PURE | Formula GT Spot Race - August 17th - WINNER: IMMORTALPILOT
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To be honest, I've been requesting the actual number, since I use CV and I have no way to accurately calculate it, unless someone used a copy of the game that uses HP. However, when I used an online calculator, it did say it was 748hp, so it must be right. Thanks Will 👍
And I'll be counting on you too then, MSTER232!
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- France
Yeah, the game shows 748hp.
But you can't check 748hp on the lobby's settings, the closest that u can check is 754hp iirc.
but there's an other parameter that we have to consider: if we are 80.1%, we can stay in the rules with 863pp. At 80.2%, it's 864pp.
Conclusion: We can't definitely check the correct hp of this car but we are saved with the pp checks since we could only have a 0.1% of error. 👍
Tip: to view hp and not cv on your game, just change the language of your PS3 system to English
I'm french and we use cv too. But since i race on gtplanet, i only use hp
But you can't check 748hp on the lobby's settings, the closest that u can check is 754hp iirc.
but there's an other parameter that we have to consider: if we are 80.1%, we can stay in the rules with 863pp. At 80.2%, it's 864pp.
Conclusion: We can't definitely check the correct hp of this car but we are saved with the pp checks since we could only have a 0.1% of error. 👍
Tip: to view hp and not cv on your game, just change the language of your PS3 system to English
I'm french and we use cv too. But since i race on gtplanet, i only use hp
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- TRL_IMMORTAL
Why we dont say we say we drive 748hp without PP system.
You only put 748bhp in the lobby settings its much easier.
You only put 748bhp in the lobby settings its much easier.
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Cause hp only goes 10 by 10 on the lobby settings. We can't set at 748hp
Plus, the pp check is also here to minimize the risks of a maximum downforce.
And...we are PURE, we put all chances on our side to avoid cheats and this is why we do multiple checks on our series
.We know that there will always be a way to cheat in GT5, but with PURE, there are less way and we are very experienced to catch cheaters.
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- TRL_IMMORTAL
Cause hp only goes 10 by 10 on the lobby settings. We can't set at 748hp
Plus, the pp check is also here to minimize the risks of a maximum downforce.
And...we are PURE, we put all chances on our side to avoid cheats and this is why we do multiple checks on our series
We know that there will always be a way to cheat in GT5, but with PURE, there are less way and we are very experienced to catch cheaters.
You have try a FGT car car with low downforce?
Its terrible
try it you see it then.
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He means people could cheat the PP system by lowering Df and raising power etc.. But the way we have it no one can .
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- GV27-
Thanks for the heads up, Will. So helpful 👍 So if I understand this correctly, with the current check system I explained, there is "only" that 0.1% of possible mistake, right? If that is the case, I might as well set the regulations to 80.1% and eliminate this problem 
I'm positive that with the triple checking system, nobody would be tempted to cheat. Especially on a spot race, where the main thing is basically the fun you have on the individual race, it's pointless, right?
I decided not to run maximum downforce some time ago because that's kind of typical, and I wanted to add a certain "game", which is trying to find the best balance between front and rear aerodynamics. This may be a spot race with spec cars (all the cars are the same after all) but I do want that "High tech" feeling F1 gets, with the whole setting stuff.
IMMORTAL, I've been driving the car with the 863PP and the right power and weight, and I can tell you that you do get used to it. I'm not that experienced with these cars, since I've never used them competitively, but if I can run a few laps without making huge mistakes, I'm sure you can as well!
And also, I like the idea of having to back off a little during races. Maybe Driver A decides to play it safe, and Driver B takes risks. Driver B is able to go faster because of the risks he takes, and he's ahead, but he may make a mistake, and the driver who plays it safe is able to catch him... This way, we are "forced" to think while driving, and not charge forward like a madman.
(And exactly, Paul's right. That's why I went through the "trouble" of setting the triple-way system. It's a bit tedious but will work pefectly!)
I'm positive that with the triple checking system, nobody would be tempted to cheat. Especially on a spot race, where the main thing is basically the fun you have on the individual race, it's pointless, right?
I decided not to run maximum downforce some time ago because that's kind of typical, and I wanted to add a certain "game", which is trying to find the best balance between front and rear aerodynamics. This may be a spot race with spec cars (all the cars are the same after all) but I do want that "High tech" feeling F1 gets, with the whole setting stuff.
IMMORTAL, I've been driving the car with the 863PP and the right power and weight, and I can tell you that you do get used to it. I'm not that experienced with these cars, since I've never used them competitively, but if I can run a few laps without making huge mistakes, I'm sure you can as well!
