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Next is my 1944 Izhevsk M44 Carbine. Again, 100 % numbers matching piece, complete with all the accessories, (field strap removed, but I do have it in the safe). This one is going to get a complete restoration ... one of these days. It actually looks rougher than what it is. It has a slightly dark barrel with no signs of scaring. It's a clean, fun (fire breathing) shooter. Fire breathing because if you ever shot an M44 Carbine on surplus ammo, you'd know why. Hell yeah, light up the night.
Last but not least, the pride of my Mosins. A 1929 Izhevsk "Hex Receiver" M9130. 100% complete and 100% numbers matching. I've yet to remove the cosmoline from it. Perhaps one of these days I will get around to it. Cosmoline removal is easy, time consuming, but yet still a pain in the ass.
Very cool collection. These rifles remember the times of Stalin in power.
Thanks for sharing the pics!
Fire-breathing carbine... sounds exciting.
Unfortunately, I've never shot any bigger caliber than the 5.45x39 yet.
Also, something about your 1929 Izhevsk hex receiver one... I think it's not an M9130. Because "M9130" means "model 1891/1930" (the modernized version of '30), but yours is 1929.
However, your sight looks like sector type, and the foresight ring is there, just like it should be on a 1891/30 model rifle. Maybe the year is not correct (of not exact)?
Mosin rifles are still produced in RF. These models are known as Molot KO-91/30 and Izhmash MP-143. Almost no differeces from the original army rifles (except for forensic marks and bayonet removed to meet the regulations). There's also a 9x53 caliber version - Molot VPO-103.
But I'll be allowed to own a rifle only after 5 years of owning a shotgun, that's our law.
However, there are also Mosin-based shotguns (like the Molot Muflon mentioned before).
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Could those .410 Mosins be converted to .45-70? You'd need a barrel swap, but the 45-70 has the same rim diameter as the .410, the length is pretty much the same and its a .45 caliber, just like the .410 so the magazine would work.
I remember when some Enfields were converted to .410 AND .45-70. A .45-70 Mosin would be SWEET, imagine accelerating 525 grains of lead to 1500 fps out of a little M44. now THAT would be powerful.
That makes me think, could a .410 Saiga semi auto shotgun be converted to .45-70?
.45-70's with 525 grain bullets, on the far right a .308:
A .45-70 next to a .410
I remember when some Enfields were converted to .410 AND .45-70. A .45-70 Mosin would be SWEET, imagine accelerating 525 grains of lead to 1500 fps out of a little M44. now THAT would be powerful.
That makes me think, could a .410 Saiga semi auto shotgun be converted to .45-70?
.45-70's with 525 grain bullets, on the far right a .308:
A .45-70 next to a .410
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Very cool collection. These rifles remember the times of Stalin in power.
Thanks for sharing the pics!
Fire-breathing carbine... sounds exciting.
Unfortunately, I've never shot any bigger caliber than the 5.45x39 yet.
Also, something about your 1929 Izhevsk hex receiver one... I think it's not an M9130. Because "M9130" means "model 1891/1930" (the modernized version of '30), but yours is 1929.
However, your sight looks like sector type, and the foresight ring is there, just like it should be on a 1891/30 model rifle. Maybe the year is not correct (of not exact)?
Mosin rifles are still produced in RF. These models are known as Molot KO-91/30 and Izhmash MP-143. Almost no differeces from the original army rifles (except for forensic marks and bayonet removed to meet the regulations). There's also a 9x53 caliber version - Molot VPO-103.
But I'll be allowed to own a rifle only after 5 years of owning a shotgun, that's our law.
However, there are also Mosin-based shotguns (like the Molot Muflon mentioned before).
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From my readings and understandings, it is an M91/30. From Wiki -
This particular Mosin, being a 1929 falls into place here.
Date - post 1924
Measurements - are in meters
front sight - it is a hooded post
Here are some more pics.
The C.A.I. tag is calling it out as an M91/30
The Hex Receiver is stamped M91/30
The factory stampings identify it as a 1929. Note the Izhevsk Triangle w/arrow and the Izhevsk Crest. Nice vivid clear stampings.
The Molot VPO-10 chambered in 9x53 sounds amazing. I'd love to shoot one of those.
I may have to keep an eye open for one of these, it sounds like a nice piece. It is pretty cool to see.
Just make sure you are utilizing gun safety (eye, ear protection, possibly even facial protection), this can be dangerous as well. If you ever get the chance ... do try it, you'll love it.
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Hmm, the Russian Wiki says the same. As I assume, the modernization was just started after the Civil War and was carried out gradually, part by part, planned to complete by 1930, so they called it "model 1891/30".
The Molot VPO-10 chambered in 9x53 sounds amazing. I'd love to shoot one of those.
Here's an article about the VPO-103 (it's in Russian, but you can see some nice pics) - http://www.kalibr.ru/pdf/44/vpo103.pdf.
They were testing two versions - a standard (based on the 1944 carbine) and a "deluxe edition" with shiny metal parts and a flash hider. The 9x53 cartridge makes it a very good gun for hunting large animals, like boars, mooses and even bears - the stopping power is great, but it goes down on distance of 200m and higher, as well as ballistics.
They also loaded and tried it with the Finnish cartridge - 9,3x53R Sako, which has a slightly larger bullet dimensions and, more important, higher gas pressure. Guns of Molot Arms are known to be pretty durable, although the manufacturer does not recommend using this type of ammo on the VPO-103, but it did a few shots with no problems and the muzzle energy was 20% higher, getting close to such powerful ammo as 9,3x62 Mauser.
Even if they could, converting a shotgun into a rifle is against the law in RF. Of course, if you get one in your country, you might try...
OMG, it's even less than the Russian 10-round limit.
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I'm getting a little bit curious now. Could this be a Dragoon left-over, marked as an M91/30 ? I'm going to do a little more digging up on this piece. Could it be a late model Dragoon caught up in the 1930 changeover ?
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I sooooo want one of these now.
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Any of you guys live near a Gander Mountain Store ?
Black Friday will feature a 1400 round Remington Bucket Of Bullets sale. 1400 rounds of .22LR for just $69.99 / .05 per round.
LINKHell of a deal.
The wife is off this day and I already told her where she will be.
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It said "Who is in N" before, maybe I quoted just as it was changed.
Anyway, all it means is we need more people to join with groups like NRA-ILA or GOA so we can stop the anti-gun nonsense.
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