Rate A Car
- Thread starter chronix13
- 1,371 comments
- 100,950 views
- 683
Can you provide us with the link? Thanx loads in advance,Puricele7e 
- 1,203
- Nottingham, England
puricele7eCan you provide us with the link? Thanx loads in advance,Puricele7e
Here it is.
http://www.geocities.com/gt2toxs/
I would suggest viewing the diray sections.
- 292
[edit] nevermind, but look down below!
- 292
Parnelli Bone
WOW!
The Daihatsus are known for their 63 horsepower lawnmower engines pushing an AWD something of small size. Since they are typically classified as "slower than molasses going uphill in January", I thought I would fall asleep doing the review of the Opti Beex. I was wrong.
This little pocket rocket is cheap to buy, and cheap to upgrade. With the car bone stock, I took it to the Kei cup Seattle Short race. I came in fourth place. That was bad, you say. Not so, says I. The Beex was pulling away in the corners, only to get topped (barely) down the straights. This car has potential, thought I.
I put a Stage 1 turbo, racing intercooler, racing exhaust, brakes, engine chip, balancing, porting, racing flywheel, racing driveshaft, and 3-plate clutch. Now the car had a 126 HP engine and much better acceleration. I took it to the 147 HP Kei race at Rome Short.
At the start, I did a redline launch like you always do in these slow cars, but this time I got a HUGE holeshot! With the stock transmission, I hot 103 MPH at the redline before turn 3. Although my racing line was very bad this time, I pulled away from everyone on every corner exit. And this is with a very slow car mind you. I won first place in the slow race.
Then, I fully tuned the car, ready to rally. It has a max of 190 Horsepower and weighs 1600 pounds with the weight reduction, however, there is no Race Mod, not that you need it anyway, so that saves 85,000 carbucks. I went to Smokey Mountain North and tried to eat the Saxo. Well, the Saxo had more power and had me on the straights, but once again the 1600 pound lawnmowermobile was actually catching up to the Saxo in the turns. The problem? Not enough turns!
Realizing rally may not be the car's forte, I went for the GT Nationals. Armed with stiffer, lower suspension and soft slicks, I pwn3d the Japan 197 HP race. As I entered the second lap at Midfield, I was looking back and I didn't even see a spec of the second place car. The car's amazing cornering power was showing to be more worthy than the 130 MPH top speed. The fact that I ripped through the Midfield hairpin at 58 MPH without using the grass was simply awesome! I finished the race with a HUGE 13 second lead!
Feeling cocky, I went for the 246 HP American Nationals. Once again, the competition was pwn3d! It was a real slap in the face for the AIs to have a 3 cylinder lawnmowermobile totally take the holeshot and never fall back! I was also able to hit the Laguna Seca corkscrew at 53 MPH without curb jumping! YEEEHAW!
Really up about my previous win, I decided to go for a do-or-die race. I went straight after the 295 HP German Nationals! Could I really do it? Could my Little Red Beex emerge victorious ahead of Bimmers, Audis, Volkswagen GTis, and the Mersedes SLK230? Could a car 100 horsepower shy really beat the Mean Green German Machines? Well, I put on my best game face and went all out! The car did not get the holeshot. It didn't even pass the 4th place car. However, in turn one I once again claimed my lead. This was tougher to hold. I hit every corner the best I could, and I emerged onto the straightaway with a couple seconds lead. I almost lost it at the end, as my little red kart just didn't have the power to go very fast. But the first turn reassured my lead again, and I won with a couple seconds on the Merc. WOW!!! This car was like MADE for Deep Forest!
Conclusion:
The Beex, when tuned up, is a zippy car to drive. Not fast, but zippy. Great for eating up all the 295 and below horsepower races and astonishing your friends with its wikked handling! WOW! It is also a HUGE BLAST to drive! I highly recommend it!85/100 - Many extra bonus points for the sleeper factor and driving fun!
Next Car: Mercedes-Bena A160 Avantgarde
Once again, TRY the car before you say "0/100 it sucks", and if it really does suck, say why!
- 10,557
- Columbia, MD.
