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[G.T.Ace]

I'm a sucker for widebody kits, so it's only natural to love RWB. <3
Great pics everyone.

 

[Dan]

I love RWB. Thank you so much for creating this thread!!!

A little side note, when GTA V's iFruit app came out, I immediately jumped at the opportunity to reserve the "BEGRIFF" license plate for my Comets. For those of you who don't play GTA, Comets are the game's version of Porsches.

This thread is everything I wanted and more.

There's just something about the outrageous wide fenders and rough style that I cannot get enough of.

I completely agree. These cars are just so beautiful.

A Gulf-liveried RWB Porsche?! I MUST HAVE IT!

 

[homeforsummer]

No idea where this notion has come from. Time Attack is suffering slightly in Japan, it's very much an international sport and it has some of the biggest engineer/aerodynamicist names in international motorsport, mostly ex-F1 guys. WTAC has only a couple of Japanese entrants at best in a field of Australians, the rest of the action is firmly Europe based - UKTA is still car for car the biggest British championship.

It may well be the "biggest British championship", but since it attracts no bigger crowds than the average MX-5 or kit car club race - judging by photos on the series' website - it can hardly be considered some massive thing that everyone is aware of.

Granted, I was exaggerating slightly with my comment about Japan, but Time Attack is still a sport largely known only by those who follow it. Perhaps it has its own community of websites somewhere but the big coverage I see is pretty much limited to Speedhunters.

I certainly can't see anything in the few Autosport mags I have knocking about, and they cover karting, rallycross, club series and all sorts of smaller motorsports in the back of the mag. Maybe that makes me - or them - some sort of mainstream elitist, but ultimately if a sport isn't mainstream (it's taken drifting years of blanket internet coverage to even be talked about in regular motorsport circles) then it can hardly be considered something that many give a monkey's about.

Like it or lump it, it's the Curling or Lacrosse of motorsport. International certainly, but hardly widely followed.

Regarding your stance on Gatebil, it seems unfairly dismissive, considering that Gatebil is a race series and Time Attack series before drifting. There's a reason why people love it - it's because you get WRC drift cars, DTM cars, special saloons and pre-war sports cars coming together all at once. Whatever your field of interest in cars or motorsport, someone will have it covered.

Then perhaps Speedhunters' coverage is poorly weighted. From that article:

It really only struck me this weekend how much Gatebil revolves around drifting and other forms of tyre decimation

It's not like I've not given the event a chance - I've been reading about it on Speedhunters since they started going there however many years ago, but I've discovered that the car builds don't remotely interest me, and I find the blanket coverage on the website boring. I'd much rather read Dino's stories about Tokyo Speedhunting, or about a beautiful car build, or the team's project cars, or retro motorsport events, or their drive stories, or pretty much anything else the site writes about. I'd even rather read about RWB's cars - I may not like the way they look, but it's much easier to appreciate the creative process behind them. As I said myself in my first post in this thread:

I'm torn on RWB. I like the attitude behind the cars, and I like the skill that goes into them, but the cars themselves I find pretty hideous

I'm not sure what's unfairly dismissive about that - beyond a touch of facetiousness, I simply don't find the cars or the event itself interesting. That Speedhunters itself seems to constantly have to justify why they go to Gatebil in the first place - the first paragraph of half of their posts on the event often seems passively apologetic - seems to indicate they're well aware that it's a love-or-hate thing.

 

[Bo]

I certainly can't see anything in the few Autosport mags I have knocking about, and they cover karting, rallycross, club series and all sorts of smaller motorsports in the back of the mag. Maybe that makes me - or them - some sort of mainstream elitist, but ultimately if a sport isn't mainstream (it's taken drifting years of blanket internet coverage to even be talked about in regular motorsport circles) then it can hardly be considered something that many give a monkey's about.

Like it or lump it, it's the Curling or Lacrosse of motorsport. International certainly, but hardly widely followed.

