PURE | JGTS2-Congratulations to champions tony1311 and team Xanavi Z!
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CodeRedR51
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Wardez = 2:15.183 CLEAN
Sorry it took so long, tweaking my new toy for the Touge Showdown 200 class.
Sorry it took so long, tweaking my new toy for the Touge Showdown 200 class.
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- WilliamsJIM_Adam
Like every track this season.
And the Z is slow, and the Denso/Petronas are junk.
I found the GT-R and HSV fastest at Fuji, followed by the Lexus. Laguna the lexus fastest, followed by the GT-R and HSV. Le Sarthe, foujnd the GT-R fastest, with the HSV and Lexus behind. Really equal and all within 2-3 tenths. And yeah I've always found the Z slower, but that's not shared by the majority.
I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, I've heard the same complaints about the same cars in every GT500 series I've been in to date.
I never heard anyone complain about the GTR in my life until the HSV came out either.
I've never had reason to complain since I found them all equal. Prior to JGTS 2, I always found the Lexus a tad faster like you. It's now all of a sudden that the HSV is too good because the HSV was made faster (extra 800 rpm) and adapted to the 2.09 changes better. I'm able to run more aero on the front that before. Monza I found the HSV slightly quicker, Nurb I found the HSV quickest by at least half a second over the GT-R.
Then again I know some people thought the HSV might be too slow pre 2.09 so it might be alright. These are only my findings. I don't see why people have to be uptight about it when someone even remotely suggests that one car is faster than another.
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- johnkiller2
Before 2.09 I found the cars very similar at our specs. I found the GTR a bit easier to achieve good lap times and as I don't pracitce that much any longer I picked the GTR for that reason.
With 2.09 it changed and everytime I compared the HSV and GTR (Suzuka, Monza, SPA), the HSV is about 0.5 sec faster. When I did some practice at SPA having real difficulty to get into the 2.14 with the GTR I then tried the HSV and managed a 2.14 almost instantly. Dave (Twisted) joined the room and I asked him to try the HSV. His previous PB with the GTR was a 2.16.2xx, and within two attemps he managed a 2.15.7 using stock setup.
I think the reason for this change is that with 2.09 its much harder to get to a well balanced car. Tuning is much more muted, and ridehight is more or less turned off. With our spec, the HSV has the andvantage of having the possibility to play with the downforce which is a very powerful set-up tool whihc makes ti unique and if not faster at least much easier to find a fast set-up for each track.
Not complaining, just stating the facts I found.
With 2.09 it changed and everytime I compared the HSV and GTR (Suzuka, Monza, SPA), the HSV is about 0.5 sec faster. When I did some practice at SPA having real difficulty to get into the 2.14 with the GTR I then tried the HSV and managed a 2.14 almost instantly. Dave (Twisted) joined the room and I asked him to try the HSV. His previous PB with the GTR was a 2.16.2xx, and within two attemps he managed a 2.15.7 using stock setup.
I think the reason for this change is that with 2.09 its much harder to get to a well balanced car. Tuning is much more muted, and ridehight is more or less turned off. With our spec, the HSV has the andvantage of having the possibility to play with the downforce which is a very powerful set-up tool whihc makes ti unique and if not faster at least much easier to find a fast set-up for each track.
Not complaining, just stating the facts I found.
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snowgt:
lap1 | 2:16.404 || clean
lap2 | 2:16.720 || clean
basse-101 (interrupted by disconnect)
lap1 | 2:16.149 || dirty
lap2 | 2:15.096 || dirty (small off into eau rouge)
tony1311 ... 2:13.9 in practice O_O
lap1 | 2:14.490 || clean
lap2 | 2:14.164 || clean (verified)
PureGT_Kevin
lap1 | 2:44.957 || clean
lap2 | crash
me (watched by Simon)
lap1 | 2:15.289 || clean (verified)
lap2 | dirty so I aborted
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Simon and Paginas have the room now
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7836609#post7836609
lap1 | 2:16.404 || clean
lap2 | 2:16.720 || clean
basse-101 (interrupted by disconnect)
lap1 | 2:16.149 || dirty
lap2 | 2:15.096 || dirty (small off into eau rouge)
tony1311 ... 2:13.9 in practice O_O
lap1 | 2:14.490 || clean
lap2 | 2:14.164 || clean (verified)
PureGT_Kevin
lap1 | 2:44.957 || clean
lap2 | crash
me (watched by Simon)
lap1 | 2:15.289 || clean (verified)
lap2 | dirty so I aborted
==============================================
Simon and Paginas have the room now
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7836609#post7836609
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- WrecklessAbandon
To be clear, I wasn't bitching at or about anyone.
Just pointing out that a lot of people make the same complaints about the same cars, and they can't be too bad with the level of success they've each reached at times.
Personally, I think the fact we have such a hard time discerning exact differences and can't all agree what's fastest where, tells the tale.
At Monza I jumped through cars and the GT-R held my PB over the HSV until the race. Much like you guys jumped into HSV's and turned quicker laps, I jumped in the GT-R and did the same.
The other day Nige ran a quick lap in the HSV after only a few, as Adam did at Nurb F.
So with a PB of 14.5 in my HSV, I popped the GT-R in and pushed play. 2:14.6 on my 3rd lap.
Sounds to me, like we're all able to jump into other cars and run fast laps.
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Isn't the HSV really easy to drive? If so it really should never have any lap time advantage as over a race it's stable ways will allow it to shine.
Just opinion. I'm cool with cars where they are.
Just opinion. I'm cool with cars where they are.
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- Wardez
- Wardez
That was the idea behind its slight pre-2.09 lack of pace that we had it at. Now it's faster, not by a lot, and not enough to warrant a change. I think it's cool, like a rule change in a series where one car clearly benefits and the rest of us have to deal with it.
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- twistedfirework
I don't think I can make the race tomorrow. It's my granddaughters 1st birthday.
How old does that make me feel,lol.
If anything changes I will add myself to the back of the grid. Unlikely though.
How old does that make me feel,lol.
If anything changes I will add myself to the back of the grid. Unlikely though.
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- joshua1994
Very doubtful on racing again tomorrow. Going out again tonight and will just want to chill watching the F1 tomorrow, also haven't quali'd yet so its pointless.
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CodeRedR51
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Wow, look at the Honda's go.
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Good time for your debut Ant 
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- unrealanthony
Good time for your debut Ant
Thanks but, I am not happy with the car, with the setup, I have to correct something because I am losing too much at the first sector!
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- GTP_ealirendur
PhaedrusSocrates:
2:15.678 (clean)
👍
GTP_JTV:
2:16.668 (dirty)
tpe-rus:
2:15.192 (clean)
(Watched by WiiFreak)
2:15.678 (clean)
👍
GTP_JTV:
2:16.668 (dirty)
tpe-rus:
2:15.192 (clean)
(Watched by WiiFreak)
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- Wardez
- Wardez
lower rear dowforce by ten or more.
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- PURE_DrWatson
