Pushrod Supercar...I love it.

[Driftster]

wow..are people starting to question his job?

that's pretty sad.

 

[Young_Warrior]

skicrush you sure are adamant about this car.

 

[Driftster]

I've noticed that this car has been drawing some weird people out of the woodwork..

Like people that are living/dieing by this car.

If you say anything contradictory to their theory that this car is the greatest thing ever produced with wheels, they will debate it into the ground untill they've pulvarized you with forum links and speculations....no matter the credibility......

 

[Young_Warrior]

Yes its as if we are criticising their next of kin.

 

[Driftster]

every time I see "c6 z06" mentioned on ANY forum I participate in..
There is an arguement.

There's no arguments about the SRT-10 coupe....

No arguements about the Nismo Z tune..

No arguements about the Porsche Cayman..

but the z06........"The Ls7's alright, but it's compression is kinda high"
Zo6Fanboy: "YOU'RE Such a n00b, you know nothing, chevy rules the world and the Ls7 = C6R which means z06 = c6r.....Z06 = can win lemans"

 

[McLaren'sAngel]

every time I see "c6 z06" mentioned on ANY forum I participate in..
There is an arguement.

There's no arguments about the SRT-10 coupe....

No arguements about the Nismo Z tune..

No arguements about the Porsche Cayman..

but the z06........"The Ls7's alright, but it's compression is kinda high"
Zo6Fanboy: "YOU'RE Such a n00b, you know nothing, chevy rules the world and the Ls7 = C6R which means z06 = c6r.....Z06 = can win lemans"

Hiya! Meow! (='.'=)

To me, that sounds like a good thing. 👍 It really show how much attention the C6 Z06 is getting. Cars like you mention above are probably ones that are "one time" talked and then out of the door.

"Nice car! I Like it!" THREAD IS DONE. That is all you probably get from cars like that. Just come and go.

This C6 Z06 on the other hand is a car that will keep on coming over to people's mind about its capability to compete with cars from within and to 2-3 times its price. This car have a hot price for the performance you get from it right out of the factory. This simply isn't "just another car" like those common civics out there due to the amount of HP it have.

You think about it for a while...A 65K+ 500HP street legal car with the capability to smash nearly everything on the street and it comes in STOCK form.

And one last thing...a 65K+ car with the capability to run with the exotics is a very good deal. The Z06 name will always do that everytime a new one comes out and it isnt going to die as long as their our fans for it. 👍

Oh and Drifster, you hate this car do you?

 

[Driftster]

...I think it's a terrible thing...Because at the end of the day, no matter how fast it is...

It's stilla chevrolet Corvette...

I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but people boasting about it being the greatest car ever is rediculous...

It's "cheap"...
IN THE STATES...hooray for it..

it's not "cheap" anywhere else, so ther goes that idea out the window.

and we're not speaking about the car, we were speaking about the weirdo's the car has drawn out who think this car is god on wheels, when it quite obviously is not considering it only managed to beat a 380HP porsche weighting a mere 200lbs less, by .1 seconds over 13 Miles..


It's a great car, yeah...
Best?
Far from it.

Hell if I could afford 65k, i'm sure i could afford 80k...

And that would get me the arguably fastest car in the world...

But that's not in question.

 

[Young_Warrior]

I have to agree with driftster on this one. Americans will love it and hype it up because its american and therefore that is where the arguments start to arise. Good if your american but there are other cars that do what the z06 does but a little bit better.

 

[Dave A]

At the end of the day it depends where your from, in the US the Z06 is probably the best performace in a usable day to day car for the cash, over here it's probably not. I can see where your coming from but Americans only hype about Vettes as much as I hype about TVR's in general. It's all about location for more than one reason, Americas great bargain is Britains bit pricey isn't it and vice versa.

 

[Onikaze]

You know the main thing that gets me about the Z06?

The sound, the look, the stance.

The fact that it is stupidly fast is a cool bonus...but what gets my blood pumping is hearing it clear it's throat and roar.

The Carrera GT does the same thing to my blood.

I love the hell out of Porsches, I wish we had a 996 GT3 to play with in GT4.

I also love the hell out of Vettes, I wish we had a C6, even just the base model, in GT4.


Naturally a car that is homegrown and affordable to some fairly average shmuck over here is going to be loved, same as it is over there, you guys love TVRs, it fills more or less the same niche in the UK that the Vette does over here.