5 years ago, it was still very much a niche. Autosport aren't the best source for coverage, they'll only stick to what they know, leaving things like Super GT and Super Formula (which do have large followings) without a mention. The last couple of years has seen a massive turn - you can't turn up with ridiculous amounts of power and expect to win. Pro Extreme class budgets are utterly extortionate; Black Mamba pulled their 2015 programme to get a full aero redesign from Reverie (they're spending about 3 months in the wind tunnel) and a bespoke engine constructed from the ground up. When I was at UKTA this year, it was only 2 years since I'd last seen it. Since then, the top teams had gone from plywood splitters and aftermarket wings to DRS, laptops and live telemetry. It was actually quite scary to see the kind of money that's thrown in to stay competitive.

I think the reason you don't see it covered in motorsport magazines is that it's still connected almost solely to the aftermarket tuning scene, and not mainstream motorsport. If you approach it from that angle, then it's a very big deal - 2015 has seen 2 British invitations to World Time Attack for the first time ever, so it's a big breakthrough for the British scene.

The only problem with the association with aftermarket tuning is it's slowly starting to slip away. Time Attack is supposedly open to anyone willing to give it a go, no matter how much your car is modified, and it always was that way. The only issue now is even the bottom classes are getting filled with full-on racing cars from various British championships, and the cost isn't too dissimilar either. If you move to the very top end of the spectrum, the technology involved is way beyond the reach of your average track day enthusiast, and probably out the reach of a lot of racing teams too. Things like Gobstopper 2 winning the Goodwood Shootout this year will help raise its profile to no end, but when Time Attack does get better known in the world of professional motorsport, people will be astounded at what's involved. Let's not forget that it's an open formula too, and in an age where a lot of racing fans are left dissatisfied by championships being strangled with rules and regulations, a lot of people have really started to appreciate what it offers.

Sorry for dragging the thread off topic slightly.

 

[RCKakashi14]

I am a big fan of RWBs too. Here in Manila, Nakai-san has crafted six of them so far, the first one being a purple 993 with an LS3 V8 under the hood.

I may not be a fan of that engine swap, but that rear end is just...



(photos from the internet)

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

This thread is everything I wanted and more.

There's just something about the outrageous wide fenders and rough style that I cannot get enough of.

I really like this pic a lot. My favorite of the entire thread.

 

[Heldenzeit]

I am a big fan of RWBs too. Here in Manila, Nakai-san has crafted six of them so far, the first one being a purple 993 with an LS3 V8 under the hood.

I may not be a fan of that engine swap, but that rear end is just...



(photos from the internet)

LS3 and airbags! Pretty wild.

So many colors.

"What the world needs now is rough"

Before the new fenders get installed.

I like this little aero piece they have been doing recently.

 

[Katiegan]

Before the new fenders get installed.

This is actually quite interesting. I always wondered how they built the fenders. I presumed they just bolted a wider one on, not actually cut a portion of the existing fender out first.

 

[Heldenzeit]

Its a lot of work actually. On a unibody car, the rear fenders are structural, so you can't just chop them and leave it. On these I assume, and my own widebody car, you actually need to fold the outer metal inwards and weld it back to the body. Its pretty involved. The tire would hit the old fender if you didn't remove material.

 

[ImaRobot]

I am a big fan of RWBs too. Here in Manila, Nakai-san has crafted six of them so far, the first one being a purple 993 with an LS3 V8 under the hood.

I may not be a fan of that engine swap, but that rear end is just...



(photos from the internet)

I actually follow the owner of this vehicle. He owns a shop there. He also has a R34 UTE that he is building, a V8 Swapped M3, and all sorts of other cool vehicles.

 

[Sage Ages]

I presumed they just bolted a wider one on, not actually cut a portion of the existing fender out first.

If they left the existing fender, they wouldn't have as much wheel clearance.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I'm not a fan of bog-standard 911's, but I really like the cars modified by RWB. There's something about widebodied Porsche's that I just can't explain... They look perfect to me, and the passion that the whole company embodies is like nothing I've seen before.

 

[Katiegan]

Here's a really interesting article on how Nakai-san builds the Porsches.

http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/08/the-master-builder-creating-rwb-miyabi/

I recommend reading it even if you're not big into the RWB style. Especially this quote, which might change the opinions of some people in here...

