READ THE OP! GTP Cool Wall Nomination Thread [Always accepting more cars!]

[Slash]

Sometimes I want to kick you because you're such a Mustang nerd just sometimes, don't worry 👍

Its my favorite car don't hate me

 

[Jahgee]

Alright, so I'm going to declare this thread as the official place to discuss the rules of the Cool Wall. That it mind, I'm going to open up discussion to the allowing of modified vehicles as separate entries on the Cool Wall. Please state your opinion on the idea and why you feel this way.

For me personally, I'm for it as long as it has been modified enough to seem different from the stock car.

NOTE: My personal opinion won't affect the decision more than anyone elses. I intend to get everyone's opinion before making as big a decision as this. There may be a thread with a poll in it about this issue at a later date.

 

[Roger the Horse]

I'm against it.

Too much ground for abuse, and it opens the doors for even more slightly different versions of Mustangs. Did I mention the potential for abuse:

 

[Jahgee]

I'm against it.

Too much ground for abuse, and it opens the doors for even more slightly different versions of Mustangs. Did I mention the potential for abuse:

This is the template everyone should follow for making your opinion in these types of discussions. Thank you @Roger the Horse for setting a good example.

 

[Tornado]

Aren't there enough cars in the world that we don't have to nominate versions of cars with sticker packages and rims?

 

[Turtle]

I'm against it too. Like Roger said, it's just too easy to abuse it.

And this:

...and it opens the doors for even more slightly different versions of Mustangs.

was the first thing that popped into my head when I read that you considered allowing modified cars.

 

[Downhill Dino]

The car would have to be significantly modified to be worth the effort. Whether it be just visually or performance, or both.

 

[Roger the Horse]

Honestly, I feel the other problem is that if a car is sufficiently different from the car it's based on to be considered a different car, then surely it'd be allowed as it'd be considered a coachbuilt anyway.

There's also the matter of Rufs and Alpinas etc. (Cars that are legally considered to be products of a different manufacturer, but to the untrained eye are no different to the vehicles upon which they were originally based.)

 

[Turtle]

Well Rufs are considered production cars, rather than tuner or modified cars right? I'm not sure about Alpina though, I've never really known if they were considered modified or not.

 

[Tornado]

I think on the context in question he's referring to one offs rather than cars from dedicated tuning companies, which are already allowed anyway.

 

[Roger the Horse]

As far as I'm aware, whether or not cars from dedicated tuning companies are allowed or disallowed so far has depended on whether that car is legally considered to be a modified vehicle or a vehicle produced by said company. Hence why the Ruf Yellowbird was allowed recently but a Saleen(?) Mustang was disallowed a while back.

 

[JMoney]

I think we should ban concepts. Except the Devel, of course, it can stay, but all the rest should be removed.

I would say we should make race cars a separate cool wall because of all the "Seriously Uncool because Racecar" votes that screw it up, but since the cars have already been polled it would be too late.

 

[Aesthetics]

1933 Dymaxion Car

Body Style: 4(?)-Door... Sedan Concept?
Engine: 3.6L Ford Flathead V8
Power Output: 85 hp
Transmission: Ford 3-speed transmission
Drivetrain: Rear Engine, Front Wheel Drive!
Additional Information: Project abandoned after it was involved in a accident at the 1933 World Fair, where it rolled over, killing the driver and seriously injuring two passengers. It also has a very, very tight turning radius, despite being 20 feet long, thanks to it's rear wheel steering. Out of the 3 made, only 1 exist, and 1 more was made to honor the car in 2010.

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[Jahgee]

1933 Dymaxion Car
View attachment 218071
Body Style: 4(?)-Door... Sedan Concept?
Engine: 3.6L Ford Flathead V8
Power Output: 85 hp
Transmission: Unknown
Drivetrain: Rear Engine, Front Wheel Drive!
Additional Information: Project abandoned after it was involved in a accident at the 1933 World Fair, where it rolled over, killing the driver and seriously injuring two passengers. It also has a very, very tight turning radius, despite being 20 feet long. Out of the 3 made, only 1 exist, and 1 more was made to honor the car in 2010.

