[RACE] Weekend Fun Runs - Thnks fr th mmrsFinished 

Niku Driver HC
Good grief... The things than can erupt in a conversation all thanks to one driver, who hasn't even raced in the RACE rooms yet to be properly judged by other drivers. What do you suggest then, Angel, with all due and sincere respect? A driving test managed by one of the better drivers, to check if their driving standards are correct? Because if we do want to keep the driving standards right, let's formulate a plan instead of starting yet another needless war.
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Not inviting people just to fill rooms would be a wonderful start. Not grabbing people that already have bad reputations...not being bipolar on what is expected in the rooms...there's a list.
 
BRRT_Angel
It's time someone stood up and said "Hey, this isn't right." I'm not saying we start kicking people, but a specific someone needs to make up their mind about if they want clean standards or a mess.
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Hey, I tried.

But to be fair I think that the harsh comments towards Harsk are uncalled for as we've (or at least I) have never seen his driving. I say even if he's bad, he at least tries to be friendly and a good sport from what I can see. Not to mention that duh comments could possibly end up in infraction points if a moderator interprets it as abuse towards another member. I'll reserve my own judgement until I actually see him drive.

We don't need this, everyone.
 
I'm fairly new here, so I don't really have anything constructive to say at the topic at hand. I already have my coat on :lol:

Had 50 million, in which I spent it on two 20 million cars, followed by a bunch of other cars.

Now I just have 387 credits.
 
If Harsk turns out to be a problem I would be happy to teach him to drive cleanly. I'm not fast but I can definitely drive cleanly.
 
BRRT_Angel
Not inviting people just to fill rooms would be a wonderful start. Not grabbing people that already have bad reputations...not being bipolar on what is expected in the rooms...there's a list.
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Fair enough, points all taken. And as I said, I understand your concern, I am not being a jerk over this and claiming that you're wrong. That is not how I act as a person, because I know that you can be a level-headed person as well. But how can we really know if Harsk is bad in racing conditions when we haven't even seen him in proper racing action? Can we really perform that sort of rash judgement solely based on his rep?

And Whitetail's last words in his post say it all; "we don't need this". And I agree. The last thing we need is more arguments over this obesession over driving standards.
 
Whitetail
Hey, I tried.

But to be fair I think that the harsh comments towards Harsk are uncalled for as we've (or at least I) have never seen his driving. I say even if he's bad, he at least tries to be friendly and a good sport from what I can see. Not to mention that duh comments could possibly end up in infraction points if a moderator interprets it as abuse towards another member. I'll reserve my own judgement until I actually see him drive.

We don't need this, everyone.
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My comments aren't necessarily towards Harsk but towards Nas for continuing to shrug off and ignore suggestions and then turn around and complain that the issues are still there.
 
The image of fun runs is to have fun, relatively clean racing. I don't care about their history or their abilities. As long as they are able to race I will let them race. Angel, I guess you were never that person who got singled out of things for one quality. I have and I will not promote that kind of behavior in Fun Runs. You can say what you want, and you don't need to show up. We will be enjoying the races without you, I suppose. Your loss.

@Harsk100 we promote clean driving, so do what you can to keep from avoidable accidents. It's not as much about winning, as it is about having fun and learning new skills. We look forward to having you race with us :)
 
GTRacer22
There's just too much drama here for my liking. Not sure if I even want to join any lobbies. Probably best for me if I don't.
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I went through a lot of stuff to get this PS3 to play with you guys and ever since I've been back there's been drama after drama. I'm more interested in doing my own thing now thanks to it. :indiff:
 
SVX
I went through a lot of stuff to get this PS3 to play with you guys and ever since I've been back there's been drama after drama. I'm more interested in doing my own thing now thanks to it. :indiff:
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I know that feel. I've been here pretty much since the beginning. What was once a fun, cheerful group of guys that had fun racing together. And now... Well, I'll not get into that. It's pretty much self-explanatory.
GranTurismo916
Because it's full of people who like to get mad over nothing.
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Exactly.

That and there is not a set of simple rules to follow.

/end rant
 
Okay, guys lets just stop all this nonsense. A lot of us are tired of this drama, we come here to race and to have a good time, but now its becoming just a group of bickering and complaining. Yes there does need to be change (a set of rules is needed ASAP) and people are threatening to leave or at least not going to attend, but I feel bad for the people who are now choosing to join at a time of internal disarray and chaos. Now what I think may not be the opinion of all but it is my opinion. I will stay with you guys regularly until mid-August but then I will join when I can, but we need to look at it this way, We are an international group of people, coming from 5 continents and different walks of life, and to all meet up for a few hours to race on a game, a lot of us come on here to rewind and forget about the troubles of the day, have a few laughs and to talk with people on the other side of the world we would never have gotten to know other wise. Finally, I am going to say this lets put our many differences aside and just respect each other both on and off the track.
 
