Real Guns
- Thread starter Calibretto
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- N0t_L3fty
Not sure about the Russian ones, mine is stamped "made in China", no grooves on it. I did buy an after market replacement dust cover with a rail on it. Of course it didn't fit, machining was terrible. Now that I think about the B-square mounts were not getting rave reviews either. They are what they are, fun little plinker, brush busting deer gun, & "get outa my house" if pushed to it. Cheap to produce rifle to arm your cannon fodder with. Just like their more infamous sister the AK-47. They just aren't so "scary", no pistol grip, or big banana looking magazine hanging out of them. Well that & a wooden stock, not plastic.
- 5,760
- Pennsylvania
- Ilikewaffles_11
Awesome, thanks for the info. Guess I'll have to test it out when the neighbors start going nuts with the fireworks as they always do. 
A scope would be neat, but I'm a terrible shot and I only go shooting for fun so it's not worth the hassle for me just to shoot some cantaloupes open.
A scope would be neat, but I'm a terrible shot and I only go shooting for fun so it's not worth the hassle for me just to shoot some cantaloupes open.
- 5,218
- Nicest part of hell
@N0t_L3fty
Too bad about the dust cover, you couldn't fit it to the gun with files or a dremel tool?
Then again, if the dust cover would probably move around enough to mess with the zero all the time, to keep it an iron sighted rifle is probably the wisest thing.
There is always the option to replace the rear sight with a MOJO aperture sight. Its a great sight and you only have to swap out the old sight and put in the new one. No modifications necessary. It makes a MUCH better sight picture. I had one of those sights on a K98 for a long time and it worked wonderfully.
Too bad about the dust cover, you couldn't fit it to the gun with files or a dremel tool?
Then again, if the dust cover would probably move around enough to mess with the zero all the time, to keep it an iron sighted rifle is probably the wisest thing.
There is always the option to replace the rear sight with a MOJO aperture sight. Its a great sight and you only have to swap out the old sight and put in the new one. No modifications necessary. It makes a MUCH better sight picture. I had one of those sights on a K98 for a long time and it worked wonderfully.
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- N0t_L3fty
The stock iron sights worked wonderfully for slinking through the brush hunting deer. Yeah, I had hoped the dust cover would work just to toss a red dot on it. It was not going to work if I took the trusty Dremel tool after it. Too much material need to be removed in 3 different places, may have just been a bad part. They didn't have another one in stock to try. I put the action back into an old Ramline folder, so at the moment the weapon is useless for anything other home defense (endanger everyone on the block), or punching paper. So we punch holes in paper with it.
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Anyone here like 1911s?
- 5,760
- Pennsylvania
- Ilikewaffles_11
So my old man picked this up today, Smith and Wesson 500. He didn't fire it but I shot it once, hell of a kick!
Edit: Anybody know anything about Carcanos? Really nice one with a clip included I can get for $125. Not sure how much they normally go for and online it just says how much they used to go for...
Edit: Anybody know anything about Carcanos? Really nice one with a clip included I can get for $125. Not sure how much they normally go for and online it just says how much they used to go for...
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- On the beach, Cali
Nice gun...I really enjoy shooting mine. I have some 450gr. soft points that kick like a bull, but the 350gr. target loads aren't bad at all. At 2-3 bucks a pop for factory, reloading is a must.
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If you are in for some real punishment there are 700 grainers out there, trucking along at an impressive 1300 fps. Thats like one and a three quarter shotgun slugs out of a handgun.
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- Arizona
- HamiltonMP427
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- Nicest part of hell
Crazy me just ordered body armor for 500 bucks. Its a vest with level II soft armor on back, front and sides, the front also has a level IV rated ceramic plate that can stop up to .30-06 AP rounds and as accessory I got a ballistic stand-up collar for neck protection as well. It has -of course- MOLLE attachment slings all over the place.
I'm probably a complete fool because I just bought something expensive I'll never need, not even in one of those infamous SHTF situations.
However, if I need it it could save my life. Should I ever experience a home invasion I sure as hell would slip into the armor. Also, its just damn cool.
Its this one, just in black:
I'm probably a complete fool because I just bought something expensive I'll never need, not even in one of those infamous SHTF situations.
However, if I need it it could save my life. Should I ever experience a home invasion I sure as hell would slip into the armor. Also, its just damn cool.
Its this one, just in black:
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- Arizona
- HamiltonMP427
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- OREGON
- a6m5zero
If such thing exist, it wouldn't surprise me after hearing about attack in Orlando. From the media coverage though, it didn't sound like there is a background check of any sort.
- 22,551
- Arizona
- HamiltonMP427
It was more of a joke, but considering they supposedly were watching the guy to whatever degree that may have been, no one knows for certain how one ends up on such a list. Hell us being big gun lovers here could possibly get us on one just because. Now that I've used my tinfoil hat back to the pictures.