EDIT: Maybe I should have read through first, if you guys are banning concept cars..​

Nah, keep it, don't know where banning concept cars came from. The only rule change that has been proposed by myself (The one with the power to change the rules) is allowing modified vehicles. Also, I've found a source that says that this car has a 1933 Ford Sedan transmission, please edit your post with the specs of that transmission that are required for a Cool Wall Queue spot, and then it will be liked and added to the queue

 

[JMoney]

Drivetrain: Rear Engine, Front Wheel Drive!
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[GranTurismo916]

Drivetrain: Rear Engine, Front Wheel Drive!
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[SlipZtrEm]

Add another vote against modified cars being eligible. There's no need.

 

[Legro]

Drivetrain: Rear Engine, Front Wheel Drive!​

I think we all know why that didn't catch on.

 

[NotThePrez]

I think we should ban concepts. Except the Devel, of course, it can stay, but all the rest should be removed.

I would say we should make race cars a separate cool wall because of all the "Seriously Uncool because Racecar" votes that screw it up, but since the cars have already been polled it would be too late.

Having a separate cool wall for race cars really won't stop people voting seriously uncool, since it's still a race car being voted on it's coolness.

Also, one more against adding modified cars to the cool wall. Also @Jahgee1124 , you misspelled Panamera in the OP.

 

[Doog]

Mercedes-Benz Geländewagen (G-Class)
1979-present

​

Body Style: ​

2-door SWB
2-door SWB convertible
2-door SWB van
2-door LWB van
4-door LWB station wagon
​

Engine:​

460 (civilian, 1979-1991), 461 (military, 1979-present):

2.0L I4
2.3L I4
2.8L I6Petrol
2.4L I4 diesel
2.5L I5 diesel
3.0L I5 diesel

463 (civilian, 1990-present):

5.0L V8
5.4L supercharged V8
5.5L twin-turbo V8
6.0L twin-turbo V12
2.9L V6 Diesel
4.0L V8 Diesel

Power Output:

460 models:

200 GE — M102E20 2.0 L I4, 109 PS (80 kW) at 5200 rpm, (only sold in Italy and a few other markets)[5]
230 G — M115 2.3 L I4, 102 hp (75 kW), 127 lb·ft (172 N·m/3000 rpm)230 GE — M102E23 2.3 L I4, 125 PS (92 kW) at 5000 rpm, 141 lb·ft (192 N·m/4000 rpm)
280 GE — M110E 2.8 L I6, 156 hp (115 kW), 166 lb·ft (226 N·m/4250 rpm)
240GD — OM616 2.4 L Diesel I4, 72 PS (53 kW) at 4400 rpm, 101 lb·ft (137 N·m/2400 rpm)
250 GD — OM602 2.5 L Diesel I5, 84 hp (62 kW), 113 lb·ft (154 N·m/2800 rpm)
300 GD — OM617 3.0 L Diesel I5, 88 PS (65 kW) at 4400 rpm, 126 lb·ft (172 N·m/2400 rpm)

461 models:

230 GE — M102E23 2.3 L I4, 125 hp (92 kW), 140 lb·ft (192 N·m/4000 rpm)
290 GD — OM602D29 2.9 L Diesel I5, 95 hp (71 kW)290 GD TD — OM602DLA29 2.9 L Diesel I5 (turbocharged), 92 kW (123 hp)

461 Worker/Professional/Greenline:

270 CDI — OM612 2.7 L Diesel I5 (turbocharged), 156 hp (115 kW), 294 lb·ft (400 N·m)
280 CDI — OM642 3.0 L Diesel V6, 183 hp (135 kW), 294 lb·ft (400 N·m) (manufactured in both 4×4 and 6×6)
300 CDI — OM642 3.0 L Diesel V6, 183 hp (135 kW), 294 lb·ft (400 N·m)