I just don't get the "but it's still just a Corvette" comments...duh...of course it is still just a Corvette...that's why it's cool, did you miss the memo?

 

[Young_Warrior]

Because the people who make the corvette also sell the matiz.

 

[Onikaze]

So, the people who make the Carrera GT sell the Cayenne.

TVR on the other hand builds nothing but sports cars, so they damn well better be good at it.

How do the crappy little cars that Chevy has sold make the Corvette any less cool?

I don't get that.

So I should hate on BMW's because of Land Rovers being hideous monstrosities?

Oh, man, the new M5 is just a BMW...because, you know...the 318ti was slow and odd looking....

 

[Emohawk]

And the M5 is fast and odd looking.
I have an idea!
Find a thread here,
(about the Corvette)
That is less then seven pages long.

 

[Driftster]

well if it's "just a corvette" and everyone aknowledges that.... Why the hell do they keep saying "It's better than ferrari's" and blah blah blah

 

[niky]

I just don't get the "but it's still just a Corvette" comments...duh...of course it is still just a Corvette...that's why it's cool, did you miss the memo?

, I guess that's exactly the point. The negative points against the Corvette are what make it special. Yes, it's "cheap", especially the interior, and as compared to it's segment competitors and other cars in the same power range (don't go on about TVRs, they ain't Federalized... yet). Yes, it's "crude" and "low-tech" in some ways, but the fact that they make it go that well and that fast on what's inside is what's so special about it.

Because the people who make the corvette also sell the matiz.

Chevy didn't engineer the Matiz. It's a Daewoo. It's not their fault that GM is using them to market that thing. Just as it isn't Suzuki's fault that all GM uses them for in the US is to sell those same Daewoos that are badged as Chevys in other countries. And Suzuki makes some swell micro-off roaders, Kei cars and hot hatches... that's Suzuki.

And Chevy makes the Corvette and the (RIP) Camaro... that's Chevy.

I have an idea!
Find a thread here,
(about the Corvette)
That is less then seven pages long.

That's because if you start a thread on anything else, they'll agree that they love it or hate it, and leave it at that. With Corvettes, people either really love it, or really hate it (mostly because they can't understand why those other fools love it)... it's just like Honda Civics. Mention a Honda Civic and entire automotive boards erupt in virtual warfare, ending in flame-fests and banninations. Especially effective if it's a non-Honda board.

 

[Young_Warrior]

Eh I would gladly own a cayenne and the range rover. The 318ti was slow but it handled ok and what compact car could you get in a FR layout other than the bmw.

I know that chevy didnt make the matiz thats why I said sell and niky is completly right about why there are always pages and pages of Z06 debating because americans absoloutely adore it and claim it to be the best car on earth and at first us europeans didnt even consider it to be challenging any porsches or ferraris with similiar output and therefore couldnt see the fuss that was being made and so arguments broke out with stuff liek ye its light and powerful but I can it turn left and right yet.

In the end both sides are wrong. The z06 is a good car but if you had the money for one there are plenty other cars you could consider instead of it.

 

[Dave A]

(don't go on about TVRs, they ain't Federalized... yet).

This is my biggest problem with these types of argument, everything is decided by what goes on in the US attitude. The fact is, no it isn't, why shouldn't I compare the Z06 to a Sagaris, we get them over here. So what if you don't get them in the US, the US isn't the only maret for cars. Like I said before, it's all down to location, if I was in the US I'd be saying how good value the Z06 and other Vettes are, but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay more for a standard C6 than a Sagaris that will cane it round any circuit while offering a similar level of practicality. You cabn't pay less for a Sagaris, cos you don't get them but that doesn't mean we don't so we can compare the two. I'm not having a go at you, you probably didn't mean it as bad as it sounds now I've had a go, but I'm making apoint that I've had to make in every Vette forum I've bee in.

 

[Young_Warrior]

niky you live in the philipines dont you? Im sure you dont get corvettes either unless theyre imported.

 

[Dave A]

Which makes me wonder why he said what I quoted.

 

[Onikaze]

If I had the money, I can think of few cars that get my blood pumping like that Vette does.

The looks, the Sound, the Violent Performance.


I haven't heard people say "better than a Ferrari" I have heard, and said "Faster than lots of Ferrari's, for fractions of the price."

Quite a difference there.

Either way, even for the prices you pay for it overseas, it's still a hell of a car, and it has what is needed to be a great car, even a supercar, soul, sound, sex appeal, and absurd thrust.