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- KCCO
Work begins on refinishing the Mosin stock. Not a fan of the shellac, nor the areas where none of it is left.
Kinda scared right now while i wait for the stripper to finish the job, hoping it goes well.
Kinda scared right now while i wait for the stripper to finish the job, hoping it goes well.
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- Nicest part of hell
Make sure you always go with the grain, let the wood dry completely before you stain or oil it and when you sand the stock, make sure you do not round the sharp edges - thats a big no-no.
There really isn't much you can mess up.
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- Pennsylvania
- Ilikewaffles_11
What do you guys use for cleaning rifles that have lots of built up corrosion and metal shavings in them? I believe I read somewhere that Windex and water does the trick?
The one .22 that we had used a while ago quite a bit at the cabin was having issues, and we found out why after dissassembling the bolt and finding it absolutely packed with metal shavings. We took most of it apart and I sprayed WD40 in everything until there were no more shavings. I was trying to run patches through it but they kept getting stuck towards the end of the barrel and after messing with it for a while I found out there was a bullet jammed inside the barrel. We removed it then ran a wire brush thing that came in the cleaner kit through it then some patches however there's still a good amount of shavings and corrosion.
The one .22 that we had used a while ago quite a bit at the cabin was having issues, and we found out why after dissassembling the bolt and finding it absolutely packed with metal shavings. We took most of it apart and I sprayed WD40 in everything until there were no more shavings. I was trying to run patches through it but they kept getting stuck towards the end of the barrel and after messing with it for a while I found out there was a bullet jammed inside the barrel. We removed it then ran a wire brush thing that came in the cleaner kit through it then some patches however there's still a good amount of shavings and corrosion.
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Windex is good using it just after shooting corrosive ammo, not sure how long though till its ineffective. It has to be ammonia based windex (I believe they mark that one with the blue coloring) though, not just any type. Normally I'll squirt it 5-10 times and plug one side with a paper towel, and the other with my thumb and tumble the gun over a few times, let it drain over the trash can and run some cloths down it with foul remover.
- 5,760
- Pennsylvania
- Ilikewaffles_11
Ahh it's been quite a while so I guess I can't do that anymore. I used quite a bit of gun bore cleaner and a bunch of patches plus that brush, and it wasn't perfect but I put it back together and I'm gonna test fire it and see if it jams again or not. I sprayed everything really well with WD40.
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- a6m5zero
Very cool! 👍
Couple of gun related topics:
Couple of gun related topics:
- I've been hearing that Oregon Governor wants to introduce new gun control bills & one of them is ban on high capacity magazines. By high capacity, I'm going to guess the idiot means normal magazines.
- After Orlando attack, I read couple of articles & they made big deal about how "AR-15" was used in the attack. I was impressed that it wasn't an assault rifle, but then this kid at work told me the other day that it wasn't an AR-15, but that Sig Sauer design rifle. I'm bit skeptical.
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- a6m5zero
I googled it after posting & yeah, very similar to AR. Same kid who told me this also said the shooter was a former security contractor. Explains the devastating damage he caused.@a6m5 If I remember correctly it was supposedly one of those Sig MCX rifles that just came out last year, but those are still basically the same as AR-15 pattern rifles. The main difference is that Sig charges $1700+ for the privilege
One of the girls at work had a little mark on the right side of her forehead the other day. She told me it was a burn from an ejected casing from her new Glock. I guess the extractors do weird things for the first few magazines. I told her that it wouldn't have happened if she had held her Glock sideways as intended. She didn't seem to think that was as funny as I did
I always wear baseball hats, but after my USP incident, I wish it was socially acceptable to shoot with full face helmet on.
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- Nicest part of hell
I made a test with my double barrel 12 gauge, I wanted to see how it performs in real life because I use it as a HD gun. Which means, shot into a wet-pack (soaked news paper tightly packed together). The results surprised me a lot, it performed differently than I expected.
Shot a 12 gauge 2 3/4 #4 buck (6.2mm or so) 27 pellets load into the pack at about 10 paces, which is about 8 meters or 10yds. Choke was a improved-cylinder. Wet pack about 7'' thick, soaked newspaper, it is said that the penetration in flesh is about 1/3 greater than in this kind of media so you add 33% to the penetration depth to get close to real life performance.
* At that distance it only spread about 3 inches
* The exit wound was about as big as the entrance, meaning the pellets did NOT spread/disperse inside the pack
* Most of the pellets in the center made it completely through the 7'' block!
* Only 1/3 of the pellets hit outside the big center column and stopped at the 6.5'' mark
* Penetration exceeded my expectations as well, 7'' of this media is equal to 9.3'' of flesh which means pellets exiting the attacker is likely, even with #4.
