Project CARS 2 General Discussion Thread - Out Now on PS4/XB1/PC

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If Bob didn't come back for fuel/pit I will bet it's because of the amount of fuel you had set in pit strategy options or whatever. He didn't come back to pit because he had more than enough fuel in the tank to complete without requiring refuelling. Need to check those options preferably beforehand.

Pit strategy is always set for full fuel every time. Not sure what I'm supposed to set differently to trick him into pitting. Always checked and saved before every race and almost every session. Setup in general is always checked and saved before every session(sometimes you don't get the right amount of fuel if you don't go into the setup menu). Confirmed pit strategy options on the way into the pits before switching drivers. Can't tell it how many laps to try to run specifically. The AI can't run the Ring in any version except the GP-course-only versions, period. Most of the bots skip the pits and run out of gas every time I run the track. Every time. An occasional problem could be blamed on the game stacking multiple cars in pit stalls but not the amount that happens every single time.

Bob did an extra lap that he shouldn't have done since he uses so much more fuel than me so I was already worried(our stall was empty with nobody on the way in when he went by). But he made it around the extra lap and could have pitted with 0.1 or 0.2 liters left, still couldn't be bothered with the pit lane and our empty pit stall. Ran out in turn 1 lol.

I was having fun driving but it was kind of a mercy killing in a way. It was going to be a pretty boring run to the finish with less than half of the field on the track(assuming nobody else ran out of gas). There was only one or two of the same cars I was driving left, down from 6 at the start. Even the cars that were pitting every single lap eventually got bored and just stayed out to run out of gas.
 
Been eyeing up the Ultra Edition for some time... when It was announced I was watching It on Amazon UK when It was listed and I never saw It available to purchase! Was then Sold out since Day 1 basically! (Somehow). I kept Alerts on If It was to come back Into stock and over the last month or two I had a few alerts saying the Ultra Edition of the PS4 Version was available within Minutes gone again!

My day finally came earlier this week! Funnily enough I was at Insomnia 61 in Birmingham playing Project Cars 2 for the first time (Sadly on an Pad as they had no Wheel Setups to showcase the Game strangely enough...) I got an Alert & Pre Ordered It within one minute of It appearing in my email! I also managed to use the Extra £20 Off Code via Amazon that they're offering on Pre Order Games at the moment. Managed to Pre Order for £408.00 (Prime Discount) Also I have a £50 Amazon Gift Voucher from a work incentive to put it towards It that I had been saving! So that's £358.00. Alot more to swallow then £430...

Saying that I loved the first Game. I have faith in SMS Developing and changing the things that were not quite right with the First. They hold some great presence at Expo's/Events that I've attended. The 1/12th McLaren 720s will be placed in my new living room on release day on a LACK IKEA Shelf that I've Installed in the lounge. Wondering If It's actually encased in a See Through Box or I'll have to source one of those. Some great Extra's. September & October will be very expensive months for me...
 
Pit strategy is always set for full fuel every time. Not sure what I'm supposed to set differently to trick him into pitting. Always checked and saved before every race and almost every session. Setup in general is always checked and saved before every session(sometimes you don't get the right amount of fuel if you don't go into the setup menu). Confirmed pit strategy options on the way into the pits before switching drivers. Can't tell it how many laps to try to run specifically. The AI can't run the Ring in any version except the GP-course-only versions, period. Most of the bots skip the pits and run out of gas every time I run the track. Every time. An occasional problem could be blamed on the game stacking multiple cars in pit stalls but not the amount that happens every single time.

Bob did an extra lap that he shouldn't have done since he uses so much more fuel than me so I was already worried(our stall was empty with nobody on the way in when he went by). But he made it around the extra lap and could have pitted with 0.1 or 0.2 liters left, still couldn't be bothered with the pit lane and our empty pit stall. Ran out in turn 1 lol.

I was having fun driving but it was kind of a mercy killing in a way. It was going to be a pretty boring run to the finish with less than half of the field on the track(assuming nobody else ran out of gas). There was only one or two of the same cars I was driving left, down from 6 at the start. Even the cars that were pitting every single lap eventually got bored and just stayed out to run out of gas.

If I remember correctly when you go into the pits yourself there's still an option to adjust settings (amount of fuel etc) before you choose to continue driving yourself or choosing to let Bob take over/change driver. Then when the amount of fuel set will last for X amount of laps until needs next pitting as the fuel indicator will warn.
 
I only play offline and agree with this. I had some AMAZING 24hours races!
Me too. I'm totally underwhelmed by online in racing games, couldn't care less about venturing in to it. Though I do love watching online races in iRacing, who seem to have figured out the whole online thing to make it enjoyable and very watchable.
 