463 models:
G500 — M113E50 5.0L V8, 292 PS (215kW, 282 hp) at 5500 rpm, 456N·m (336 lb·ft/2800 rpm)G55 AMG Kompressor — M113E55ML 5.4L V8 (supercharged), 476PS (350kW, 469 hp) at 6100 rpm, 700N·m (516lb·ft/2650-4500 rpm)
G55 AMG Kompressor — M113E55ML 5.4L V8 (supercharged), 500 PS (368kW, 493 hp) at 6100 rpm, 700N·m (516lb·ft/2750-4000 rpm)
G320 CDI — OM642DE30LA 2.9L Diesel V6 (turbocharged), 224PS (165kW, 221 hp at 3800 rpm, 540N·m (398 lb·ft/1600-2400 rpm)
G280 CDI — OM642DE30LA 3.0L Diesel V6 (turbocharged), 184 PS (135 kW, 181 hp) at 3800, 400 N·m (295 lb·ft/1600–2600 rpm)
G350 BlueTEC — OM642DE30LA 3.0L Diesel V6 (turbocharged), 211 PS (155 kW, 208 hp)@3400, 540 N·m (398 lb·ft/1600–2400 rpm)
G350 CDI — OM642DE30LA 3.0L Diesel V6 (turbocharged), 224 PS (165 kW, 221 hp) at 3800 rpm, 540 N·m (398 lb·ft/1600–2400 rpm)
G500/G550 (2012+) — M273E55 5.5L V8, 388 PS (285 kW, 383 hp) at 6000 rpm, 530 N·m (391 lb·ft/2800–4800 rpm)
G63 AMG — M157DE55AL 5.5L V8 (twin-turbocharged), 544 PS (400 kW, 537 hp) at 5500 rpm, 760 N·m (561 lb·ft/2000–5000 rpm)
G65 AMG — M275E60AL 6.0L V12 (twin-turbocharged), 612 PS (450 kW, 604 hp) at 4300–5600 rpm, 1,000 N·m (738 lb·ft/2300–4300 rpm)

Transmission:

460/461:

4-speed manual
5-speed manual
4-speed automatic
5-speed automatic

463:

5-speed automatic
7-speed automatic
​

Drivetrain: Front engine, 4WD​

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[Jahgee]

Mercedes-Benz Geländewagen (G-Class)
1979-present

Body Style:

2-door SWB
2-door SWB convertible
2-door SWB van
2-door LWB van
4-door LWB station wagon

Engine:

460 (civilian, 1979-1991), 461 (military, 1979-present):

2.0L I4
2.3L I4
2.8L I6Petrol
2.4L I4 diesel
2.5L I5 diesel
3.0L I5 diesel

463 (civilian, 1990-present):

5.0L V8
5.4L supercharged V8
5.5L twin-turbo V8
6.0L twin-turbo V12
2.9L V6 Diesel
4.0L V8 Diesel

Power Output:

460 models:

200 GE — M102E20 2.0 L I4, 109 PS (80 kW) at 5200 rpm, (only sold in Italy and a few other markets)[5]
230 G — M115 2.3 L I4, 102 hp (75 kW), 127 lb·ft (172 N·m/3000 rpm)230 GE — M102E23 2.3 L I4, 125 PS (92 kW) at 5000 rpm, 141 lb·ft (192 N·m/4000 rpm)
280 GE — M110E 2.8 L I6, 156 hp (115 kW), 166 lb·ft (226 N·m/4250 rpm)
240GD — OM616 2.4 L Diesel I4, 72 PS (53 kW) at 4400 rpm, 101 lb·ft (137 N·m/2400 rpm)
250 GD — OM602 2.5 L Diesel I5, 84 hp (62 kW), 113 lb·ft (154 N·m/2800 rpm)
300 GD — OM617 3.0 L Diesel I5, 88 PS (65 kW) at 4400 rpm, 126 lb·ft (172 N·m/2400 rpm)

461 models:

230 GE — M102E23 2.3 L I4, 125 hp (92 kW), 140 lb·ft (192 N·m/4000 rpm)
290 GD — OM602D29 2.9 L Diesel I5, 95 hp (71 kW)290 GD TD — OM602DLA29 2.9 L Diesel I5 (turbocharged), 92 kW (123 hp)

461 Worker/Professional/Greenline:

270 CDI — OM612 2.7 L Diesel I5 (turbocharged), 156 hp (115 kW), 294 lb·ft (400 N·m)
280 CDI — OM642 3.0 L Diesel V6, 183 hp (135 kW), 294 lb·ft (400 N·m) (manufactured in both 4×4 and 6×6)
300 CDI — OM642 3.0 L Diesel V6, 183 hp (135 kW), 294 lb·ft (400 N·m)

