PS3 General Discussion

[cpp214]

Does anyone have any thoughts on the free GOW III E3 demo?
I just searched the PS3 forum and I honestly can't believe
no one has mentioned it yet.

I'm still picking my jaw up off the floor after playing it earlier.
That's the best looking game I've ever played on any platform, hands down.
Judging by the demo, this game is going to be epic.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

Does anyone have any thoughts on the free GOW III E3 demo?
I just searched the PS3 forum and I honestly can't believe
no one has mentioned it yet.

I'm still picking my jaw up off the floor after playing it earlier.
That's the best looking game I've ever played on any platform, hands down.
Judging by the demo, this game is going to be epic.

What's impressive is that is a very early build demo that was made several months ago, although perhaps they updated it with any changes that have been made since last year.

I never played GOW I & II, so several months ago I bought the "updated" GOW Collection, but I never found the time to play them.

For those that played the first two, do you think story wide, I would enjoy GOW III more if I played I & II before starting III?

 

[Northstar]

I tried the demo(never played GoW before apart from a couple minutes at my grandma's). It looked good but I don't like the style of game.



Note: Yes my grandma's 60+ year old husband plays GoW.

 

[cpp214]

What's impressive is that is a very early build demo that was made several months ago, although perhaps they updated it with any changes that have been made since last year.

I never played GOW I & II, so several months ago I bought the "updated" GOW Collection, but I never found the time to play them.

For those that played the first two, do you think story wide, I would enjoy GOW III more if I played I & II before starting III?

I think you would probably enjoy it a little more, but it certainly wouldn't be mandatory to have played the first two. I would highly recommend it though if you have the time and opportunity.
It's been a few years now since I played GOW II, but it and the original were both excellent. The game play itself can get a little repetitive, but these games are great at mixing things up by adding things like mind-bending puzzles, difficult and unique boss battles, new combat techniques/moves, etc. That was one thing I noticed about the demo--Kratos has some new and improved moves that help solidify his status as one of the biggest gaming bad***** of all time

 

[tyl0r_r]

What's impressive is that is a very early build demo that was made several months ago, although perhaps they updated it with any changes that have been made since last year.

I never played GOW I & II, so several months ago I bought the "updated" GOW Collection, but I never found the time to play them.

For those that played the first two, do you think story wide, I would enjoy GOW III more if I played I & II before starting III?

It is amazing. The way the demo ended was just awesome. I skipped Heavy Rain for now (it strikes me as the sort of game I'll see a lot of used copies of) in order to have enough time for GOW and FF13. Should be fun times.

 

[sems4arsenal]

So what do you guys think about "BLUR" the racing game ?

 

[slims]

What's impressive is that is a very early build demo that was made several months ago, although perhaps they updated it with any changes that have been made since last year.

I never played GOW I & II, so several months ago I bought the "updated" GOW Collection, but I never found the time to play them.

For those that played the first two, do you think story wide, I would enjoy GOW III more if I played I & II before starting III?

Well I guess it all comes down to how much focus you really put on the story in your games. If you're one who likes a good plot then I'd say you wouldn't enjoy it as much since the first games do tell a great story and you'll get to know all the events that have occurred and what motivates Kratos (i.e. what has him so pissed off ) and the Titans on their current path to destroy Olympus and the Gods.

Also the combat system has remained quite consistent since the first game. I noticed that quite a few of Kratos' basic combos from I and II were also in the demo. I figured it would be like this since GoW II gave you most of the moves from GoW I + more. So if you play I and II you'll have a good feel for the controls and combo system which always helps.

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

Quick question, it seems I have my issues from this thread https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=126031 solved *knock, knock* ... but, now I had troubles getting a NAT type, which I solved by forwarding the necessary ports on the router, however I did not assign a static IP adress... still I got NAT type 2 and can play online again...
now the question(s): should I make a static IP for the PS3 and why?
- also what do I do now if I want to play with my x360? I have only one LAN cable with the necessary length, can I just switch it, someone knows?

 

[Northstar]

You could try one of these.

Not sure how well they work though.

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

Oh, thanks. I will look into these. 👍

 

[hardvibes]

So what do you guys think about "BLUR" the racing game ?

I think it's stupid, but the kids will love it.

 

[Robin]

Hey I was wondering if someone could help me.

Im trying to connect my PS3 through a proxy server on my laptop. The PS3 goes into a router that my laptop is also connected to. I have setup internet connection sharing in windows and when I run the internet test on my PS3 it says successful for getting the ip address and also for checking the internet.

However it fails on PSN connection and when I try to sign in it just says you have been signed out and gives an error, I think it was 8002AD23. This only happens when I use a proxy.

What could I be doing wrong, should I disable the firewall on my laptop (virus heaven)?

I would really appreciate some help,

Robin

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

Well, did you try portforwarding?

I don't use a proxy, but that helped me with pretty much the same error(s)...


TCP

80
443
5223

UDP

3478
3479
3658

Plus it's recommended to give your PS3 a static IP.

