PURE | JGTS2-Congratulations to champions tony1311 and team Xanavi Z!
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Odd, Denso is the only all American team. Nice to see so many nationalities converge into one series. I hope we have a great season, Dr_Watson and gtpanoz. 👍
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On the nationalities front, I'm surprised nobody has spotted anything strange about mine
I spotted your (SG15's as well) Catalan flag in a second. 👍
FCB
Yeah, I know, keep politics and sports separated, but it's hard in EU. Pretty much all teams have herritage from either this or that..Well Steve, it was like 10 CALSONIC among the first choices..
We made a new team to try and squeez in as many as possible..
What to do?
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You also, my goal is run competitive during the season and hope I to get a few good finishes.
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I'll test the Supra again tonight and let you know. Sadly, I only have a black/red GTR
, but it has been good enough for a 1'36.1 at Fuji, just not sure about tyre wear.
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R1600Turbo
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Yeah, I'll be on about 6:45, maybe 6:30.
I'm going to make an HSV low aero/Fuji tune tonight, maybe something else if I have the energy.
Those might be a bit loose in that tight left hander mid-lap at Fuji, just level the ride height out a bit until it's good.
I'm going to make an HSV low aero/Fuji tune tonight, maybe something else if I have the energy.
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I think the tune I got for the Z from Wardez was one of those. Rocked for Indy. 👍
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Perhaps someone who has a Calsonic isn't as attached?I spotted your (SG15's as well) Catalan flag in a second. 👍
FCB
Well Steve, it was like 10 CALSONIC among the first choices..
We made a new team to try and squeez in as many as possible..
What to do?
Yeah Suzuka, Indy, Monza, Motegi, Sarthe and maybe GP/F it should be good on.
Probably loose at Laguna and Spa, and I'm guessing one/two turns of Fuji.
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JGTC 2 Qualifying and Practice Session- OPEN
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No offence, but its' the LSD settings that's causing problems, if you reverse the initial and acc settings then that'll help reduce the outside wheel spin.
I tried the tune for the Bandai and the outside wheel easily spun first.
I use 20 /10 and this kept both driven wheels more in sync. With the setup for the Bandai I'm using, I can "nail" 2nd gear and there's no individual wheel spinning at the same rate as 8/16..
When one wheel spins, or is driven more, it can mean more tyre wear, and especially if the outside wheel - snap oversteer.
By having them in sync, there's less wear and when it snaps it's alot more progressive and easily kept in check - saving tyres and time..
Try your setup and "nail it" in 2nd, then try the same with this and feel the difference.
* * CHASSIS RIGIDITY must be used on car * *
Suspenson
-5 / -5
16.6 / 15.5
7 / 5
7 / 5
3 / 4
1.7 / 1/4
+0.10 / -0.02
LSD
20
10
5
Brakes
4 / 5 or 6
Gearbox
Start with default
1st + 2nd gear all way to left
6th all way to right
adjust 3/4/5th to be evenly spaced out
ADJUSTMENTS
It's possible to run toe:
-0.15 / +0.02
This might be better for race, whereas +0.10 / -0.02 might be better for qualifying.
Depends on tyre wear and feel.
If car feels understeer-y and front tyre wear occurs first - use +0.10 / -0.02
If car feel too loose and rear tyre go way quicker than fronts - use -0.15 / +0.02
Aero:
fr 35 / rr 50 or 55
Any other SC430 that has same max / min spring settings can use this too.
Try different toe settings on long run to see which gives better tyre wear.
Everyone has their own driving style and settings - if anyone want help tweaking this to your specfications please get in touch.
This setup is very easy on the tyres, it's not a 100% "fast laptime" setup. It'll take a few laps before tyres are fully warm and even, then the car will stat to come alive.
It'll offer good balance and stability and consistent laptimes, even when tyres start to wear. Tyre wear should be fairly even, if it's not, try switching to other toe setting.
EDIT:
Just checked the PETRONAS and DENSO SC430's - this should be good to go on them too.. All SC430s share same weight distribution and spring travel.
Don't just do 2/3 laps though, you won't feel or see the benefits, after 20/30 laps it'll be alot more obvious..
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Well, changing the lsd requires changing the entire suspension, which I set without lsd interference.
I've built a couple high lsd tunes with the suspension set around that, I just don't prefer them as much.
We're pretty split here I believe, between guys running low, medium, and high lsd setups.
I've built a couple high lsd tunes with the suspension set around that, I just don't prefer them as much.
We're pretty split here I believe, between guys running low, medium, and high lsd setups.
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Hi Mule, I like that Supra. To be honest. I think you would be very pleased with the car once you got a tune on the car you was comfortable with.
On that note. Try this out. I ran 37.2 on my second lap with it and plenty left in it.