463 models:
G500 — M113E50 5.0L V8, 292 PS (215kW, 282 hp) at 5500 rpm, 456N·m (336 lb·ft/2800 rpm)G55 AMG Kompressor — M113E55ML 5.4L V8 (supercharged), 476PS (350kW, 469 hp) at 6100 rpm, 700N·m (516lb·ft/2650-4500 rpm)
G55 AMG Kompressor — M113E55ML 5.4L V8 (supercharged), 500 PS (368kW, 493 hp) at 6100 rpm, 700N·m (516lb·ft/2750-4000 rpm)
G320 CDI — OM642DE30LA 2.9L Diesel V6 (turbocharged), 224PS (165kW, 221 hp at 3800 rpm, 540N·m (398 lb·ft/1600-2400 rpm)
G280 CDI — OM642DE30LA 3.0L Diesel V6 (turbocharged), 184 PS (135 kW, 181 hp) at 3800, 400 N·m (295 lb·ft/1600–2600 rpm)
G350 BlueTEC — OM642DE30LA 3.0L Diesel V6 (turbocharged), 211 PS (155 kW, 208 hp)@3400, 540 N·m (398 lb·ft/1600–2400 rpm)
G350 CDI — OM642DE30LA 3.0L Diesel V6 (turbocharged), 224 PS (165 kW, 221 hp) at 3800 rpm, 540 N·m (398 lb·ft/1600–2400 rpm)
G500/G550 (2012+) — M273E55 5.5L V8, 388 PS (285 kW, 383 hp) at 6000 rpm, 530 N·m (391 lb·ft/2800–4800 rpm)
G63 AMG — M157DE55AL 5.5L V8 (twin-turbocharged), 544 PS (400 kW, 537 hp) at 5500 rpm, 760 N·m (561 lb·ft/2000–5000 rpm)
G65 AMG — M275E60AL 6.0L V12 (twin-turbocharged), 612 PS (450 kW, 604 hp) at 4300–5600 rpm, 1,000 N·m (738 lb·ft/2300–4300 rpm)

Transmission:

460/461:

4-speed manual
5-speed manual
4-speed automatic
5-speed automatic

463:

5-speed automatic
7-speed automatic

Drivetrain: Front engine, 4WD
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Please limit your nomination to either the 460, 461 or 463

 

[mustang fanatic]

You're specs are incorrect, the last engine should be a 429ci 4V V-8 with 375hp (CJ-R)

Really? I never knew that.

All I know is that there was a Ram Air version of the 428 Cobra Jet, and a non Ram Air version. I didn't think the 429 Cobra Jet was available in Mustangs until 71.

 

[Spacegoat]

1978-1981 BMW M1

Body Style: 2 door coupe.
Engine: 3.5L Inline six cylinder.
Power Output: 273hp.
Transmission: 5-speed manual.
Drivetrain: Rear mid-engined rear wheel drive.​

 

[Legro]

2012- Youabian Puma

Body style: 2 door convertible
Engine: 7.0L V8
Power output: 505hp
Transmission: 6 speed automatic
Drivetrain: Front-engine rear wheel drive​

 

[Jahgee]

Youabian Puma
View attachment 220897

Body style: 2 door convertible
Engine: 7.0L V8
Power output: 505hp
Transmission: 6 speed automatic
Drivetrain: Front-engine rear wheel drive​

Just add the years (I'd go with 2012- personally, but it's up to you as the nominator) to this post and it'll be a real nomination

 

[Legro]

Actually I have no idea about its drivetrain I just couldn't look at it longer.

 

[Jahgee]

Actually I have no idea about its drivetrain I just couldn't look at it longer.

It's RWD, I just checked their website

 

[AlvaroF]

1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Zagato
​

Body style: 2 door coupe
Engine: 1.3L Inline 4
Power output: 100 hp
Transmission: 5 speed manual
Drivetrain: Front-engine, rear wheel drive​

 

[RocZX]

1995 Mega Track

Body Style: 2 door coupe
Engine: 6.0L Mercedes V12
Power Output: 394 HP
Transmission: 4 speed auto
Drivetrain: Mid engine 4WD
It had a top speed 154mph ( 250kph)
Only 5 of them were made
You can adjust the ground clearance from 8in to 13in.​

 

[AudiMan2011]

2012- Renault Twizy Z.E.

Body Style: 2 door coupe
Engine: 13kW electric motor
Power Output: 17 hp
Transmission: Single speed auto
Drivetrain: Mid engine, RWD
Other information: The Twizy is officially classed as a quadricycle in Europe and is one of the cheapest electric cars on sale​