Hope that helps. 👍

 

[Robin]

Well, did you try portforwarding?

I don't use a proxy, but that helped me with pretty much the same error(s)...


TCP

80
443
5223

UDP

3478
3479
3658

Plus it's recommended to give your PS3 a static IP.

Hope that helps. 👍

Thanks for the reply 👍, I'l give it a try tomorrow. This still means the PS3 will connect through the PC right? Sorry I dont know much about network stuff!

Robin.

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

No problem, I don't know how you have set it up, but basically you will need the PC to open the ports and give the PS3 a static IP.

 

[Drillah]

Hey I was wondering if someone could help me.

Im trying to connect my PS3 through a proxy server on my laptop. The PS3 goes into a router that my laptop is also connected to. I have setup internet connection sharing in windows and when I run the internet test on my PS3 it says successful for getting the ip address and also for checking the internet.

However it fails on PSN connection and when I try to sign in it just says you have been signed out and gives an error, I think it was 8002AD23. This only happens when I use a proxy.

What could I be doing wrong, should I disable the firewall on my laptop (virus heaven)?

I would really appreciate some help,

Robin

Sorry, I don't understand. If you have a router than why do you want to connect your PS3 through internet connection sharing on your PC?
Just connect it to the net through the router.
Like I said, maybe I misunderstand your post?

 

[Robin]

Well, did you try portforwarding?

I don't use a proxy, but that helped me with pretty much the same error(s)...


TCP

80
443
5223

UDP

3478
3479
3658

Plus it's recommended to give your PS3 a static IP.

Hope that helps. 👍

I gave it a go and unfortunately there was no change. On the connection test it succeeds on IP and internet connection but fails everything else. I seriously dont see why if I cant access the net on the PS3 I cant get into PSN, what more could it possibly need!?

Sorry, I don't understand. If you have a router than why do you want to connect your PS3 through internet connection sharing on your PC?
Just connect it to the net through the router.
Like I said, maybe I misunderstand your post?

No you didnt misunderstand, yes I can connect fine directly through the router and not use the proxy. Im doing this as a test because I will need my PS3 to work on a proxy soon because I will be in a place without a router (hardwired network).

Has anyone got any suggestions?, Im sure its something to do with windows or the router and not the PS3.

Robin.

 

[Drillah]

I'm not sure if the PS3 has these options in the menus; similar to the way you would allow internet explorer to access the net through a proxy server, you must specify the proxy server address. In internet explorer>tools>internet options>connections tab>lan settings, you'll see the information required to be entered in order to allow connection over lan through proxy.
Like I said though, i'm not sure if you can specify this information within the PS3's menus. I'm not at home so can't check. Good luck!

 

[Mad Matt]

Quick reply:

Your test seems a bit odd. You'd normally have two network cards in the laptop. One with access to the Internet and the other with access to the local network. Then you "share" the external card.

I don't know whether that is what upsetting the NAT from a Windows point of view.

Personally I haven't played with this on Windows for anything more than http. You could try squid on Linux, that worked very well for me.

PS. I assume you've checked that your using the right NAT on the PS3?

PPS. I marked this as a 'quick reply' as I haven't double checked what I've typed because I'm supposed to be working :-)

 

[Robin]

Its not that odd to use the PS3 through a proxy. Many do it using mobile 3G USB sticks and then plug the PS3 into the PC ethernet port with a crossover cable. Also some use it to download PSN demos on the PC and do all sort of sub legit stuff.

I just want to see if the PS3 can connect through the PC and not directly through the router. It really shouldnt be so hard to do but as usual with windows there probably a million things that could be wrong with the connection between the two, eventhough I can go on the net through a proxy on my PS3 just fine.

I don't understand what you mean by two network cards on the laptop, I only have one ethernet port and one active connection to the LAN.

Robin.

 

[Mad Matt]

Sorry I wasn't clear, and you've caught me at work again :-)

To take your first example: If you've got a USB 3G dongle, you've in effect got another network card. So the LAN card is your "internal network" and the USB 3G stick is your external network.

 

[Robin]

Sorry I wasn't clear, and you've caught me at work again :-)

To take your first example: If you've got a USB 3G dongle, you've in effect got another network card. So the LAN card is your "internal network" and the USB 3G stick is your external network.

I understand that but I dont have a 3G network card, I was just using it as an example. All I have is a router and a Laptop so I dont understand where the 'two' network cards are in my setup.

Robin

 

[Mad Matt]

That's the point :-)

Usually when you set-up Internet sharing you have two cards. Each card has a different address and runs on a different subnet. The NAT then works between the two. It could be that it isn't working very well for you because both devices are on the same network and subnet. The other thing that could be wrong is the port forwarding, but I think that's already been mentioned in an earlier post.

So what I'm saying is that your "test" setup may be giving you a problem that you wouldn't find with a real setup.

Does that make sense now?

 

[Robin]

I think I undestand what you saying now. One 'network card' is virtually setup by the proxy and the other is the real physical connection. If I get the internet on my PS3 currently then its got to be working in some way. Its just PSN that doesnt work. I guess I will have to try turning off firewalls of something, see if that helps.