And also, I like the idea of having to back off a little during races. Maybe Driver A decides to play it safe, and Driver B takes risks. Driver B is able to go faster because of the risks he takes, and he's ahead, but he may make a mistake, and the driver who plays it safe is able to catch him... This way, we are "forced" to think while driving, and not charge forward like a madman.
(And exactly, Paul's right. That's why I went through the "trouble" of setting the triple-way system. It's a bit tedious but will work pefectly!)
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Cause hp only goes 10 by 10 on the lobby settings. We can't set at 748hp
Plus, the pp check is also here to minimize the risks of a maximum downforce.
And...we are PURE, we put all chances on our side to avoid cheats and this is why we do multiple checks on our series
We know that there will always be a way to cheat in GT5, but with PURE, there are less way and we are very experienced to catch cheaters.
You have try a FGT car car with low downforce?
Its terrible
You said "a FGT car with low downforce is terrible"
So if we check only hp and weight, drivers will be free to up their downforce (it'll be less terrible to drive then). But we don't want that. We want drivers reduce their downforce to a maximum of 863pp.
Understand? (Sorry if i bad explain
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- GTP_PaulMac/paulmac2k9
Your good Litchi 👍.
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- WrecklessAbandon
To regulate these specs properly, you'll need to do a "minimum" and "maximum" HP and Weight check, along with PP.
To prevent a driver from adding weight or running reduced power to increase the aero, which would likely reduce lap times to an extent.
I'm going to try the car out at spec and see how I like it. Just keep the above in mind.
To prevent a driver from adding weight or running reduced power to increase the aero, which would likely reduce lap times to an extent.
I'm going to try the car out at spec and see how I like it. Just keep the above in mind.
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- GV27-
Actually, Dom, if you check the way it's supposed to be checked, I'm checking different "stages" of HP and weight, as well as max.PP. So it should not be a problem.
Hopefully you'll like it!
MSTER232, it was decided to delay the race (and qualifying, of course) a little bit so that more people can take part on this. Dates are: 10th August (Final Qualifying Session), 17th August (Race)
Hopefully you'll like it!
MSTER232, it was decided to delay the race (and qualifying, of course) a little bit so that more people can take part on this. Dates are: 10th August (Final Qualifying Session), 17th August (Race)
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- TRL_IMMORTAL
Can you open today a practise lobby m8?
Then i join i must also see the specs then i know it 100%.
Then i join i must also see the specs then i know it 100%.
- 3,754
- Germany
- TRL_IMMORTAL
Its on the OP but in Germany we have KW and when iam in the lobby can i can see the correct specs.
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- France
If you set your Power Limiter to 80%, you'll be in the correct specs. Whatever if its cv, hp or kw. It's 80% for everyone
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- GTP_PaulMac/paulmac2k9
I can't make the qualifing date GV so just put me last for the race, which I can make .
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- GV27-
I fear Qualifying will be way too small! 
but I'm counting on you for the race, don't worry.
👍
In any case, and only exceptionally since this is a Spot Race, those who can't make the qualifying can submit a qualifying time set with the rules of pre-qualifying. They will be put at the back anyway, but the starting order of those who can't make qualifying will be decided by those times. (I know at least Paul and Will should be here for the race but not qualifying).
but I'm counting on you for the race, don't worry.👍
In any case, and only exceptionally since this is a Spot Race, those who can't make the qualifying can submit a qualifying time set with the rules of pre-qualifying. They will be put at the back anyway, but the starting order of those who can't make qualifying will be decided by those times. (I know at least Paul and Will should be here for the race but not qualifying).
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- joshua1994
Will be there. Gonna die with my little pad though..
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- MSTER232
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I fear Qualifying will be way too small!
👍
In any case, and only exceptionally since this is a Spot Race, those who can't make the qualifying can submit a qualifying time set with the rules of pre-qualifying. They will be put at the back anyway, but the starting order of those who can't make qualifying will be decided by those times. (I know at least Paul and Will should be here for the race but not qualifying).
GV, I'm so sorry that I have to sign off for this race because my wheel broke yesterday, and the car is uncontrollable with a DS3.
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- GV27-
We have a new flyer on the OP. Check it out! Great stuff by Green 👍
By the way, I would like to point out that it is important we can have at least 12 or 13 drivers on qualifying day and in a perfect world, 16 on race day. This way we can check out whether the regulations actually work smoothly.
There's a lot of surprises and things stored for the future (oops, my mouth slipped) but the on-track action is the only part that should actually be tested beforehand!
By the way, I would like to point out that it is important we can have at least 12 or 13 drivers on qualifying day and in a perfect world, 16 on race day. This way we can check out whether the regulations actually work smoothly.
There's a lot of surprises and things stored for the future (oops, my mouth slipped) but the on-track action is the only part that should actually be tested beforehand!
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