- Parnelli_Bones
Great review, Impreza! Finally, someone who is not afraid to explore the Kei. I'll review the Avantgarde, jsut as soon as i get my PS2 back...
- 746
- Sternendaal
Gonna restart totally with GT2,and now without buying mass cars,and only to do the fun. I'm usre I'm gonna buy that car 
- 10,557
- Columbia, MD.
- Parnelli_Bones
Mercedes Benz A160 Avantgarde
0/100 it sucks.
Ha ha just kidding.
I'm feeling burnt out today so this is gonna be a short one.
Bought the Avantgarde, a car I've been meaning to get ever since I discovered it. Gotta say I was surprised by the $27,000 price tag...I just assumed all Mercedes cost over 40 grand. This car is great for the soccer mom in all of us. Everyone has to at some point go shopping, right? And what better car to do it in than this one? But when the groceries are bought and the kids at school, even mom sometimes wants to tear asphalt. Unfortunately she chooses to do it on the 695 beltway in her Plymouth Grand Voyager or her gigantic ridiculous Ford Expedition, changing lanes without signalling, chattin on her cell phone (and not a hands free model, either!), and tailgating ME, dammit! Instead, what she oughta try doing is gettin her jollies from Gran Turismo 2.
I took the Avantgarde first to the B-license Japanese race at Midfield...mostly cuz it features Kei cars. I like to set a self-imposed limit of 147 hp for this race (50 below the GT limit) and the Benz with a stage 1 turbo was above it, so I ran my grocery getter fully stock except for: computer, racing exhaust, and permanent engine mods and was pushing 128. Stock tires, suspension, brakes, etc. I'm embarrased to say I lost this race to a Toyota Vitz by like several thousandths of a second. Yikes...
But as far as the happy hatch goes: I was surprised...especially by the way it handled. There was some FWD understeer, but even with stock brakes & tires it was controllable.
Next I took it to the intermediate A-license race @ Deep Forest. Gotta give props to my German peeps. the Merc was given sports tires & suspension (dampers set at 2 & 4, camber 2.1° and 2.8°) and sports tranny with a single-plate clutch. The power was now 218 hp (my limit is 220) I how my engine was tuned. I gotta say, again, I was surprised. This 62" tall car is very grippy thru the bumpy turns and I won this race, passing the leading Opel driven by Herr E. Pye in the final turn b4 the straight. I could take this turn at 110 mph, and this allowed me plenty of energy to get past the Opel and cleanly win the race.
Finally, I took the Avantgarde to the Motherland of all soccer mom races: the Station Wagon Series @ Special Stage Route 5. She was so excited she baked cookies and distributed them to her pit crew. The way I set up my car is by a pound / hp ratio for this series, which turned out to be 218 hp again (no weight reductions...mom's gotta have her creature comforts, ya know!)
I did an experiment here: I practiced with a brake controller set at 10 and 21 on stock tires and suspension. Yeah, now there was too much understeer...so the sports go back on.
Anyways, I lost this race to a Subaru Impreza by (no joke) .001 seconds. The Avantgarde had those wagons in the corners but just couldn't beat them down the looooong straight. A hightlite of this race was lap 2: turn one. I was rushing down the straight and about to enter the tunnel. On one side was the Impreza, and on another I think a Stagea. these 2 little-league moms ganged up on me! They literally sandwiched my car in the middle of the tunnel in a desperate attempt to screw me up!
PROS
1. 2 turbo upgrades can be bought.
2. Surprisingly agile handling with some light suspension & brake tuning.
3. Nice price.
CONS
1. poor acceleration. Mediocre speed.
2. Engine displays poor torque even after upgrades.
3. The Avantgarde is limited to lower-level races. Good thing it's not an expensive car.
4. Understeer and leaning.
5. Really, why IS this car in the game and not the friggin' CLK race car?? thanks, EA.
My rating: 35/100
Next car: '98 Subaru Impreza WRX type R STi Version V
0/100 it sucks.
Ha ha just kidding.
I'm feeling burnt out today so this is gonna be a short one.