Robin.

 

[Mad Matt]

If I read your post as an IT person, then no that's not quite right. However it sounds like you may have got the idea and it's just a matter of terminology.

I don't know if it would help, but here's a link to a technical definition: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_Nat_and_Proxy_Servers

 

[yeti]

I think what Matt is saying is that you could try wiring your PS3 to your laptop - and using Wifi to the router from the Laptop...

On your laptop - these are listed as 2 different connections on your laptop...
(i.e. using 2 different network "cards")

If you can get that working - then you might be able to take it from there and get wifi/wifi working...

Of course - if you're going to somewhere where there is no router - how are you going to get the internet on your laptop? With a wire? Would be easier just to buy a switch and 3 cables...

Ah - or are you trying to use Wifi for your laptop<->PS3 connection - and a wire for the internet?

C.

 

[Robin]

I'm going to be using a hardwired network... literally an ethernet port in the wall like you get in offices, universities etc.

Currently (at home) I only have a wired router which means I can't plug the PS3 directly into the laptop. Is there anyway to send the internet connection on using the laptops Wi-Fi to the PS3?

Its just really confusing that you cant simply connect a PS3 to PC through a router. I've seen it done using wired and wireless routers all the time on youtube etc but I guess mines stubborn.

Oh and thanks for the link Mad Matt, I'l try to understand it! Sorry im not so good with network stuff.

Robin.

 

[FoolKiller]

Its just really confusing that you cant simply connect a PS3 to PC through a router. I've seen it done using wired and wireless routers all the time on youtube etc but I guess mines stubborn.

As you noted, every PC is different. The only connecting I have done is media sharing, which is very different from what you are trying to do and what you are describing others doing.


As for your situation; I am sure that the admins on your new network have people hooking up game consoles all the time (unless you are doing it at work) and can direct you on how to set it up. My guess though is that it will just be something you put into the security settings on the PS3, and perhaps the admins will need your PS3's MAC address. Are you going to be using the router in the new setup? If so then there is a chance that once you get the router communicating properly then the PS3 setup will be similar to what it is now.

However it will work, I would bet money that your test now will have little to relation to what you will be doing and is mainly just going to be a learning exercise that primarily helps you to learn where to find the settings.


I may have missed it, but is this new setup going to be in a residence of some form, such as a dorm or apartment? If so then I am sure that the network admins will be the best to help you out here as they are used to it. If it is a workplace or something then you may want to check to see if the PS3 is even allowed to connect to PSN.

 

[jjaisli]

Well, I didn't want to start a new topic on this but couldn't find a relevant thread. And that alone kind of surprises me.

I've been trying to convince one of my friends to buy a PS3 and have been looking at Amazon.com from time to time to compare and see price fluctuations of the G27. And I was curious to see that in their 'recommended for you' column they had a PS3 slim/120GB listed for $369.95. So I clicked on it just to see why it was higher than the $299 suggested retail price. And I couldn't find a reason, other than to notice the PS3 for sale was not actually for sale from Amazon but through a 3rd party seller.

So one thing led to another and I started looking around and was shocked to see that Amazon (themselves), Best Buy, Walmart, J&R, etc and a slew of other big electronic retailers are ALL out of stock. In fact, just about EVERYBODY seems to be out of stock of both the stand alone PS3 slim 120 & 250. Those PS3s that are still for sale all seem to be special editions bundled with a game or extra piece of hardware. And those that still have these in stock are selling them far and above the normal going rate. This fact doesn't seem to be lost by shameless opportunists on eBay who are trying to capitalize on the situation and selling even used PS3s for more than the suggested retail price for a new one. Law of supply and demand I suppose.

A quick Google search and the resulting links shows that there's been a general shortage of PS3 since early January and it's expected to last until the late Spring. I only assume the release of Final Fantasy, Heavy Rain, GOWIII and a few otherbig name titles have made this problem worse in recent weeks. According to some of the articles, Sony was caught off guard by the increased demand for the Slim and higher than expected sales during the Christmas shopping season. By the time they are able to step up production and that production filters through to retailers, it could be May or June. There ARE still regular shipments of PS3s arriving but because of the huge back-log of orders and built up demand, most of them are sold the same day they arrive or already accounted for. While this seemed to initially be a North American problem, shortages of PS3 hardware are now popping up in Europe with several large retailers in the UK, France and Germany all reporting shortages or are out of stock completely.

I'm not in the market for a PS3 myself but have I just been out to lunch on this? Is everybody vaguely aware of this. And I just hope I don't have a problem with my OWN PS3 in the next month or two.

But my whole point, is that I just can't understand Sony. Now that the PS3 is finally at an entry price point where they can really compete with the Xbox...they don't have any PS3s to sell! Talk about poor forecasting.

 

[Blitz187]

^^^ I did know about this situation... I didnt know people were trying to capitalize on it and selling them far above the normal price... Thats just wrong... but as you say it must be a result of supply and demand...