Regarding the Deluxe (digital) version, is there any advantage in pre-ordering it, that I'm not seeing?

It costs 30€ more than the normal version, which is exactly the price of the Season Pass. And that you can get later, at any time and when there's actually DLC available.
 
semantics Scaff ... fixes , features , improvements
Errm, no, just no. If you have the idea that a bugfix is the same as a feature you have no idea what you are talking about. But I get the feeling you do know it and are just trolling.
 
Regarding the Deluxe (digital) version, is there any advantage in pre-ordering it, that I'm not seeing?

It costs 30€ more than the normal version, which is exactly the price of the Season Pass. And that you can get later, at any time and when there's actually DLC available.

• STANDARD EDITION:
Includes the full game, plus the exclusive Japanese Cars Pack that features 4 cars from iconic Japanese manufacturers Honda and Nissan—the Honda Euro Spec Civic Type-R, the fastest hot hatch to have ever lapped the Nordschleife; the thrill-a-second Honda Project 2&4 with its stratospheric redline at 14,000rpm; the original and one-and-only “Godzilla”, the Skyline GT-R (R32) Group A; and the brutal and raw twin-turbo V8 Nissan 280ZX IMSA GTX.
• DELUXE EDITION:
Includes the full game, and the Japanese Cars Pack, plus the Season Pass (that includes all 4 additional contents that will enhance and extend the overall Project CARS 2 experience after release), as well as the Motorsport Pack that includes 4 enthralling racing cars curated from 40 years of motoring history.

The Deluxe Edition includes the Motorsport Pack.
 
This is true.
Looks like the only difference is buying it all as one pack rather than individually.

I've already pre-ordered the Deluxe Edition.
 
This is true.
Looks like the only difference is buying it all as one pack rather than individually.

Fair enough, I will probably just go with the standard for now and see if the season pass is worth it after the first pack. :cheers:

On the topic of DLC, does SMS integrate DLC into single player (in other words will you get offers to drive DLC cars if you've purchased them)?
 
If I remember correctly when you go into the pits yourself there's still an option to adjust settings (amount of fuel etc) before you choose to continue driving yourself or choosing to let Bob take over/change driver. Then when the amount of fuel set will last for X amount of laps until needs next pitting as the fuel indicator will warn.

Yes, there is an option for that. Which is set to full fuel. You can't be adjusting it for him on every single stop or it defeats the purpose of having him as a second driver. But I do check it and set it the first time to make sure he gets a full tank and a set of tires. That's what I meant by wondering if there was a "trick" to convince him he needed to stop by perhaps giving him a little less fuel or something. The desired pit strategy is also confirmed checked as the default after checking the actual settings.

I did notice in the past that it seems he is willing to double stint tires but once they get worn to where he wants a new set he'll just pit every lap until you change the pit strategy to give him tires. But he never gets anything other than full fuel from me. The estimated number of laps is usually much less than what I can do, but Bob always seems to use more fuel so it's closer to accurate for him, and he is generally from what I've read supposed to(and my experience shows he does) pit a bit earlier than he "needs to" which in this case should have been every 2 laps instead of 3(I could do 4). Instead he went 3, and then continued on to lap 4 which he surprisingly did complete, but decided to try 5 and came up about 15 miles short.

I also noticed that the estimate varies, one time it said a full tank would get me 6 laps, usually 4.x and sometimes 3.5 laps. Not sure if that has anything to do with it. He might have thought he could go farther than he actually could. Or maybe he just couldn't figure out how to pit. The other bots in the same car usually would do 2 laps but sometimes only 1 and sometimes 3, and eventually they would just stay out until they ran out of gas. I've made enough observations of this behavior to know it's not a matter of the pit spots being occupied. They just get confused about something.

Sorry to hijack the thread with pCARS 1 discussion, but I still haven't heard it confirmed whether this well-known problem has been fixed or if the option is even still in the game for pCARS 2. It's rather important to me since I love endurance racing as well as the Nürburgring(although I do wish they would use the full track for the endurance race... not that there aren't problems with the bots not pitting and/or not leaving the pits and/or the player getting disqualified for trying to pit on that version as well). Worst place to have such major problems for me. I've tried a variety of different races there and I've never had one that worked correctly if it was long enough for a pit stop.
 
Still curious about the trophy list.
Total count, will there be a community trophy again?

Edit... For those that are interested.
Just watched this, it would appear to confirm the 24hr race in real time trophy is back.
Bottom left of the load screen @ 1:00.

 
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This is true.
Looks like the only difference is buying it all as one pack rather than individually.

I've already pre-ordered the Deluxe Edition.