 

[Dave A]

I wouldn't consider a C6 for £50k+, no matter how much soul it has. But we've been there before, the Z06 is supposed to reatil for less than I expected which tbh I haven't really thought about much, but makes it an altogether more appealing package, still not cheaper than similar British cars, but unlike the C6 coupe and cabriolet, not plenty more expensive either. It's round about what it should be provided it actually retails at that price,take the C6 coupe for example most places charge 5k+ over the retail price. The other problem over here is the Vette doesn't have much soul or sex appeal because hasn't got a good reputation, in the sates you've had Vettes for half a century, grown up with them and see them more, over here you'll see maybe one or two Vette's a year unless you live near a place that sells them or an owner which is a rare thing. Finally we have an issue with left hand drive cars, we don't like them and if you put together two cars similar in price that both look similar in appeal to you, car a is a bit faster but lhd and car b is rhd, people will choose car b 99% of the time.

 

[Onikaze]

True, that is one of the things holding the Camaro back from production returning.

There is a cheap RHD platform in Australia, but they don't know if it will be cost effective to convert it over to LHD for a new Camaro, so they are thinking about stretching the Solstice Platform.

Speaking of which, a 250 Hp Solstice will rock...imagine one with maybe the old Supercharged 280-290 Hp V-6's from the Monte or Impala SS's...

But yeah, besides the whole "it's cheaper here than there issue" it's a stonkin fast car, and it makes a glorious raucous as it passes you.

That can be universally accepted as cool, right?

 

[Dave A]

It's a cool car yeah, the issue with sex appeal I meant was theres a lot of Ferrari's, Maserati's, and Porsche's ect and a good few Lamborghini's in Manchester. If you pull up out a club in a C6 next to a Murcielago or 360, which will happen here, you won't get noticed. The reason for this can often be as simpke as people care less for what they don't know, they know what a Lamborghini or a Ferrari is, but not a C6, even if they do know it I'm sad to say it can sometimes be down to it being American. But the car itself is a cool car.

 

[Onikaze]

Oh, well if I found myself caring what the average person thinks, I'd have to kill myself.

Seriously, a general rule of thumb to go by is, if you don't know them, they don't count...for anything.

If I pulled up in a new Z06 and cared that some people in a club didn't know what it was, I would rightly deserve to have the car stolen and given to someone who will appreciate it for what it is...fun, not a status symbol.

 

[Joey D]

They are turboing the Soltice GXP just for a heads up.

 

[Onikaze]

Yep, 250 Hp 2.0 Ecotec from what I've heard.

Should rock mightily...now, if Buick could get the platform, slap a twin turbo V-6 into it...we could get a new GNX!

 

[iceburns288]

In the end both sides are wrong. The z06 is a good car but if you had the money for one there are plenty other cars you could consider instead of it.

For an American (I think you're a Brit) a Z06 is a steal. There's nothing less than 80k that can beat the 65k Z06. It's as fast as an F430. If I were a rich guy, and I had a good bit of money, I'd go for a Z06 because it's just so fast and so awesome at a great price. If I were a really rich guy with enough money to spend on a 200k F430, I'd definitely go for that instead of a Z06. I don't think you'll be seeing many of the really rich guys buying Z06s, and that's for a reason. But the great thing about the Z06 is that it's got Ferrari performance for the guys that can't always afford a 200k car or are looking for something a little different. Like torque.

 

[Onikaze]

No, you don't buy a Z06 because it's faster than a F430, that's just a nice benefit.

You aren't going to be using that performance on the streets...hopefully.

If you take it to track days, or SCCA or something, more power to you.

The simple fact of the matter is, THIS is why you buy a Z06.

 

[Dave A]

No we are all getting in agreement, isn't it nice.

 

[Joey D]

The Vette in America is the best buy for any supercar, but if you go else where in the world it isn't. And if anyone says the Viper is a better car they are wrong, the Z06 beats the Viper SRT-10 in about everyway under the sun.

Yep, 250 Hp 2.0 Ecotec from what I've heard.

Should rock mightily...now, if Buick could get the platform, slap a twin turbo V-6 into it...we could get a new GNX!

They only things you've heard about it was from some Autoweek spy shots they took of the car.

And trying to do anything with Buick is stupid, no body buys Buicks any more because pretty much for the same price you can buy a cooler and better looking Caddy. GM needs to realize that Buick is a defuct brand and they need to pull the plug on it like they did Olds.