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Joshua1994 - Qualifying - 1:36.859 Clean
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Joshua1994 qually
1:36.859 clean
Stewards;
Tony, OwensRacing and twistedfirework
1:36.859 clean
Stewards;
Tony, OwensRacing and twistedfirework
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New idea for qualifying. One or two stewards leave practice room. Open a two or three man room. No randoms. No crappy text box ruining your runs!
little hassle but I'll do it for people as I want it done for me.
little hassle but I'll do it for people as I want it done for me.
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No worries...
I see what you're saying, but the suspensions shouldn't need much, if any adjustment as the main componants should be "doing the main job" by themselves and the diff is just the icing on the cake.
All RWD cars should spin inside (driven) wheel first, guys like Akira and RJ have written about this, FWD it should be the outside driven wheel. It does make a difference.
I know the diff can have major impact on how a car feels, but this is the same with the suspension. The difference is that the diff can sort out things like a single wheel spinning alot more effectively, or with less side affects, than the suspension.
There are situations when the suspension can be the cause of a single tyre going 'red' - i.e. way too soft or even hard suspension. Other times it could be the diff causing tyre to go red.
Trying to resolve a traction issue like this with suspension changes will hurt the car more than doing so with the diff i.e. ride height difference (rear higher than front) will sort out traction, but can result in potential understeer at the front. It still won't cure the problem of one wheel getting more power than the other, it just 'hides' it, lurking there waiting to reappear - especially likely at low tyre level.
The initial can be run at any level, but the acc must always be at the sweet spot where the driven wheels work in conjunction with each other, otherwise, this runs the risk of causing some kind of issue, whether it be handling or tyre wear.
The "feel" of the car is always individual to the driver, the acc sweet spot isn't. It'll always be the same for everyone - outside wheel spins then reduce acc, inside spins then increase acc. Keep adjusting until you find the sweet spot.
Just test by going on track waiting for tyres to warm up and nailing throttle in 2nd, see which wheel spins first, then adjust.
But I honestly don't want to get in an arguement or anything like that, just wanted to try and help..
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Not sure if both lap times are needed but...
Adventuruss: 1:37.883 clean / 1:37.478 clean
R1600Turbo: 1:37.241 clean / 1:37.144 dirty (went too wide exiting T1)
Stewards: outlaw4rc and GTP_Welsh-Bain
Bad break for Jason (RT). Had someone (believe it was a random) come in and posted something as he began his second flier. We may have to follow the suggestion of two-three person rooms, so we don't have something like that happening again.
Adventuruss: 1:37.883 clean / 1:37.478 clean
R1600Turbo: 1:37.241 clean / 1:37.144 dirty (went too wide exiting T1)
Stewards: outlaw4rc and GTP_Welsh-Bain
Bad break for Jason (RT). Had someone (believe it was a random) come in and posted something as he began his second flier. We may have to follow the suggestion of two-three person rooms, so we don't have something like that happening again.
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You can post up qualifying times herenow, site's up, thanks Tim!
http://pure.gate19.net/index.php?page=series&sid=11&sub=race&rid=1
http://pure.gate19.net/index.php?page=series&sid=11&sub=race&rid=1
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Btw,
you'll notice a new tab called, "practice," and it'san idea grabbed from 3D3. It's for anyone to enter their fastest practice time, along with notes and other parameters enterable as options.
It makes keeping track of target times a lot easier and adds a cool new dimension to what's usually a rather solitory process.
We're also looking to add a section for suggested driver tunes to be submitted by anyone. But for now we're going to link up a few of the more fundamental tunes floating around under each listed car spec. In the mini-site.
you'll notice a new tab called, "practice," and it'san idea grabbed from 3D3. It's for anyone to enter their fastest practice time, along with notes and other parameters enterable as options.
It makes keeping track of target times a lot easier and adds a cool new dimension to what's usually a rather solitory process.
We're also looking to add a section for suggested driver tunes to be submitted by anyone. But for now we're going to link up a few of the more fundamental tunes floating around under each listed car spec. In the mini-site.
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At least with you guys posting times, I'll have a target/goal. I practiced last week at Fuji and ran some high 38's...so I've got some work to do. Thanks to CSL for the tuning advice!
Fyi, I noticed on the PURE site that the Petronas and DENSO SC430's are labeled 2006...but they're 2008's. It doesn't matter though...just noticed it.
Something else I may have missed is why nissman isn't appearing on the PURE site in our Petronas team. Is he not registered?
Fyi, I noticed on the PURE site that the Petronas and DENSO SC430's are labeled 2006...but they're 2008's. It doesn't matter though...just noticed it.
Something else I may have missed is why nissman isn't appearing on the PURE site in our Petronas team. Is he not registered?
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I ran Q today. Just need someone to post my slow time. 
