PSN game sharing being reduced from 5 -> 2
- Thread starter tezster
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I'm just waiting to see the 🤬 that will happen with those of us that have triple monitor setups and DLC - will a user with triple monitors be able to drive his DLC cars?
Another batch of 🤬 from Sony. 👎
Another batch of 🤬 from Sony. 👎
- 6,009
- Austin, Texas
- D-Nitrate / GTP_DNitrate
I think they announced this for Japan as well, and I suspect the new policy will at some point be in place every where.
Frankly, like other exploited features, I'm surprised they didn't do this earlier considering the widespread exploit of this feature to get free games. Heck, there are even dedicated threads all over the internet where people are blatantly game sharing.
The third monitor +DLC set-up (while extremely rare) does raise an interesting question. Until it's an issue I guess we wont know for sure, but I suspect there will be a solution.
I believe this policy change is not retro-active, so it will only impact PSN games and DLC purchased after the policy change.
That said, besides a 3rd monitor + DLC set-up, even if you have more than two PS3s it isn't an issue - all you have to do is activate the account you want to use on the PS3 you want to use - such that you could still have five or even a dozen PS3 with the same account on them, but only two can be activated at the same time. I seriously doubt anyone would ever need to use the same account on three PS3 at the same time, and even if someone can come up with some scenario, I doubt its one most would even consider.
In a sense, people could still exploit this by letting people continue to game share... but this makes it less convenient to exploit the system as the account holder now must make sure they keep track of who they give their account info to and to make sure they deactivate the account when they are done playing - or else the account holder may risk being locked out of their own games and content... and may have a hard time explaining themselves to Sony when they ask to have their account deactivated on a system they don't own.
Personally this is a good move as it doesn't appear to impact honest consumers (we'll have to wait to see how this impacts 3-monitor systems), as they can easily activate and deactivate their own systems and thus could have the same account on dozens of PS3s if need be, but it makes it much harder for those exploiting the system to get free games.
- 6,009
- Austin, Texas
- D-Nitrate / GTP_DNitrate
I just checked the US PlayStation Support site, and the new policy applies to NA as well.
BTW: The title of this thread is likely the main reason for this policy change... although you would never think it based on the popular misconception and blatant use of this feature to get free games and DLC, this feature is NOT officially called the PSN Game Sharing feature... Game sharing is the exploit of this feature - which was in place for people who own multiple PS3s and for people to be able to go to a friend's house and play the games they purchased on their own PS3, but still be able to play them on someone else's PS3.
Like the ability to use a 3rd party OS, this feature has been brazenly exploited, and thus it's understandable why these features are either removed or modified to try and prevent these exploits.
For those that still believe game sharing is an authorized feature of the PS3 here is Sony's official response to that very question:
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- Buttcrack, CT
- CaptainAlbator
I'm always surprised at those who were so outraged about the PSN break in, would just hand over their password and expose their personal information in the process.
I wouldn't doubt it'll be long before gaming companies put ID numbers on disks and only allow for DLC to purchased for that specific disk. lose it, break it, tough titties or force you to pay a minor transfer fee.
DL games would be difficult though. Perhaps a similar idea but with the system ID.
But I know there will be a few that scream screw sony, but it probably comes from developers as well. If 3 of your mates share DLC with you for cod, thats $40 in income they're losing.
DL games would be difficult though. Perhaps a similar idea but with the system ID.
But I know there will be a few that scream screw sony, but it probably comes from developers as well. If 3 of your mates share DLC with you for cod, thats $40 in income they're losing.
- 8,452
- Rockay City
Only master PS3 needs DLC in GT5, not the two others.
BTW, I really don't understand why Sony has to do this for online content, when platforms like Steam allow you to install content anywhere (yet play on only one at a time). But I guess it's either this, or limit it to the account it was purchased on (like Steam).
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- Buttcrack, CT
- CaptainAlbator
It's because there's people who engage in something called "game sharing". Where they give their ID and password to someone, and they can use someone else's data and paid content on their PS3. The problem is that they also gain access to all your personal data, including credit card and bank information.
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- VanishinKowalski
All the fields with user's credit card info are automatically erased when doing so.
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- Buttcrack, CT
- CaptainAlbator
Regardless, everyone cursed out Sony when the break in happened, yet some of the very same people willingly hand over their password. Anyone else have a problem with that, or is it just me?
- 13,913
- Adelaide
- Neomone
Remember that for most DLC installing it to a PS3 activates it for all accounts on the machine.
My mate logs on to PSN on my machine, installs said DLC, and leaves. As long as he doesn't check the remember password box there's no danger at all because I never have access to his account. That, and he's my friend so we trust each other.
Just saying, that's how it happens.
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- alexlmx6 & GTP_AlexL
- alexlmx6
Thing is, if publishers just put complete games on discs and cut out this digital crap, these problems wouldn't exist. Have 13 PS3s in your house? No problem, pop the disc out and move it. Nobody is cheating anyone and legitimate customers are happy. I miss expansion packs, they kicked DLC to the curb.
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- Buttcrack, CT
- CaptainAlbator
I swear it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes. Stop thinking about it like a "gamer", and more like a human being who actually grasps the concept of irony.
People yelled and screamed and filed lawsuits, and swore up and down that they'd never trust Sony again with their information, because they were reckless with it, and yet they are perfectly comfortable just giving it away, AND they are now angry because they CAN'T give it away. Hello? Anybody home? And if you still don't understand, as the saying goes, you're part of the problem.