Bought the Avantgarde, a car I've been meaning to get ever since I discovered it. Gotta say I was surprised by the $27,000 price tag...I just assumed all Mercedes cost over 40 grand. This car is great for the soccer mom in all of us. Everyone has to at some point go shopping, right? And what better car to do it in than this one? But when the groceries are bought and the kids at school, even mom sometimes wants to tear asphalt. Unfortunately she chooses to do it on the 695 beltway in her Plymouth Grand Voyager or her gigantic ridiculous Ford Expedition, changing lanes without signalling, chattin on her cell phone (and not a hands free model, either!), and tailgating ME, dammit! Instead, what she oughta try doing is gettin her jollies from Gran Turismo 2.
I took the Avantgarde first to the B-license Japanese race at Midfield...mostly cuz it features Kei cars. I like to set a self-imposed limit of 147 hp for this race (50 below the GT limit) and the Benz with a stage 1 turbo was above it, so I ran my grocery getter fully stock except for: computer, racing exhaust, and permanent engine mods and was pushing 128. Stock tires, suspension, brakes, etc. I'm embarrased to say I lost this race to a Toyota Vitz by like several thousandths of a second. Yikes...
But as far as the happy hatch goes: I was surprised...especially by the way it handled. There was some FWD understeer, but even with stock brakes & tires it was controllable.
Next I took it to the intermediate A-license race @ Deep Forest. Gotta give props to my German peeps. the Merc was given sports tires & suspension (dampers set at 2 & 4, camber 2.1° and 2.8°) and sports tranny with a single-plate clutch. The power was now 218 hp (my limit is 220) I how my engine was tuned. I gotta say, again, I was surprised. This 62" tall car is very grippy thru the bumpy turns and I won this race, passing the leading Opel driven by Herr E. Pye in the final turn b4 the straight. I could take this turn at 110 mph, and this allowed me plenty of energy to get past the Opel and cleanly win the race.
Finally, I took the Avantgarde to the Motherland of all soccer mom races: the Station Wagon Series @ Special Stage Route 5. She was so excited she baked cookies and distributed them to her pit crew. The way I set up my car is by a pound / hp ratio for this series, which turned out to be 218 hp again (no weight reductions...mom's gotta have her creature comforts, ya know!)
I did an experiment here: I practiced with a brake controller set at 10 and 21 on stock tires and suspension. Yeah, now there was too much understeer...so the sports go back on.
Anyways, I lost this race to a Subaru Impreza by (no joke) .001 seconds. The Avantgarde had those wagons in the corners but just couldn't beat them down the looooong straight. A hightlite of this race was lap 2: turn one. I was rushing down the straight and about to enter the tunnel. On one side was the Impreza, and on another I think a Stagea. these 2 little-league moms ganged up on me! They literally sandwiched my car in the middle of the tunnel in a desperate attempt to screw me up!
PROS
1. 2 turbo upgrades can be bought.
2. Surprisingly agile handling with some light suspension & brake tuning.
3. Nice price.
CONS
1. poor acceleration. Mediocre speed.
2. Engine displays poor torque even after upgrades.
3. The Avantgarde is limited to lower-level races. Good thing it's not an expensive car.
4. Understeer and leaning.
5. Really, why IS this car in the game and not the friggin' CLK race car??
thanks, EA.My rating: 35/100
Next car: '98 Subaru Impreza WRX type R STi Version V
Last edited:
- 10,557
- Columbia, MD.
- Parnelli_Bones
TMM
ha ha! it's true, I worked on my friend's moped yesterday, fixed dinner for my dad cuz it was fathers day, and then gamed for hours (GT2 & Champions of Norrath) and I was actually burnt out. But writing has a way of making me wake up, so next thing I know that Merceds review was like a magazine article. Well, at least it'll get people interested in a car people rarely get interested in.
BTW, the '98 Impreza WRX type R STi version V is still up for grabs!
Last edited:
- 1,203
- Nottingham, England
Parnelli Bone
Sorry, not for me... I don't have any spare time to even turn the PS2 on. In fact yesterday when I should have been having the evening for some gaming time, my wife & daughter returned home early towing the mother-in-law. I ended up watching Wimbolden on the Beeb.
- 10,557
- Columbia, MD.
