-Fours and aftermarket bumpers and bonnets, and trying to flog them off as the real deal. On a used car website I found 4 supposed Group As for sale, but when I looked through the pics they all had things that gave them away as fakes. One was so obvious it had series I taillights (Group As all had the series II taillights with the black out border) and an air to air intercooler lol. Another had the right bodywork and lights, and the chargecooler, and even had a photo of the LE build number on the centre console, but you can buy those console build numbers off ebay, and most people don't realise and think that's how to tell if it's genuine. The one thing they all lacked though, was a gold build plate in the engine bay, next to the normal one on the radiator support. These gold build plates are only on genuine group a cars, and will have the build number and even the original owner's name stamped on them. You can see the gold plate on mine in the photo with the bonnet up.

Sorry I'm ranting now lol. Can't half tell I'm an enthusiast right?
 
Finally got a picture of them together in the driveway...
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Yessir, 1988 ST165 #2866. She was made a rally car when brand new by Union 7 rally team. Lots of unheard of options like sunroof delete, rear wiper delete, and non popup headlights.

Very cool! It's good to see Toyota's awesome rally weapons well represented here :gtpflag:
 
I was giving my Miata a quick rinse off and decided to take a few shots today
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You can see the new Cobalt exhaust that was installed a few days ago. It sounds mean. I love it.
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And finally I was messing around with some filters on my phone and ended up with this:
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I know the car is not centered or anything, I'm no photographer but in my opinion it came out great! :D
 

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