* The pellets only showed deformation from firing (dents from other pellets) but they did not deform from the impact into the wet pack.
* The load kicked HARD,. I ran the numbers and calculated the payload at 600 grains. @ 1400 fp's or so thats quite energetic stuff!
I thought the spread at that distance would be about 5'' or so, but it was a lot smaller, also I totally expected the pellets to disperse inside the ballistic media creating a much larger exit area, but they went straight through, entrance and exit was the same.
Thats why I do tests, they always surprise me.
Shot a 12 gauge 2 3/4 #4 buck (6.2mm or so) 27 pellets load into the pack at about 10 paces, which is about 8 meters or 10yds. Choke was a improved-cylinder. Wet pack about 7'' thick, soaked newspaper, it is said that the penetration in flesh is about 1/3 greater than in this kind of media so you add 33% to the penetration depth to get close to real life performance.
* At that distance it only spread about 3 inches
* The exit wound was about as big as the entrance, meaning the pellets did NOT spread/disperse inside the pack
* Most of the pellets in the center made it completely through the 7'' block!
* Only 1/3 of the pellets hit outside the big center column and stopped at the 6.5'' mark
* Penetration exceeded my expectations as well, 7'' of this media is equal to 9.3'' of flesh which means pellets exiting the attacker is likely, even with #4.
* The pellets only showed deformation from firing (dents from other pellets) but they did not deform from the impact into the wet pack.
* The load kicked HARD,. I ran the numbers and calculated the payload at 600 grains. @ 1400 fp's or so thats quite energetic stuff!
I thought the spread at that distance would be about 5'' or so, but it was a lot smaller, also I totally expected the pellets to disperse inside the ballistic media creating a much larger exit area, but they went straight through, entrance and exit was the same.
Thats why I do tests, they always surprise me.
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- a6m5zero
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- Ventura, California
Very cool! 👍
Couple of gun related topics:
That's all. I hope our legislators are smarter than our Governor. Gun control bills consistently fail in stopping criminals, but the socialist like our Governor doesn't feel like she's doing her job if she isn't taxing us heavily & throwing the money away. I hope we don't become California II, but we will if she stays a governor.
- I've been hearing that Oregon Governor wants to introduce new gun control bills & one of them is ban on high capacity magazines. By high capacity, I'm going to guess the idiot means normal magazines.
- After Orlando attack, I read couple of articles & they made big deal about how "AR-15" was used in the attack. I was impressed that it wasn't an assault rifle, but then this kid at work told me the other day that it wasn't an AR-15, but that Sig Sauer design rifle. I'm bit skeptical.
California did the high capacity magazine ban a years ago but you could still buy the parts separately for said magazines and even have them shipped to your door because when disassembled, it's not an actual magazine. You could put them together yourself and have them because as long as they weren't date marked or marked Law Enforcement Only (You could legally buy hi caps and they would be grandfathered if purchased before 1/1/2000). Most any magazine is not date marked or LEO marked. If they pass something like that, depending on the actual wording of the proposed legislation, it isn't really enforceable short of an outright ban. Most legislation will grandfather existing magazines and they can't prove when they were purchased unless dated. This was a massive loophole in CA and would likely be the same sort of situation in Oregon.
California just passed legislation last month that was signed by the Governor that makes all hi capacity magazines (anything over 10) illegal even if legally purchased and we are to dispose of them or sell them to people out of state. BUT, the actual wording on the law says that a first time offense is a citation and a fine not to exceed $100-$150. Second offense is not to exceed $300 and Third offense not to exceed $500 etc. So not an actual crime punishable by jail, Misdemeanor or Felony or anything. So I don't see many complying with it. If and when the bill gets introduced in Oregon, read the words on it carefully but my guess is you'll be either grandfathered and the whole deal will be unenforceable. So not much to worry about in most cases.
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- OREGON
- a6m5zero
See, this is what I'm afraid of.
I used to believe in sensible gun control, but as soon as I was familiar with this debate I realized that this is a battle of winning an inch at a time. They will tell you that they just want this one inch. Truth is, they fully intend to take it all, eventually. Now I oppose any gun control if it made sense to me 100%, because this is how anti-gun people fight.
Anywho, back on topic. Initially, the Governor wants to ban just the new sale of "high-capacity" magazines(sarcasm in bold). I better start picking up some of these magazines now, and I'm sure I'm little late to the party in Oregon.
On paying attention to the language of these bills, I don't want to violate any rules, or regulations. Since I'm a foreign national, who knows what the penalty might be for me. If they ship me back to Japan, yeah, food & everything else would be an upgrade(
), but @#*% me if I'm going to collecting airsoft!
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