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- 6,356
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- DaveTheStalker
Did they actually go through with this nonsense? My son is worried which of our 3 PS3's he should install BF3 on.
Ugh
And then there is the GT5 DLC distribution method nightmare...
Ugh
And then there is the GT5 DLC distribution method nightmare...
- 6,009
- Austin, Texas
- D-Nitrate / GTP_DNitrate
Check the facts or even this thread for that matter. Not only is this not nonsense, as there is a pretty clear reason behind this change, but this also wont prevent your son from installing BF3 on three let alone dozens of PS3s.
This only means that some (not even all) downloaded games/content can only be used on two PS3s at the same time (as you can only use that content when the account that purchased it is active on that PS3), but you can activate any account on as many PS3's as you like, you just can't activate more than two at the same time.
So unless your son is in the habit of playing the same game at the same time on three or more PS3, this change will have no impact on you.
Besides, this is still far better than buying a game on a disc which is limited to only one user at a time, it can get lost or damaged, and if you lend it to a friend you not only have to send it to them, but you wont be able to use it while they are borrowing it. The only significant advantage to games on discs is the ability to sell them, and rent them.
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- neema_t
CaptainHarlock
I don't share my games so I don't really care about this, but there's a huge, huge difference between Sony 'losing' every single PSN user's details and some gamers sharing their accounts with their friends who they know and trust.
Put it this way, I wouldn't want to have my car stolen, but if it was I'd be up in arms if the insurance company didn't cover it. At the same time I could choose to share it with a friend and if they crash it while uninsured, it's my problem (both financially and legally) and I would have to accept that. I don't see how this is looking at it as a 'gamer', this is just applying logic.
- 6,009
- Austin, Texas
- D-Nitrate / GTP_DNitrate
And while that has always been a direct violation of the Terms of Service, even with this change, technically you still can share games with family, friends, even strangers.
Only now, if you are going to share with more than one person, it's slightly less convenient... but it's still a violation of the Terms of Service, and could result in Sony not just banning, but even deleting your PSN account and thus all the games and DLC you bought from that account. So do it at your own risk.
- 6,009
- Austin, Texas
- D-Nitrate / GTP_DNitrate
I'm not sure what you mean by that, but Sony not only knows if your account has been added to more than one PS3, but they also know where all of those PS3's are located based on their IP addresses each time those PS3's log into the PSN.
It would be challenging trying to convince Sony that you owned multiple PS3, especially when they are not in the same house, unless you can provide proof you own all of those PS3s.
At least in the past Sony has chosen to look the other way in regards to game sharing, but with this new policy, perhaps they realized too many people were exploiting the feature, and may now be considering warning or even banning accounts who are shown to be game sharing.
In the end, they may also decide to follow the same restrictions as other companies, and that is to only allow the account that purchased the content to use it, and only on one console at a time.
- 6,356
- Michigan
- DaveTheStalker
Well, my big fat shiny black box (Sony replacement for my original big fat shiny black box) is suffering from YLOD Syndrome. If the money is available, I'm going to buy a Slim. Then some time down the road, I'll either fix my fat one or pay to have it fixed properly with a warranty and retain my 500GB worth of data. For now, I'm enjoying the living room (aka my kids') Slim and it's benefits. If you're keeping count, that would be THREE PlayStation 3's under one roof.
And then there is my adult son who is a big boy, has his own job, and pays his own bills. When he got his PS3, he lived under our roof. So that is 4 PS3's in our immediate family.
Do you see why I'm pissed off and kinda want to tell gaming to go suck my big toe?
Oh and Sony, with their infinite wisdom, can't even figure out how to allow an adult sub account to become a master account!
Eventually this big huge bubble the gaming industry keeps inflating will burst. People (normal people not hard core buy everything that comes out "gamers") will have to decide to fill their gas tank or buy an over priced game.
I can't wait for this behemoth to blow up.
And then there is my adult son who is a big boy, has his own job, and pays his own bills. When he got his PS3, he lived under our roof. So that is 4 PS3's in our immediate family.
Do you see why I'm pissed off and kinda want to tell gaming to go suck my big toe?
Oh and Sony, with their infinite wisdom, can't even figure out how to allow an adult sub account to become a master account!
Eventually this big huge bubble the gaming industry keeps inflating will burst. People (normal people not hard core buy everything that comes out "gamers") will have to decide to fill their gas tank or buy an over priced game.
I can't wait for this behemoth to blow up.
- 6,009
- Austin, Texas
- D-Nitrate / GTP_DNitrate
I think something is getting lost in translation, but based on what you've said, you can still do that.
No, because this policy change wont prevent you from doing what you were doing or wanted to do in the examples you gave earlier and now. The only difference is you can only activate an account on two systems at the same time, but in no way does this prevent you from activating and deactivating the same account on dozens of PS3s.
- 6,356
- Michigan
- DaveTheStalker
Digital-Nitrate
We tried this when my son had his PS3 over here a month or so ago. After we deactivated his (#3) and reactivated (#2), his (well my) DLC from the Collectors Edition (Chromeline cars) are no longer usable! Not only that ALL DLC from PSN games to map packs to Rock Band Import keys & Rock Band and Guitar Hero songs to LBP costume packs prior to this colossal screw up no longer works on his PS3!
Trust me, if you had 3 PS3's under your roof, you would be pissed off too. Several of these fracking games we have bought 3 times!!! Thanks Sony for rewarding your loyal consumer base.
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- Leroy_SHANKTON
well my theory for this change was so that sony can make more money
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