It was at this point that I started to think about some of the negative comments that I see floating around on this wonderful place that we call the internet. RWB cars being only for show? People don’t drive them? Come on guys, Nakai has always built his cars for customers that spend all their spare time at the track. Sure, there have been some more show-oreinted builds around the world, but the fact that those cars don’t see the track or nice roads is purely down to the owner’s choice, not that the cars can’t be driven because they’re too low or too wide. I’ve driven many RWBs and they are set up for fun – forgiving fun at that.

 

[homeforsummer]

I recommend reading it even if you're not big into the RWB style. Especially this quote, which might change the opinions of some people in here...

To be fair, that's one of the nicer ones I've seen - largely because it's wearing a neat ducktail spoiler rather than something that looks like it's fallen off Baron von Richthofen's Fokker Dr.1. It's a pity there are no decent photos of the finished build though. It'd be great to see some proper shots of it with the roof down.

(What I really want to see is that black Beetle in the background...)​

Going back to the quote though, I don't think I've claimed people don't use the RWB cars - I just said the people who use them to compete do so in series nobody really cares about

Also, expecting Dino to be remotely critical of someone or something that Speedhunters has spent so much time building hype around is perhaps a little optimistic. Of course he's going to say that everyone uses their cars and they're absolutely wonderful on track.

 

[Famine]

RWB is Japanese?

Crikey. You can't spell that in Japanese. I'd love to hear a Japanese person pronounce that.

 

[lxmmy]

'After two months'

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[ImaRobot]

RWB is Japanese?

Crikey. You can't spell that in Japanese. I'd love to hear a Japanese person pronounce that.

The odd thing is that German pops up often in anime as well. I'm wondering if there's some sort of fascination with it within the culture.

 

[Heldenzeit]

They use a lot of Japanese/German words. Kinda like Engrish, but German.

Sekund Entwicklung being a prime example. Supposed to translate to "next development" from my understanding, but that should be "Zweite entwicklung".

Der dritte schlag. I think that's "The third impact" or something like that.

 

[Cano]

purple 993 with an LS3 V8 under the hood.

That automatically makes it the most interesting RWB Porsche so far. And the color combo is just gorgeous, I love that freaking purple. More info/links/anything?

 

[Heldenzeit]

Victoria is gorgeous.

 

[Heldenzeit]

New throttles for the Garuda car.

Have you seen their 996? I think there's only 1 or 2.

 

[ImaRobot]

That automatically makes it the most interesting RWB Porsche so far. And the color combo is just gorgeous, I love that freaking purple. More info/links/anything?

https://instagram.com/carpornracingmanila/?hl=en Here's the instagram of the shop that owns it. The build is pretty old so they don't post as much about it anymore, but if you scroll through you'll find videos and the like eventually.

 

[Cano]

Victoria is gorgeous.

I hadn't even noticed the name of the car. I even like the name got dammit.

https://instagram.com/carpornracingmanila/?hl=en Here's the instagram of the shop that owns it. The build is pretty old so they don't post as much about it anymore, but if you scroll through you'll find videos and the like eventually.

Thanks a lot dude 👍 will scroll, brb

 

[RCKakashi14]

Just a few weeks ago, Car Porn Racing here in Manila has spawned the latest RWB Porsche 993 built by none other than Nakai-san himself:

"Tubero".

Actually, that's "Plumber" in Filipino.


(Images from Car Porn Racing's FB Page)

 

[Dan]

Just a few weeks ago, Car Porn Racing here in Manila has spawned the latest RWB Porsche 993 built none other than Nakai-san himself:

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"Tubero".

Actually, that's "Plumber" in Filipino.


(Images from Car Porn Racing's FB Page)

Beautiful car and I love the paint, but the wheels just don't do it for me. :/

 

[Carlos]

What if...

 

[Dan]

What if...

Nakai, please make this.

Please.

 

[McLaren]

I'm probably a loner here, but I think my favorite car from RWB is the S15. Although, I guess in technical terms, it's a shop employee's & not something from Nakai-san.

 

[Heldenzeit]

I like it too. The wheel, tire, bodywork combo is on point.

Here's a wheel from RWB "Rough Rhythm"

 

[Heldenzeit]

Catalina is one of my favorite "non-rough" builds. The paint is amazing.