- Parnelli_Bones
TMM
...yet again, TMM's racing career is put on hold
- 1,203
- Nottingham, England
I haven't really missed it yet and I have been working on my home PC and laptop. I also need to dedicate sometime to setting up my GT2 garage ready to start racing and the weather in the UK is really nice at the mo so I don't really want to sit indoors all evening...
- 292
...well, here goes for the Impreza STi V:
81/100
The Impreza STi V is almost like the STi VI, but it comes up a few horsepower short when max tuned. Expect handling to be the same.
Next Car: Mercury Cougar XR7
81/100
The Impreza STi V is almost like the STi VI, but it comes up a few horsepower short when max tuned. Expect handling to be the same.
Next Car: Mercury Cougar XR7
- 10
Dodge Viper SRT-10
Stage 4 turbo.... 983 HP...........
Stage 4 turbo.... 983 HP...........
- 683
This is GT22 we're talking about 👍
- 292
OK, since everyone is stuck on the next car to use, here's one for y'all...
Pugeot...
...
...
...
.
106 1.6 S16 !!!!!!!
MWAHAHAHAHA! Goe ahead and try it! It's lightweight and super fun to drive!
Pugeot...
...
...
...
.
106 1.6 S16 !!!!!!!
MWAHAHAHAHA! Goe ahead and try it! It's lightweight and super fun to drive!
- 292
78/100 rated a gazillion times already
next car: Renault Clio (NOT ClioSport)
next car: Renault Clio (NOT ClioSport)
- 10,557
- Columbia, MD.
- Parnelli_Bones
¢³
- 10,557
- Columbia, MD.
- Parnelli_Bones
Escudo99
Okay, I'll give this car a proper rating. True the 106 is slow, but 'absalutely useless'?? I would have to disagree.
211 hp is the most you can achieve after plunking down cash for engine balancing, racing exhaust, Stage 3 NA tune, etc. The Stage 3 parts cost a whopping $65,000! Yikes! However....
Sunday Cup, Clubman, FF series (at least the first 2 races), Compact Car series, all of the amateur & intermediate GT Nationals races, Trail Mountain enduro, Apricot Hill enduro (w/o GT40)...so far that's a list of 24 races this car can safely compete and win...and that's if you follow the unwritten 'rules'. Add to the above list some of the 80's races, Luxury Sedan series, the first Historic race, all 3 muscle car events....the list keeps growing and growing, and so far our little 106 has earned over a million credits assuming you sell all those prize cars. Are you sure it's absalutely useless Escudo99?
On top of all this, experienced GTers won't need racing suspension. Some of us won't even need racing slicks. With sport tires, the 106 understeers lightly and must be really forced to oversteer.
So this car isn't the fastest. But within it's class its pretty competitive. I'll give the 106 a 65/100.
Last edited:
- 10,557
- Columbia, MD.
- Parnelli_Bones
Impreza STi
On the other hand, this car IS useless. It's cheap, cute, comes in many colors, but it seems Gran Turismo forgot to include most of the aftermarket engine tuning parts. You can't buy any NA tune stuff AT ALL. Nor can you buy a turbo. It is quoted from the dealer at 171 hp which is a big lie (it's really 108). Once you get racing exhaust, balancing, port/polish, & computer, the Clio 16v makes a whopping 128 hp. It's a money pit! You can only take it to a small # of races, most of the time, it's under-qualified. It has too much power for 2 of the kei car races.
My rating? a 5 out of 100.
Next car: '98 Nissan 300ZX 2 seater version S (look in new car lot).
Last edited:
- 19,699
- Alabamamania
'98 Nissan 300ZX 2 seater version S: 65/100.
Heavy and rather slow, it's just not the turbo version that can get some decent horsepower mods. It's kind of like the little illegitimate twin brother you never should have had, unless you want to make things difficult.
Next: Suzuki Alto Works RS/Z '97.
Heavy and rather slow, it's just not the turbo version that can get some decent horsepower mods. It's kind of like the little illegitimate twin brother you never should have had, unless you want to make things difficult.
Next: Suzuki Alto Works RS/Z '97.