I understand if you all want to leave. There are times where I want to throw in the towel too. HOWEVER, I encourage you to read this and stay for at least one more weekend to try to change your mind:

BASE OUTLINE OF RACE FUN RUNS RULES (WIP)

Sportsmanship
  • No member or guest is allowed to attack or harass another member or guest for their race, nationality, sexual orientation, gender, sex, or religious beliefs.
  • No member shall shun another member under any circumstance
  • All criticism must be constructed and presented in a kind manner
  • If tempers get the best of members, and an arguement breaks out, both members must settle the accident in a civil manner before attending another room
Racecraft

Stock cars / NASCAR
  • Minor pushing, bumping, and shoving is permitted, but multiple instances of the actions resulting in a crash may lead to driver in question being parked.
  • At Daytona Superspeedway, no passing below the yellow line is permitted unless otherwise stated before the race.
  • At Motegi Superspeedway, no passing below the white line is permitted unless otherwise stated before the race.
  • Retaliation, while technically legal, is very frowned upon and is not encouraged.
Open Wheel Racing

  • Intentional pushing, bumping (Including bump drafting), and shoving is NOT permitted unless otherwise stated before the race.
Touring Cars and Sports Cars

  • Minor pushing, bumping, and shoving is permitted, but multiple instances of the actions resulting in a crash may lead to driver in question being parked.
General Racecraft

  • Be aware of your surroundings and only drive to the extent of your driving talent.
  • If you crash another driver and you know it was your fault and not a racing accident, yield your position.
  • Do NOT under any circumstance, go the wrong direction on the track with intent to hurt the progress of another driver(s) race. Failure to comply to this rule will lead to an immediate suspension.
Safety Car Procedure/Flag Rules

  • Green Flag - (GREEN, G) - Go! The race is green and racing has begun!
  • Yellow Flag [Road Course] - (YELLOW, Y) - Be aware of the area denoted as yellow, there is a situation where the track is not clear.
  • Yellow Flag [Oval]/Full Course Yellow/Caution/Safety Car - (FCY, CAUTION, SC, SCD, C) - The field is neturalized and you are no longer racing. Slow down and queue behind the Safety Car if applicable, or leader, and await further instruction.
  • Red Flag - (RED FLAG, RED, R) - The race has been stopped. The field will park the cars in the area designated by Race Control or the room host.

It's still a WIP, and that is what I have so far.
 
nascarfan1400
I understand if you all want to leave. There are times where I want to throw in the towel too. HOWEVER, I encourage you to read this and stay for at least one more weekend to try to change your mind:

BASE OUTLINE OF RACE FUN RUNS RULES (WIP)

Sportsmanship
  • No member or guest is allowed to attack or harass another member or guest for their race, nationality, sexual orientation, gender, sex, or religious beliefs.
  • No member shall shun another member under any circumstance
  • All criticism must be constructed and presented in a kind manner
  • If tempers get the best of members, and an arguement breaks out, both members must settle the accident in a civil manner before attending another room
Racecraft

Stock cars / NASCAR
  • Minor pushing, bumping, and shoving is permitted, but multiple instances of the actions resulting in a crash may lead to driver in question being parked.
  • At Daytona Superspeedway, no passing below the yellow line is permitted unless otherwise stated before the race.
  • At Motegi Superspeedway, no passing below the white line is permitted unless otherwise stated before the race.
  • Retaliation, while technically legal, is very frowned upon and is not encouraged.
Open Wheel Racing

  • Intentional pushing, bumping (Including bump drafting), and shoving is NOT permitted unless otherwise stated before the race.
Touring Cars and Sports Cars

  • Minor pushing, bumping, and shoving is permitted, but multiple instances of the actions resulting in a crash may lead to driver in question being parked.
General Racecraft

  • Be aware of your surroundings and only drive to the extent of your driving talent.
  • If you crash another driver and you know it was your fault and not a racing accident, yield your position.
  • Do NOT under any circumstance, go the wrong direction on the track with intent to hurt the progress of another driver(s) race. Failure to comply to this rule will lead to an immediate suspension.
Safety Car Procedure/Flag Rules

  • Green Flag - (GREEN, G) - Go! The race is green and racing has begun!
  • Yellow Flag [Road Course] - (YELLOW, Y) - Be aware of the area denoted as yellow, there is a situation where the track is not clear.
  • Yellow Flag [Oval]/Full Course Yellow/Caution/Safety Car - (FCY, CAUTION, SC, SCD, C) - The field is neturalized and you are no longer racing. Slow down and queue behind the Safety Car if applicable, or leader, and await further instruction.
  • Red Flag - (RED FLAG, RED, R) - The race has been stopped. The field will park the cars in the area designated by Race Control or the room host.
It's still a WIP, and that is what I have so far.
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Dayum.
 

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