Rethinking now my prior decision to buy the Deluxe edition being that the only difference between that and the Standard edition is the Season Pass is the additional DLC when it does get released some time in the future. Doesn't make much sense if the price difference is pretty much the same and the DLC would be available in the Season Pass at the same time. Would have been more an incentive if the Deluxe edition was at a competitive price reduction. So now thinking of going with the Pre-order Standard edition.
 
The Season Pass will give you 4 Packs for the price of 3. there you do the savings. Plus the 4 Race Cars. Which i guess will yet again take a while for Standalone release.

So Deluxe Edition is the way to go if you are convinced the Game will be good.
 
The Season Pass will give you 4 Packs for the price of 3. there you do the savings. Plus the 4 Race Cars. Which i guess will yet again take a while for Standalone release.

So Deluxe Edition is the way to go if you are convinced the Game will be good.
5 packs for the price of 3 really. Because you get the Motorsport Pack with it.
 
The Season Pass will give you 4 Packs for the price of 3. there you do the savings. Plus the 4 Race Cars. Which i guess will yet again take a while for Standalone release.

So Deluxe Edition is the way to go if you are convinced the Game will be good.
No, it's not.

You're missing the fact that you can get the SP later, at the same price and with the same car packs.

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The Season Pass will give you 4 Packs for the price of 3. there you do the savings. Plus the 4 Race Cars. Which i guess will yet again take a while for Standalone release.

So Deluxe Edition is the way to go if you are convinced the Game will be good.

Dayummm. Confused again. Rethinking my rethinking.
 
No, it's not.

You're missing the fact that you can get the SP later, at the same price and with the same car packs.

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Of course you can do that. I just said that it makes sense to get Deluxe Version. Anyway Season Pass is the best Value
 
This is the internet. Literally the only way we communicate is through semantics.


Exactly mate Scaff is a software tester he knows exactly what I mean .... without being a pedant we are all aware that nobody delivers software by the "ton" :) do they LOL . its just the kids getting excited because you have an objective view which does nt fit their mood du jour.

I actually want this game I have just built a demon PC to run it on so I want it as much anyone .
 
Exactly mate Scaff is a software tester he knows exactly what I mean .... without being a pedant we are all aware that nobody delivers software by the "ton" :) do they LOL . its just the kids getting excited because you have an objective view which does nt fit their mood du jour.

I actually want this game I have just built a demon PC to run it on so I want it as much anyone .
You aren't communicating directly with Scaff, you are posting on a public forum for all of us to read. Hence semantics are important so we can all understand what you mean. Your poor punctuation, sentence structure and cryptic phrasing make those semantics increasingly difficult to comprehend.
 
Fair enough, I will probably just go with the standard for now and see if the season pass is worth it after the first pack. :cheers:

On the topic of DLC, does SMS integrate DLC into single player (in other words will you get offers to drive DLC cars if you've purchased them)?
That's what I'm doing too, getting the "Day One Edition" for the Japanese pack for those Nissans, and waiting to see if the season pass is worth it.

Yes, DLC was integrated into singleplayer in PCARS1, with invitational events and contract offers for DLC cars (and events on DLC tracks). :cheers:
 
Yes, DLC was integrated into singleplayer in PCARS1, with invitational events and contract offers for DLC cars (and events on DLC tracks). :cheers:

Glad to hear that, it annoys me when developers release DLC that's not properly integrated into the game.
 
Fair enough, I will probably just go with the standard for now and see if the season pass is worth it after the first pack. :cheers:

On the topic of DLC, does SMS integrate DLC into single player (in other words will you get offers to drive DLC cars if you've purchased them)?

The season pass is worth it. You get 4 free cars by pre-ordering it. I don't want to overstate things but I think the DLC we have planned is truly awesome :) Come back here in a year and we'll all agree!

I admit this is confusing but if you preorder the season pass you get these cars for free. Not otherwise available:

  • Jaguar E-Type V12, Group 44 (1974) - beauty, speed, and an absolute motoring icon
  • Panoz Esperante GTR-1 (1998) - a ’90s GT stalwart
  • Audi V8 DTM (Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters) (1991) - a DTM legend with 460hp @ 9,500RPM
  • Opel Astra TCR (2016) – Opel’s latest 300hp Touring Car monster

Edit, I realise I hyphenated 'pre-ordering' and not 'preorder'. Answers on a postcard but it feels better to me :)
 
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I admit this is confusing but if you preorder the season pass you get these cars for free. Not otherwise available:
Are you sure the Motorsport Pack won't be available in the future, for buyers of the Season Pass?

Because this image seems to imply that:

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Do DLC cars appear in the grid for me to race against, even if I haven't purchased the DLC? Forza did that, and that always felt like the absolute best way to advertise the cars that I wanted to drive the most! It took a lot more for me to show restraint when the cars felt so close!
 
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